Stella + what?
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Printed Date: 10 Jun 2026 at 9:44pm
Topic: Stella + what?
Posted By: Espresso
Subject: Stella + what?
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 2:16pm
Now that the SP bug has finally infected me. My immunity was high due to lack of technique thus lack of fish....but now, I little technique and  . Anyway - my Stella2500 is now the pick of the bunch for a crack at a few Snapper Anzac Day.
My question - I was thinking of getting another Stella, just 'cos it's so awesome and fun to use..I was thinking of going even lighter, the 2500 handles the 60cm Snaps piece of cake on 4kg braid, especially since I drifting over sand mainly, therefore a good fight but without bustoffs on rocks. Thus the 1000 seems a good choice for 3kg braid? Also what would be the ultimate in rods to use with it? The Shimano I have is outstanding. Is there any advantage to getting a Custom rod made, or in fact could this be a disadvantage in this case?
I do have a Trinidad12 with 4kg braid on which I will try out tomorrow, but being an overhead reel it'll be interesting to note the differences.....?
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 2:45pm
I love spending other peoples money... The http://www.shimanofish.com.au/catalog/fish/products/group_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302050806&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181655&bmUID=1177381489571 - T-Curve Flight 702 Spin would match up real nice on a Stella in my opinion. Although i haven't seen these available in NZ, I have used one coupled with a Twinpower 4000 recently that I borrowed from a couple of Aussie lads we had over here ...was an awesome bits of kit and knocked over kings to 20kg!....I am sure one of the local dealers could get one in if you asked nicely? I'm thinking about ordering one of the spiral wrapped T-Curve Flights (66BC) that I thought I'd match up with a Shimano Calais DC or maybe a Calcutta TE DC in the near future. **BLING BLING*** ..some weirdos collect used stamps!!  |
Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 3:05pm
**BLING BLING***
Eyes open and looking 
Kezz how do these compare to the Ian Miller we both have now and should I respond to the tingle I am getting in my back pocket?????????????????? ------------- http://www.boulderguiding.co.nz">  http://www.boulderguiding.co.nz">www.boulderguiding.co.nz |
Posted By: KeenAs
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 3:08pm
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Koro. . . ring the personalised plates place and book yourself the plate
TKLHOE
nice kit
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Posted By: Accident Prone
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 3:11pm
hahahaha its available Boulder... |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 3:19pm
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Boulder me ol' Freezer! The T-Curve Flight Spin rod was a dream to use....nicely balanced, but thought it was a tad on the light side for the TP4000 with 7.5kg braid.....would like to have used it in anger with a 2500 sized reel and 5kg. The spiral wrapped T-Curve Flight coupled with a Calcutta TE was just awesome and really opened up a whole bunch more TAS opportunities ....Lee had 8kg braid on his "bait caster" SP rig i think and it sung the sweetest song! Initially I thought about converting my TLD5 to a SP reel, but since decided they just don't have the retrieve for deep reef prospecting or for achieving kingfish tempting speeds!! The Ian Miller T-Curve is soooo suited the the Twin Power 4000 that it wouldn't be fair to try and compare "apples with peaches" mmmmmm......motorbike riding peaches! |
Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 5:20pm
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My current Stella2500 is matched with a Shimano Backbone series 7'6" Graphite 3-5kg 2 piece rod. It is veeerrrry nice. Love the cork grips and it's so light.
