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Winter has been about scoping new areas for fishing in the shallows using the fly over summer, yesterday a little poke around the shallows before securing a feed of snapper on bait. Still a month or two off before the shallows fire.
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Great as usual Graeme. Have you targeted parore? Looks good water around those mangroves. Cheers
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Out for a flick on sunday,
pretty productive
4 snaps 2 kahawai[that were busting up over a reef] and a sneaky Gurnard, such a pretty fish!
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Well done FISHBYFLY, especially the gurnard. What depth was the gurnard in? Cheers
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Yahoo! Love gurnard. Don't see enough of them up this way
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The only place I have had any luck with gurnard is offshore from Matakana Island in 14 metres, in a no wind drift, twitching a tenth ounce dumbbell charlie/clouser style fly on an high density fly line. Hardly fly fishing, just twitching the fly as you drift. Usually, sooner or later, the odd gurnard grabs the fly. Works on the snaps too. Have never caught a gurnard off the shore, but no doubt there are places where this is possible. Really good to see other swoffers having success with gurnard. Cheers 
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The Gurnard was in about3 metres of water,
i think its the third time ive hooked one in that water, its a piece of water that ive been concentrating on for the last few months, its full of numerous'baittrap' locations that will hopefully result in kingfish encounters in the coming months, only time will tell.
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Thanks for the information FISHBYFLY, great you have found a honey hole for the gurnard. Good luck with the kings too. Bloody slow to turn up this season in Tauranga. Starting to see a few bait fish schools, so the kings must be close. Water temperature at this end was 15.4 deg.C to 16.2 deg.C over the last few days, really need some noreasterlies to warm things up. Cheers
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Still trying to nail a kaipara gurnard on fly.
Bait fish starting to turn up in the kaipara but no numbers yet, got some cool drone footage of a school hard up in the shallows last weekend
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its about now i start to find Trevs in westcoast harbours otdrmn,i tend to find them hard up against structure during high current flow tidal times,keep an eye out!
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first kingi hookup of the new season. Kingis 1, Nick nil. 
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Good stuff Nick. I hear there has been quite a few big kings in the Auckland region lately.

We are getting a few starting to show up here, but the ones we have found have been slow to bite on anything. Things are warming up though. Spawning snapper moving in and pilchard/anchovy work-ups happening occasionally. With a big northerly forecast for the end of the week it will be all on soon
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I'm finally on-board for the season but did not find any kings like you did Nick.

I shot out early morning yesterday from Takapuna. Well, it was meant to be early but thanks to my neighbour's parking skills I almost didn't get the boat out of the driveway.  

Then I tried to launch on a surprisingly busy Taka ramp near low tide.  I launched to the right, which I had never done before and dropped the trailer off a kind of step a the edge of the ramp which I did not know was there. No the trailer was it stuck on the axle. 

Embarrassing Cry. I recovered, thankfully, by getting the boat into the water and then lifting the trailer back onto the ramp by hand.  I love small boats!

After that things were on the up.  The channel markers had no kings.  I was a bit late by now anyway.  I saw some gannets sitting on the water west of rangi.  Turned out to be a few rafts of them so I waited.

It wasn't long before a couple of full blown workups started.  Followed by all the boats in the area.  Everyone behaved well though so it wasn't a problem.  

The sounder was going crazy but the gannets keep the fish well down, at least 5m or more and it was 14m to 18m of water.  I tried hard to get down fast enough but it was challenging.  I did eventually hook a nice kahawai, only to drop it at the boat.

I then changed tactics going with a drogue and long, deep, slow drifts.  It was slow fishing but I did manage 2 snapper at 38 and 42cm and a 52 cm kahawai.  That sorted dinner.

The workups died down by about 10am.  I went to check the markers again, still no-one home.  Lots of anchovies' sign dotted the rangi channel in about 12m of water with the occasional kahawai bust up.

I drifted and landed two tiny snapper before I left at around 11am.  I suspect the kahawai would have started working the anchovies in another hour or so.  The terns were already really excited and there were a few random bust ups.

All in all a great day with some nice fish and chips for the family last night and a fish curry today.





Both snapper had these in them, looks like mantis shrimp to me?  The kahawai had a completely empty stomach.
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Great stuff mate. Boom, its on!
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Good work Johan!
Shrimps are snapping shrimps (Alpheus sp.). Typically found in holes in the mud. You'd think they'd have to dig right down to get them out. Maybe they catch them at night? Interesting

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Great fishing jofly - my home waters right there. You using a fast sinking 40 plus style line? Drifting would have been the way to go in that calm yesterday - anchored i can hit 18m depth after a bit of a wait with my fourty plus but doubt i would on the drift. Pink flies doing better on snaps?
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Yes I was using a fast sinking line. It could be a 40 plus or outbound. I can't remeber which line it is but I think rio. It is an integrated shooting head style line.

I ended up using a piper fly with heavy dumbell eyes to try and match what I think must have been pilchards in the workups. I don't have a pilchard fly.

Normally I use shrimplike flies when drifting for snapper. I don't think they are too fussy. Just needs to get down to them and have movement.

I can get down to 12m on the drift. It just takes a while. The problem with the workups are they move too fast and the gannets keep the fish deep.

So I think the kahawai had gone by the time I was getting deep enough. They stick in tight balls around the bait and move fast while the snapper tend to trail and be deeper down.

The snapper were caught well after the main workup had passed, deep down, and the kahawai were caught in amongst or close to the diving birds when a workup came close enough to me.

I tend to catch snapper on a dead drift and kahawai only when I start stripping the fly back fast. I also think kahawai tend to be more fussy on flies in these workup situations and want something similar to the baitfish.

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Thanks for your post - very informative.
Been doing a bit of berley on anchor/minkota and the small snapper tend to be a pain in the arse. Last time landed over 20 up to 34cm - many hit the fly hard while it was sinking not even retrieved. Pink clouser was the favourite but pink boobies go well too.
Was wondering if flies too small but did hook a nice trevally with a few kahawaii thrown in so good fun. My mate next to me landed snapper to 65cm so big ones were there but maybe little ones too quick and agressive .
I have also noted in the work ups kahawaiii a bit fussy too - my go too most of the time is a simple grey ghost small size 10 sort of thing and they usually hammer them.
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Originally posted by Redfinger Last time landed over 20 up to 34cm - many hit the fly hard while it was sinking not even retrieved. Pink clouser was the favourite but pink boobies go well too. <br>[/QUOTE Redfinger Last time landed over 20 up to 34cm - many hit the fly hard while it was sinking not even retrieved. Pink clouser was the favourite but pink boobies go well too.
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This is the secret of snapper on the fly.

The moment it hits the water keep the fly line straight as the  hits can come within a second

This is the secret of snapper on the fly.

The moment it hits the water keep the fly line straight as the  hits can come within a second or two. 

And the DNR (DO Nothing Retrieve ) is the ticket, especially in shallow water, try to leave even as long as a minute or two before slowly crawling it along the bottom. Booby fly style in fact.
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Got out early morning on the rising tide. Lots of stirred up muddy water to begin, but as tide pushed up over the flats got some clear water to fish. But not a bite, swirl or even any sighting of a finny denizen in four hours fishing. Even took along some old fishy bits for berley  and got no reaction other than one gull picking up a couple of pieces. 
Looks like Auckland is stuck with breezy stuff for next few days.Thumbs Down
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