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Ok so I bagged a few kahawai last weekend Smile - I gather they have to be bled before cooking them to minimise their strong taste. I didn't do this at the time Embarrassed - just filleted them and put them in the freezer. Are they best smoked or just used for bait or cat food? Has anyone got a good recipe for cooking them?
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Kahawai dont have a good reputation as an eating fish, they certainly don't keep well. The best thing IMO is to smoke those you have in the freezer. Treated right and eaten fresh they are surprisingly good. Have a scroll through the kitchen forum there are some recipes there but seasoned crumbed and fried they aren't too bad at all but best eaten within a day of capture.
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Yep as Smudge says...hey you got 'em, may as well smoke 'em. Once smoked eat as is, or make fish cakes (smash up with cooked potatoe) delicious!

Basically you don't HAVE to bled them but put on ice at least as soon as you catch them.
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Filleting them fresh, make sure you remove all the deep red meat as well, that is what will taint the white flesh with the uber-taste.
Apparently thems as likes the stuff say that kahawai makes fantastic sashimi when handled right... filleted fresh, all red meat trimmed off, chilled well for a few hours, then sliced thin as per all shashimi stuff.
Can't offer a personal view on this, as I think sashimi is fish-flavoured chewing gum, and will run a reasonable distance to get away from it.
Pan fried I have eaten it before, and it tastes an awful lot like fish, pretty much the same as any oher fish really... :-)
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A very underrated fish in my opinion. On capture I immediately cut through the spine to bled for 20 sec then pull the head away taking all the gut with it and bung the flesh on ice.

One of the best fish for spliting and hot smoke in my opinion also very good filleted and fried in the pan with butter and seasoning within a day of capture (or better couple of hours).
If you find the fillets you have now are a bit strong don't let them put you off. Next time out treat em as above and you will find them a brilliant fish.
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straight from the sea filleted cover in flour and pan fryed with butter then a drizzil of chilli sauce over the top Beer if filleting at sea place in a zip lock bag with sea water and chill to keep fresh ,remember must be bleed .if freezing best smoked then as lose texture when thawed .
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cut the fillets into slabs and chuck them in batter and then fry them in hot oil
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I like them pan fried fresh ,but too strong after that ,have found them good when frozen or a day old cut into small pieces ,fried in batter and used for Sweet and sour fish .Yummy .Use a light batter ,1 inch cubes of Kahawai ,fry till Golden brown then heat a jar of the off the shelf Sweet and Sour sauces ,add extra s like capsicums ,pineapple pieces etc .Pour sauce over fish pieces and serve .Great stuff Tones down that strong Kahawai flavour for me  Also like them smoked done in a white sauce with parsley then baked in a pie 
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Kahwai sashimi = delicious! Pretty much done only when freshly caught, dip a bit into a little mixture of soy sauce and wasabi and its good to go!
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Definitly bleed them straight away, simply by breaking the neck and removing gills. Kawhai are very underrated as an eating fish mainly because people dont bleed them.

Hot smoking is one good way of cooking them. Cut the fish down one side of the backbone from the stomach side of the fish, so you can have both sides of the fish opened out. rub generous amounts of brown sugar, salt, and if you like, chilli sauce, into the flesh, and then smoke.

Also, pan frying the fillets in butter and oil with no batter/ crumbs works well, just add herbs, which makes for really tasty kahawai.
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 "I think sashimi is fish-flavoured chewing gum, and will run a reasonable distance to get away from it."LOL
 

 
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Wash your mouth out Smudge. Kahawai has a better taste than Snapper in my opinion (I can see this not going down well) and pan fried with the normal herbs etc in a mix of butter and lemon juice, then slid between a couple of slices of bread is delicious.
 
There's two easy ways to bleed Kahawai, first is to cut up from behind gills to just about right through and the pumping heart pumps most of the blood out, or cut the tail off and same result.
 
I don't ever freeze fish as I only usually catch enough for a feed that day, or the next few... or I share with others.
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I'm a rare one that actually likes Ky.  We caught a few last weekend and I filleted, removed the dark red flesh then cut into fish finger size portions then crumbed them.  They've been frozen and come out fine to my taste buds. Had them on the day of capture to and I can't really taste a huge difference with the frozen ones.
 
I'm thinking when out next to fillet them on the boat as soon as caught then chilly bin the fillets only rather than the whole fish to do when I get home.
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Thanks guys. Looks like I should invest in a smoker.Smile  Not a fan of sashimi either but do like smoked fish.
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Very under ratedd fish i reckon, filleted fresh they make great sushimi and cut in half and smoked is all good too!
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Yes - definitely makes excellent sashimi. I have prepared a sashimi tasting dish for family and friends, included on plate kahawai, John Dory, snapper and trevally. All agreed the kahawai was the best. Now it is my target if I'm after sashimi fish. Only thing is you must do this pretty much same day as caught or at most next day. I dont like freezing fish and Kahawai doesnt keep too well just chilled in the fridge.
Agree also that you should bleed it for best.
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As they all say above Seagull, fresh is best, cut out the red meat and bleed if you can...

...if you have to feeze it use it for bait...tiz good allrounder...well if fresh it is...don't forget the gills and bloody gut bits are top big snapper bait straylined off and around the rocks and similiar reefy environs...Big hook and cast it out without a sinker/
 
...Top class as Sashimi or any raw fish marinade...
 
...Mint Smoked and then you can freeze successfully.
 
Kahawai is very under-rated...
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They do make great sashimi,  if you do decide to fry it keep the fillets small and they don't dry out like a big hunk of fish will if you try and cook it.About the size of a sausage of something works for me, have a lok in the kitchen section plenty of options there.
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Dont get me wrong I'm a big KY fan. I target them at night over winter land based and probably keep at least half of my catch for food, a few others for bait and let the rest go. Without a doubt I have caught more kahawai than any other fish by a long way. In this family we would mostly feast on snapper first, gurnard second and kahawai third.

To be honest I don't really think bleeding them achieves much but I usually do so just because. The last kahawai snack I had was from three smaller fish of around 1.5kg and didn't bleed them and they tasted fine. To bleed just put a knife through the gills and cut through the throat, as another poster said that will cut the artery (or is it a vein?) right behind the heart and the blood will squirt out. Another option is to stick your finger through the gills and just break through the throat by pulling your finger through, takes a bit of manly effort but it's a great gross out trick for the squeamish. You can then bend the head back and squirt blood all over your mates really clean boat, he wont mind at all.

I'm not a fan of cutting the tail for two reasons - it isnt as effective as cutting it's throat & it is a really good way to cut yourself. When I bleed a ky I often put them head first in a bucket with a little water and throw a towel over the top to keep the mess in.

Good to see lots of kahawai fans here and thanks to all for a very good help for Seagull. Thumbs Up
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Yep I think everyone has said it - Great pan fried when fresh. Need to bleed them well. I cut through the head and the tail to bleed them. They're also nice smoked. I was away with a mate surfcasting in Barrier. we caught a couple of KY, which I bleed and took back to camp for tea. He'd never kept them for eating before. I cooked them up- now he always takes them home for tea


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