Nothing wrong with quality Maxi-bling, or peaches on my motorbike
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Posted By: aharvnz
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 5:56pm
very nice Fishslayer, I have one of those in my garage. the bike that is.  |
Posted By: phantomdeviant
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 6:05pm
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Expresso I use my calcutta 400b spooled up with 4kg braid and I love it. Great casting, your more in contact with your sp when it's free spooling down so it's easier to feel hits on the drop and react to them. Even using light 1/4 oz jig heads the braid runs off freely. And you can use it to "strayline" SP's with by keeping it in freespool whilst at anchor. I'm currently experimenting with this and having great results. I'd imagine your Trini would be very similar and would recommend you give it a try. Would like to hear what you think ------------- Skirt Pulla |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 8:25pm
| If you want to go real light with the braid grant you may need to be careful with the rod you choose due to the new single foot guides catching the braid during casting.ive sent ya a pm today explaining all.Doesnt seem to happen with the 6pd plus braid. |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 8:37pm
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What about snagging on the slightly (but not much) older fuji lowrider guides is it the same sort of problem do you know Wayne ? A wee bit more weight in the low riders that those new wizz bang single foots but its marginal surely.....isn't it ???? 
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 9:28pm
| Been working hard to sort this out moocha, and the only thing that works is a double foot fuji concept as the 1st guide.Even going to change the one on the ian miller t curve.This doesnt happen with the heavier braids.Ive had a bit more luck when i top shot 6 mtrs of 5 pd fluoro carbon as a leader but on the weekend it snagged on the third guide during a cast and snapped loosing 50 mtrs of braid...its gettin to the stage i dont use it as often as i want too. caught a 8 kg king on 1 pd last weekend on the sand casting around a huge tree off te kaha in 50 mtrs of water .Also kahawai to 2.6 kgs off the beach. but you get sick of tying nots real quick with 1 pd braid ... |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 9:35pm
Sounds bloody frustrating Wayne.. but your getting good results though 8kg Kingie on 1LB shyte nice one. I get sick of tying and re tying knots with 6lb (esp when family members snag it and run over it  ) so I can imagine how bad 1lb is. What braid are you using ? |
Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2007 at 9:48pm
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[QUOTE=of2fsh] caught a 8 kg king on 1 pd last weekend on the sand casting around a huge tree off te kaha in 50 mtrs of water .QUOTE]
Wow, tell us more of2fsh.
That is a pretty special achievement.
Was that 1 pd braid or 1pd leader?
Whatever, I salute you
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Posted By: Peter da Squid
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2007 at 8:48am
thats a great catch wayne, thats sweet brother
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2007 at 9:14am
| Its berkley 1pd clear fireline and breaks well above 1pd im guessing it breaks at 3kgs,use 5 0r 7pd fluoro carbon leader.The kingi was a real buzz with a school of 10 or so following it to the boat each time (viz at T K was 60 ft under water and 30 ft out of the boat )The kingi was easy as we followed it with the boat keeping the line strait up and down.The kahawai destroyed the lot, on one fish i had 130 mtrs of braid out and got busted.Got to the stage were i tied the jig head strait to the braid and the kings and kahawai still hit with avengence.used stormbringers anchovie rubbers and they out performed the gulp hands down.Even better than the live anchovies we caught.Cant post any pics as my house was robbed last friday and we lost alot of stuff inc camera with all the photos of the marlin we caught at nth cape at easter .SO went to TK camera less and had the best weekend diving weve ever had..even caught a big boar...Changed my 1pd rig to a Twin power 2500 on a shimano Blue water t curve 1 to 3 kg rod and berkley braid.This has caught a 5.1 kg snapper,2.6kg kahawai and a 8 kg kingi so im pretty shure its the beez neez...The mongrels didnt get any of my tackle or rods etc in the robbery (didnt go into garage ),lucky as i just brought 2 blackmajic reels and the twin power recently..... |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2007 at 2:26pm
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Mongrels ... I like the sound of that bloody impressive Wayne sounds like a premo fight 
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 3:49pm
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Hi Expresso, Have a word with Tiny Coe from Top Catch Bait and Tackle Clevedon, his rods (Synit) featured on Geoff Thomas's Show last week, part two of that show is on Saturday TV3 at 5.00pm. He has designed this rod with the Kiwi Fisho in mind and would be a perfect match for your Stella. The rods aren't cheap, just great to fish with, I use one and I have tried all the off the shelf brands. Tiny's contact details are 021 330 508. If that's not what you are looking for try a Shimano Starlo Stix 5-8kg 2pc or a Shimano Raider if you can find one, both of these will match your Stella. The T-Curve is a nice rod but if yopu intend to do a lot of casting you better have arms like Poppeye as the weigh a ton for a softbait rod, a Synit rod is just under 200gms.
