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I know some people winch their boat onto the trailer with a cordless drill. Ive tried usng my Ryobi 18v drill, and it cant do it. Torque is 50nm. My boat is relatively light, a Figlass Firestar thats 5.4m long. 

Anyone with experience please advise.
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I use a Makita 18v on the slow speed and use the high ratio side of the winch.
My boat is a Seaforce 530 and it works great. When the boat gets near the end the drill does slow down but no problems.
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You can buy a lectric trailer winch for 220 bucks ...... why would you ruin a $400+ drill trying to bodgy it ?Smile
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DIY - thanks, which model Makita - how much torque?
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I've been using a 18V Milwaukee drill  pull a 7.5m Southern Sports all the way ( ie  first roller at the end of the trailer flush with the water and been doing it for the last 5 years or so. Those drills claim 130 Nm from memory.
The trailer came with a  10:1 manual winch that I couldn't easily turn by  the winch handle so replaced that with  a different manual winch with a low gear of 15:1.  I use  1: 1 to manually start and get the bow a metre or so up the trailer and then use the battery drill.
Definitely needs the long clamp on handle that clamps around the housing to counteract  the torque.....pushing down on that handle quite hard but the boat comes up fast......maybe 45 sec or so.
I like the simplicity and the fact that if anything goes wrong , I still have the manual winch   which I know works fine but just hard work.
I have no faith in a $200 winch.  A priced a Superwinch back at the time I decided to go with the battery drill and it was more like $1600 or $1700 and on top of that was heavy duty wiring back to the vehicle battery or the cost of a second battery mounted on the trailer , so not exactly cheap.
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Didnt " steps" post about using drill somewhere?
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I have a7.2m fibreglass boat and use one all the time. I have Dewalt 996 (superceeded by the dcd999). Rips it up using the 5:1 no problem. And I do mean rips it up. Way quicker than my mate with his 12V 4wd winch. Probably 5 times quicker and I'm not joking. The lower end drills won't do it or will only do it on the high ratio. Whichever brand of drill you use, make sure it's the most powerful one they do.

Highly recommend if you use the right drill.
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My drill is a Makita BHP 454, not sure how much torque it has but I’m a tradie so already had the drill.
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I have 2 elec winches mounted on my trailers - both around $200.
5.3m tinnie. One gets hauled off the beach on to the trailer - so has to lift up and on to the trailer. The other, depending on the tide has to haul my boat up a steep slope on to the trailer - steeper than any boat ramp I have seen. The first one, I have had for about 6 yrs now. No issues. The 2nd one I just fitted this yr. It did fail - turns out one end of the drive bit turns in a bush and the high load chewed the bush out. I fitted a couple of cheap bearings in place of the bush. Working fine.
I am surprised the drills are strong enough - but given the right gearing and grunty drill, it is obviously do-able.  There is an advantage , as stated - with the drill in that if it fails you still have the manual winch. However the 2nd boat which I haul up a steep slope was an absolute pig at times - I couldn't do it in a single go. Too steep, too old.  This $200 winch does it. And the remote function on both winches is worth its weight in gold. I have wired them to the vehicle battery - simple plug in job when the trailer couples. For $200, I would not be without them.
I pulled the 2nd one apart when it failed, looking for the cause. It is strongly constructed. The gears are taking a big load and no issue. Just a bush chewed out. The gear end has a solid bearing. The small bearings I used to replace the bush seem to be working fine.
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Originally posted by Pcj Pcj wrote:

Didnt " steps" post about using drill somewhere?

Yes he did. I would go with the current advice.
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Mate uses cordless drill to wind his 6.7 Surtees and so easy. Pretty to watch. By hand it's a battle. 
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Any more words of wisdom?
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The problem is the drill as others have said, not grunty enough. My makita has 150nm.

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From what I can understand it’s all about the winch ratio, yes you can use a super grunty drill but I’ve seen some guys at the ramp using a grunty drill where the boat comes on way to fast and I wouldn’t want to get any hands of arms in the way.

Not a new idea the yanks have been doing it for years, check out the vids on YouTube.

This is a interesting read

https://community.deckee.com/topic/92269-boat-trailer-winch-gear-reducer-for-use-with-cordless-electric-drill/
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Make sure you have a grunty drill. Go on, you need an excuse to get one anyways. You won't regret it.

Oh and be prepared for general admiration, most times you load the boat as the people next to you watch in awe at how easy loading you boat is.
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Ok. Im thinking of using a dewalt drill thats got 90nM torque. Should that be enough, for a 5.4m boat?
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What model number? I can then check against drills I've used.
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Dewalt model 

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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Originally posted by Pcj Pcj wrote:

Didnt " steps" post about using drill somewhere?

Yes he did. I would go with the current advice.

And whatever happened to Steps?
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