are there any fish you are not allowed to shoot?
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Topic: are there any fish you are not allowed to shoot?
Posted By: jr.spero
Subject: are there any fish you are not allowed to shoot?
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 9:41pm
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are there any fish not allowed to be shot? and does any1 know of any good spots around tauranga? ------------- "is it dead?" |
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Posted By: Diver Dan
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 9:46pm
| The only fish you are not allowed to spear are spotted black groper and queensand groper. That said, we don't tend to spear marblefish, kelpfish, black angelfish, sharks, rays, most of the wrasses, drummer etc. There are plenty of good eating fish around. Butterfish are OK to eat and really good to practice on. Take what you can eat, leave the rest for next time. |
Posted By: jr.spero
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 10:00pm
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what about poisenes fish to eat? ------------- "is it dead?" |
Posted By: Mullins
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 10:19pm
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Can't shoot great whites either - so just stick to bronzies and the odd mako if you're looking for a thrill. Are QGs actually protected over here DD? I thought they were generally understood to be off the menu but not formally protected as they aren't a local species. So if you don't mind the intense disapproval of, well, everybody... fire away!
Poisonous? Boxfish probably wouldn't be very good for you. Can't think of any others. You'd need a pretty strong constitution to stomach a marblefish though.
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Posted By: TheSnapperWhisperer
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 10:22pm
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Careful with electric rays, especially if you have a pacemaker. I don't shoot Great Whites any more because I'm worried about my mercury levels.
Whales are not really allowed, but Herby uses them as burley at Ti Point.
A friend got quite sick eating John Dory livers once.
Most large snapper living in shallow water also have very very high mercury issues due to runoff and because they live until older, and should be left completely unmollested. You shoudld not approach them, but report them to me and I will see that they are removed from the food chain responsibly. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/TheSnapperWhisperer |
Posted By: ThomasW
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 10:27pm
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My dad always bugs me to shot more marblefish. He really likes them.
Where is the best place to iki a great white? |
Posted By: Mullins
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 10:30pm
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Your dad has my total respect!
I think you're supposed to bite them between the eyes. Gotta make sure you get in first though...
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Posted By: oldfela
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 10:32pm
| on the inside of the mouth |
Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 10:34pm
Uh hu, that's no go teritory Mili.
If you happen to catch or harpoon one, it must be released back into the wild "un-harmed".
If you really want to test one though, a spike in or around the gonad area should get a bit of attention.
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Militaris wrote:Posted By: Omebic
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 10:34pm
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Sounds like you're after a Fugu. If you get one eat the liver sashimi style. |
Posted By: sooshee
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 11:15pm
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If you eat an incorrectly prepared Fugu, you will be Fubar.
Uncle, the gonads are a bit far away to reach when the GW has you firmly in its mouth. I always thought the eyes would be nice soft spots to punch an iki through.
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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2007 at 11:30pm
That's the point sooshee, you are not allowed to damage the shark so a bit of a tickle is where it's at
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Posted By: Rusky
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2007 at 8:14am
| I heard that Sunfish are poisonous? Any one know if this is true? |
Posted By: ThomasW
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2007 at 12:32pm
I am certain I could find same third world country which still allows the killing of them. |
Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2007 at 12:56pm
I'm sure you could Mili but then that would invalidate the original question.
jr.spero was asking about rules & the third world countries don't usually have any
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Posted By: Sea Wolf
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2007 at 7:04pm
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Sun fish are fine as far as I know. That said I don't exactly target them! I believe they are sometimes caught as a by catch by the commercial guys. |
Posted By: yellowfin hunter
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2007 at 7:20pm
| hay guys dont be forgeting turtels , thay taste great and make every one happy wen ya gut em at a moter camp, got to plase your shots tho , |
Posted By: ThomasW
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2007 at 7:41pm
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Back onto the topic of spearing great whites...
I was thinking, would a bigger gun like a RobAllen 120 or 140 be better due to more power to get through the tough skin and thick meat and more range to avoid the bitey bits. or would a smaller more maneuverable gun like my Sporasub viper 90 be better due to the extra manoeuvrability. For example if the shark is holding me in its mouth, it might be possible to position the gun in such a way that I could get a direct shot into the brain.... But then, if I was in the sharks mouth, it is probably best to try and bite it inside the mouth for a quick kill and no time would be wasted reloading the gun. |
Posted By: campbellc
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2007 at 7:59pm
| I would probably use a slip tip aswell just for some better holding power and a double wrap just so theres enough range . Militaris your ra would be over kill mate just use a pro dive provider should do the trick nicely |
Posted By: yellowfin hunter
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2007 at 7:59pm
you could try with a hawian sling ,,pro dive made a real good one called a white pointer , they have come down in price now militaris  mine cost me 100 bucks back in the day  you can have a lend if ya want ,, make sure ya put that pronger in the tail tho so ya get a bit of a fight out of it , ya cant be waisting an opp to shoot a ride like that can ya  whats your personal size limit on this fish 1000lbs min would be mine 
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Posted By: Omebic
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2007 at 8:06pm
LOL - that made me laugh!
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Posted By: Snoop
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2007 at 8:17pm
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I thought the best carbon fibre fins on the market + extreme leg work + the nearest available rocky outcrop/dive boat followed + rescue chopper would be the most feasible action plan? ------------- Axemen Spearfishing... "Putting the crap back into elite" www.axemenspearfishing.co.nz |
Posted By: Snoop
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2007 at 8:18pm
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Suppose we could ask Herby how he treated his grey girlfriend at Whananaki last summer? ------------- Axemen Spearfishing... "Putting the crap back into elite" www.axemenspearfishing.co.nz |
Posted By: MattyJ
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2007 at 10:47pm
| Red Moki are a no no, at least in Wellington anyway. I've heard they live really long, so if you shoot one it could be 40 years old.....and they are easy picking if you were to shoot them so there would soon be none left. There was a really good thread on this some months ago, pity the forum isn't managed better....(hint hint if anyone is reading!) |
Posted By: S.O.T
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2007 at 11:07pm
| Matty you back?! Post a thread on the trip bro... Or if you are really feeling up to it come into work tomorrow and tell me all about it - My sorry butt will be there. |
Posted By: jr.spero
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 5:26pm
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you guys wern't much help, but thanks to those hu were ------------- "is it dead?" |
Posted By: Snoop
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 5:51pm
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Most spearos do not target Red Moki as mentioned they are slow growing. When you are starting out most target butterfish, blue moki, koheru, porae and kahawai along with crays. As you go along and learn over time (there is no substitute for time in the water) you will be more comfortable at targeting kingfish, snapper and weedline diving for John Dory, Terakihi, Boarfish, Blue & Pink Mao Mao etc. Have a look at this site for starters. http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/Recreational/default.htm - http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/Recreational/default.htm
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Posted By: snapslayer
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 6:44pm
| go to the wildblue website and click on fish. they've got it pretty much covered |
Posted By: MurrayC
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 9:52pm
Wasn't that by the old squid trick? you know - confuse it with a big brown stain in the water?  |
Posted By: easytiger
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 11:13am
| moray eels are the real challenge |
Posted By: Mullins
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 11:51am
| How about Nick Sanderson's trick of catching elephant fish with his bare hands? That was cool... |