Cheerz
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Posted By: phantomdeviant
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 5:20pm
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Expresso did you end up trying out your Trini 12 with the SP's the other day? If so what did you think? ------------- Skirt Pulla |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 5:59pm
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Men in black
My T Curve is lighter than the starlo stix and the raider rod.
A stella 1000 is what espresso,s buying and would be a bit small for a 6 to 8kg rod.May be a 1 to 3kg or a 2 to 4kg rod would be suitable.
Totally my opinion of course but a light rod (1 to 3kg )matched with the stella 1000 and light braid would be the shizzle... ive found that the lighter you go the less important lots of drag is and the more important smooth
drag is....
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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 6:02pm
| Is the wee fulla Twinpower available yet ? all the bells and whistles and more than a few hundy cheaper as well....smooth as silk and drag to burn. |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 6:06pm
Not shure moocha ,you will no as ill list lots more stuff on trade me to buy one... ...bloody good drags on the twin power,good fun
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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 6:29pm
For sure mate I would love a wee TP2500...maybe after the luna 
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 7:23pm
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Hopefully all falls into place and we get out for a fish when your up here, you can have a fish with the twin power 2500 and the T Curve.
May be some rat kings still swiming around flat rock to tussel with
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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 7:47pm
Sounds bloody good mate I think my TP4000 might accidently fall into my bag as well I hate to leave her home alone...mmmmmmmm my precious 
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 8:18pm
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Nice...got to look after the kids after all ....little tp4000 |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 9:08am
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Twin Powers are great... also worth a look if small and powerful is required is the new Abu Garcia Cardinal 802, weren't much of an Abu spinning reel fan until I tried this puppy, it has x4 carbon matirix drag washers, and a twin bearing arrangement under the spool. All the grunt the TP has at around $180 a pop.
Cheerz GG
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 8:48pm
| Sorry mate done me dash with the Abu reels,Twin powers are hard to beat and the stella even harder.In my opinion the twin power is pure quality that will last a life time.But were all different after all and have our favourites |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 9:15pm
mmmmmmmmmmm my precious  gotta love the Twin powers  |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 9:25pm
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Hi of2fsh, I hear what you're saying with the Abu's having killed 3 T Alloys and a 174 in the past 6 months, not through neglect or abuse, just hard fishing. No question on the pedigree of the Twin Power, own and fish an FB4000 Twin Power myself, also use the new Abu 804, a whole different beast to anything Abu have produced in the past and they needed to be. The 800's don't have the pro finish of the TP, but they do represent good value.
Anyone else tried the new Abu 800's,
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 9:34pm
| Yep T alloys are disprins allright,thats why i brought a symetre and a twin power later on. They are good reels with a spare spool as well(ON THE SYMETRE).Wont be trying another abu in the near future,once you find a reel that you like you dont often change back to a brand thats let ya down ...... |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 9:37pm
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I got a spare spool with my TP4000 loaded the byatch up with 6lb fireline Other one 8kg Rapala great stuff that as well
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 9:50pm
| Did it come with a spare spool moocha ??????mine was $60 bucks for the TP2500....FEEL RIPPED......... |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 9:57pm
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yeah mate it did,got her from Hunting & fishing
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Posted By: ThomasW
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 10:06pm
Twinpowers are easy to beat. Try a Daiwa Certate  .
Certates are acutely more expensive then twinpowers and do not come with a spare spool but why should something like that matter. Stellas are easier, have a little play with a dawia Steez or a Saltiga . I would give my computer away for one of these reels.
