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Topic: Guns on boats
Posted By: Carbine
Subject: Guns on boats
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 12:44am
is it true that your allowed guns on boats outside the harbour limits?



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Posted By: phantomdeviant
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 5:37am
Don't know if its true but if thats the case, wouldn't you have to have them onboard whilst travelling to outside harbour limits?

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Posted By: Donald Duck
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 5:45am
You have to have a Firearms Licence.
Boats, cars, what's the difference?
As always, you must have a lawful purpose for carrying a firearm... we don't get too many pirates in these waters and there ain't bugger all out there that isn't protected from being shot at.
I have more respect for my firearms than to take them to sea - you'd want to give them a thorough clean afterward.


Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 8:00am
Dont see any issue with it.  Quite often have wished I had a 12 Guage on board.  :)

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Posted By: crowbar
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 8:07am
Back of Noisies found some shotgun orange skits used for target shooting while diving.
Presume someone had a day practicing there shooting


Posted By: corosanta
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 9:42am
If you can hang on for a day or two, I'll ask Mr T. Iti about it. He should know.

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Posted By: campbellc
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 9:44am
Why would you want a gun onboard? Just asking.


Posted By: The Gremlin
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 10:15am
To shot those *****s that come and drop their pick on top of you when you are fishing.

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Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 10:29am
Wonder if Archery Equipment would be under the same classification, i wouldn't expect so but travelling with it may get up some coppers noses, i ask because i have just put an order down for a fishing kit to attach to the bow with some big knarly carbon arrows. The plan is to get some kingies teased up behind one boat while i take the shot from another, should be fun :D

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Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 10:37am
just for abit of fun can also see a purpose for it , got a hand thrower for clays aswell


Posted By: The Gremlin
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 10:38am
I'm ask the sister in law she works on the Police launch tonight what the rule is.

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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 3:07pm
Originally posted by loryda loryda wrote:

Wonder if Archery Equipment would be under the same classification, i wouldn't expect so but travelling with it may get up some coppers noses, i ask because i have just put an order down for a fishing kit to attach to the bow with some big knarly carbon arrows. The plan is to get some kingies teased up behind one boat while i take the shot from another, should be fun :D
 
come to the fnet week at houhora and I have a perfect spot for you to get towed around a harbour by a kingWink


Posted By: Goneburger
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 8:51pm
Think Beagle is on the money - basically you need to have a Firearms Licence, then carry weapon safely on board i.e. unloaded, ammo seperate and weapon essentially disabled. However once on open sea and away from city limits, you could use it - however not to endanger others or cause a nuisance to the public. Some guy's carry guns on boats to fish, then go ashore in remote areas to hunt deer or pigs, goats etc, common around Sth Island areas etc, but also corromandel in patches etc. Personally I wouldn't bother unless doing something like that i.e. a fishing/hunting trip combined. You''ll also notice that in duck season heaps of guy's are in boats on the salt hunting ducks with shotty's but you can't travel over 5 knots in a boat with a loaded weapon.


Posted By: livin4fish
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 8:59pm
You boys need to read the history of TGFC. The commercial fisherman in the 20's and 30's out at Mayor where catching these big fish with beaks on their long lines and the story says they got a rifle out and waited for one to jump and shot it. Now thats one way to get a marlin!

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Posted By: drocard
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 9:00pm
We had a launch on Lake Taupo a few years ago,had a clay bird thrower on the cabin top.great fun on the way to the Western  Bays,lots pf fun and no law broken.



Posted By: part-timer
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 10:43pm
My grandad used to have a .22  on board to shoot the sharks they caught... one story was told that they got a big shark to the boat one day..  the shot went staight through the head....  AND  the steel trace....  the shark sank away Clap  well.. it would have been 30 - 40 years ago...
 
that is not a help to the current situation..  just a story Ha ha
 
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Posted By: The Gremlin
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 8:45am
Spoke to the siss in law and she said that there is no problems with guns on boats as long as what (The Beagle) said is adhered to.

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Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 8:56am
frankly I see no reason whatsoever for me to have a gun on board. Never, no way in hell, would I have one on my boatThumbs%20Down
 
Would Sir Peter Blake still be alive if he had not grabbed his gun? Who knows but I think he would be.
 
When the adrenalin hits the fan is not the cleverest time to grab a gun in any circumstance. Not a greenie at all but have reasons aplenty to hate GunsDisapprove


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Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 8:59am
I have often thought I would like my .22 on board when those brown birds start hanging around the boat and pissing me off

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Posted By: The Gremlin
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 9:02am
I'm with you Boulder. Don't see the need. Can only be trouble after a few beers.