I have been reading posts in a few other forums today. One Australia the other is based in the US and stellas have been having quite a hard time. Quite a few people were unhappy with them. Mainly with the smaller size ones. I have been wondering lately, is it just me or do the high end daiwa reels have little support in New Zealand compared with Shimano offerings. Are they even domestically available? I can not remember seeing any. |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 10:16pm
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Well seeing the fish Hauled in by them I would just say they are moaning aussies and yanks. They need to check out the Sp forum cause the TP's slay them. I mean FFS the skys the limit on what you can spend TP is cheaper in NZ dollars than all of those otheres Mili .....
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Posted By: Peter da Squid
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 1:54am
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they all catch fish and sooner than later they all go bang! im about to thrash a nice sustain ------------- Good for Nuthin |
Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 7:48am
| What size Sustain do you have, Squiddy? |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 8:38am
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Hi Pete,
I agree, -Holden-Ford-Holden-Ford-Holden-Ford, if it works for you stick with it, there's not a lot between the top reels, all manufactures know this, Tiny and I don't align ourselves to any one brand of reel they all have their strengths and weaknesses, have a look in either of our fishing reel bags they have a bit of everything.
Go Soft and Go Hard
Cheerz GG
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Posted By: SeaI
Date Posted: 08 May 2007 at 11:56am
| MIB wherre would one purchase the new abu 800 range, Aucks? |
Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 6:05pm
| i have stellas twin powers and the abu 804 cardinals its personal choice.all are good products. |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 6:20pm
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Cod, I would go along with that logic, how would you rate them value for money. Stella FB4000 @$599.00 or the Twin Power @ $399.00 or the ABU 804 @$189.00, and I'll through one more in the VS Okuma 40 @$279.00
We run all the above reels on our setups and have no allience or preference to any of the brands (Not sponsored.... yet... any takers) , we look for what is needed in a reel to do the job at the best price, interested to see just what others find value for money, no Ford vs Holden, purely value for money.
I will post my unbiased findings later. but they are all quality reels
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 9:18pm
| Based purely on performance for the $ spent it would be the symetre 4000 for me,it does every thing the top of the line reels do.May be a drag up grade to make it silky smooth is all it needs |
Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 10:26pm
| i think stellas are one for performance.price wise twinpowers are very good value.i sell them and sell lots of them.the cardinal is been good so far cant fault it at all.i havent had any problems with any of the above products.the symetre reels also are very good value.sold alot of these when i had the ian miller raider rods. |
Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 10:54pm
| Stella's are the best you can buy, no question, unless the expensive van staal? type ones are your go, not my cup of tea,ugly looking!! and as the saying goes, you get what you pay for, blah blah. One Stella will outlast any other brand of cheaper reel, by a long long way, 1000 for a Stella, say 250-300 for the others, but you will have to replace or repair them long after the Stella still going, just top quality components in them and not found in the other ones, that's why theres a cost difference, eh.. very pricey to start out, but cheaper in the long run, and each and every time you use them, a pleasure and quality you can feel, thats how I see it... |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 10:59pm
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or van staal...
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Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 7:31am
| with shimanos parts are easy too get. |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 9:46am
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of2fsh,
Have done 2 Symetre drags they are the same setup as the Sedona's
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Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 1:27pm
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My mates just got a Van Staal and the dumbass got the one without the bail arm... god knows what he's gonna do with it now ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: shimma
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 2:26pm
| That's a very expensive hand spool!!! |
Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 3:13pm
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Ken Oath it is! It's really weird, I guess there are people that don't need a bail arm but I think I'd find it really really hard to use.
It came in a lovely felt lined wooden box tho, eww ahhh ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 11 May 2007 at 10:26pm
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Cant really justify $60 for drag washers GG, the standard ones are sweet for the 1 to 4pd braid i use.The twin power also has a good drag as standard for what i use them for...
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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 11 May 2007 at 10:48pm
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Yeah, but I'll still have a wee peak at the boat show I have to say...toys toys toys ............Roll on Monday
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