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Posted By: *stu*
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 11:25am
You can nail those birds with the gaff handle when they get too close anyway bushpig.


Posted By: campbellc
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 11:37am

Why use the handel when theres a sharp hook on the other end?LOL



Posted By: Dagwood
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 12:02pm
Casting my mind back a couple of decades, I can remember being on board a boat with a clay launcher. We even had a bit of a shoot in Riko Riko cave at the Knights.

Bit of a challenge as you could only see them when they dropped past the light coming from the entrance and the noise was  pretty impressive..



Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 1:51pm

Shot a few clays from a boat on lake Taupo, great fun. Hardly ever carry one on my boat, just sometimes. But golden rule of never mix alcohol and guns - so the guns are aboard a lot Big%20smile

Hard one to call with Peter Blake...maybe if the second round hadn't jammed he could've continued his self defence properly, maybe. Dam shame, he was a great man.


Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 7:43pm
Yeah, dont particularly think people would be dumb enough to mix the two, although ive been proved wrong by peoples stupidity in the past.
 
Not for a self defence thing either, thats what the left over burlys about and lets be honest, as long as Iti aint on the water that kinda thing is abit outlandish for NZ.. perhaps if this were Texas..
 
As for Blake, dont think ill find any Pirates in the Gulf..


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Posted By: bazza
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 7:58pm
Hey
 
I guy was relating his experience re taking his shotgun to Gt. Barrier.
 
He was hoping to do some duck shooting & could not believe his luck when walking up the beach with his gear, a small group of ducks were approaching in his direction.
 
He dropped his gear, loaded his shotgun, fired & was amazed, as not being known as a particularly good marksman, to see three of them fall from the sky.
 
As he was "proudly" gathering them up & putting them in his belt, he thought they looked a bit smaller than normal.
 
At the same time a ranger came running to the scene & he only then discovered that he had just wiped out a significant % of a protected species, under threat of extinction.
 
The subsequent court appearance proved to be both unpleasant & expensive.


Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 8:45pm
Originally posted by Marlin King Marlin King wrote:

I'm with you Boulder. Don't see the need. Can only be trouble after a few beers.


Im 22 have worked for 4 years in firearm sales, drink probably 5-6 bottles of beer a month, dont do drugs and take my firearms lic and rifle saftey seriously, i think im the only guy out of all my mate without any police conviction at all - only 2 speeding tickets so getting into rambo mode when someone lifts my cray pot or sum crap is not an option


Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 9:30pm
Originally posted by Carbine Carbine wrote:

Originally posted by Marlin King Marlin King wrote:

I'm with you Boulder. Don't see the need. Can only be trouble after a few beers.


Im 22 have worked for 4 years in firearm sales, drink probably 5-6 bottles of beer a month, dont do drugs and take my firearms lic and rifle saftey seriously, i think im the only guy out of all my mate without any police conviction at all - only 2 speeding tickets so getting into rambo mode when someone lifts my cray pot or sum crap is not an option
 
on ya mate, have carried a firearm on board over the years, no longer do any more, grandparents always had firearms on board and were used to shoot goats off miner head at the barrier, safe as house in the right hands, seems you have the old head screwed on mate.


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Posted By: part-timer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 10:30pm
anyone got, or used a "bang stick"?


Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 11:32pm
from what i know a bang stick is counted as a firearm and i think is illegal - i could see a use for one, still use in america for land based shark and offshore shark fishing believe u can get spear for spearguns with a det head (pistol round that goes off on contact with fish}


Posted By: part-timer
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2007 at 10:07pm

ok...I was thinking a bang stick might be handy when broardy drifting..in case the makos attack your fish at the boat...

I see some charters and comm guys use small explosive charges ( basicly fire crackers ) and chuck them over as the broady gets closer to the boat to scare the makos..
 
They would need a licence for those wouldnt they??
 


Posted By: Wefaknis
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2007 at 10:46pm
Ive tried shooting from a boat.... it was hard, very hard....well it supose I hit the water...
 
Cheers Wefaknis


Posted By: yellowfin hunter
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2007 at 11:03pm
bows and arows are not illegal at all loyda  there classed as a wepon of war , the coon next door shot my cat wen i was around 15 i then put an arow into his sky dish LOL the cops turnd up and could do notheing ,, eney body can by and have a bow ,, no age no restrictions Thumbs%20Up bow fishing is getting big now in nz aswell , man takes big blue with bow Disapprove would be cool at the way station , prob eseyer to get 1 off the rocks that way 2


Posted By: tobez
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2007 at 4:23am
tuna bombs are where its at...lots of fun....if you needed a licence for it then...well ..um...oops...wasnt me occifa

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