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    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 11:16am
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Who doesn't like a bit of round up with their honey on toast...
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https://www.tvnz.co.nz/content/tvnz/onenews/story/2020/07/26/weed-killer-glyphosate-found-in-new-zealands-mnuka-honey.html?auto=6175160227001&fbclid=IwAR0lqlU8vkRM2WFPtzIvyDWqkz1X9YVm8nFlNUoVG8itZFyIqrjaVRlWz6Y
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Yeah it's been found in alot.of products in the USA aswell. Monsanto says it's harmless lol.
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Good old NZ loves to poison things
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Commercial potato growers spray their crop with it because they're easier to harvest without the vegetation on top.
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so that would absorb into the tubers and then into us. just great.
And medical profession mystified at the increase in cancer and other modern disease.
Good reason to eat organic.

Initally they said roundup broke down quickly in the soil,and it was so safe you could drink it,not that anyone did.

For a considerable time now its been known that roundup does not break down and is a persistent soil and environmental toxin. And we still use it everywhere. Crazy.
Monsanto have recently lost multi billion dollar law suits over its suspected link to cancer,notably  californian parks and reserves workers.

Yet in N.Z we ignore all that.Its widely used here. Auckland council still sprays grass verges with what is probably roundup.
And where does it end up. In the gulf and possibly into our fish.

Yet how would it get into manuka honey. Manuka grows in remote wild places and the flowers are well above ground level. One would think honey would be the last place to find traces of glyphosphate
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Maybe that's what the warts you see in some gurnard are?
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Na the gurnard warts are from 1080
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Originally posted by cirrus cirrus wrote:

so that would absorb into the tubers and then into us. just great.
And medical profession mystified at the increase in cancer and other modern disease.
Good reason to eat organic.

Initally they said roundup broke down quickly in the soil,and it was so safe you could drink it,not that anyone did.

For a considerable time now its been known that roundup does not break down and is a persistent soil and environmental toxin. And we still use it everywhere. Crazy.
Monsanto have recently lost multi billion dollar law suits over its suspected link to cancer,notably  californian parks and reserves workers.

Yet in N.Z we ignore all that.Its widely used here. Auckland council still sprays grass verges with what is probably roundup.
And where does it end up. In the gulf and possibly into our fish.

Yet how would it get into manuka honey. Manuka grows in remote wild places and the flowers are well above ground level. One would think honey would be the last place to find traces of glyphosphate

New Zealand is approx. 20 years behind the rest of the world.
Good or bad ideas.
However we still tend to implement the bad ideas as well with those in charge parroting the old "yes there were problems, however we have learned and will do it better".
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Originally posted by taurangatroutmaster taurangatroutmaster wrote:

Na the gurnard warts are from 1080

Don't be silly.  
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Can't say I disagree with the statement that glyphosate residue is bad. I'm sure that good old NZ isn't the only place to have sprayed glyphosate all over the place. Monsanto wouldn't be able to pay out billions if it all happened here so it is pretty safe to say it is a widespread problem.

I've used the stuff myself on my reasonably clean green lifestyle block. Not ideal but 20 years ago I didn't know any better, but I still use it.

Who else uses it?
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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Originally posted by taurangatroutmaster taurangatroutmaster wrote:

Na the gurnard warts are from 1080

Don't be silly.  


I'd be inclined to think he's joking Smudge.
With that being said groundwater contamination and run off from 1080 drops definitely aren't good for any species including us.
What is the actual go with the gurnard thing out of interest?
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v8-coupe, spot on.
How many times do we hear that same argument used by those pushing socialism.
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I remember definitely a few years back when they bombed Rangitoto with 1080 a few years back. Scallop diving  was suddenly in the "no bloody way" category.
Funnily enough lots of dead penguins started washing up on Narrowneck , Cheltnam etc. And sure as eggs we were fed some crap about a toxic sea slug.Hmmmmmm. 
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I was joking about the gurnard, it's obviously just teenage gurnard going through puberty but 1080 is bad. I remember the "toxic seaslug" thing. Didn't realise they 1080ed rangitoto at the same time
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Originally posted by Fishy11 Fishy11 wrote:

Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Originally posted by taurangatroutmaster taurangatroutmaster wrote:

Na the gurnard warts are from 1080

Don't be silly.  


I'd be inclined to think he's joking Smudge.
With that being said groundwater contamination and run off from 1080 drops definitely aren't good for any species including us.
What is the actual go with the gurnard thing out of interest?

Me too Fishy but I wouldn't bet money on it. It is a condition known as lymphocystis and it is common to see on gurnard caught in the Manukau harbour (and other places) especially over summer/autumn.

The fish do start to lose condition when they get it bad but I don't keep skinny fish because IMO they are better off in the food chain (there's nothing I've seen that implies it is a contagious condition and skinny fish are often from other stuff also such as post spawning).

I don't for one minute think it is anything to do with 1080, Fukushima, glyphosate, Monsanto et al BUT I think nitrate levels may perhaps be a trigger.

Not wanting to start another 'thing' but I believe nitrates are a bigger issue than all those other things put together in NZ.
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OK, while I was hammering the keyboard slowly TTM has confessed to joking and I was hoping he was as I hold him in higher regard than that. I don't disrespect everything he says.
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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

... I'm sure that good old NZ isn't the only place to have sprayed glyphosate all over the place ... 

Who else uses it?

It is still in use by local councils here in Perth.  When they spray road verges and median strips warning signs (arse covering exercise) and witches hats alert pedestrians and motorists of its use.     
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I read somewhere roundup is in new mums breast milk in nz... we all absorb a credit card sized amount of micro plastics through food and air each week...car exhaust linked to growing numbers of Alzheimer’s...diabetes from eating rubbish food that is cheaper than healthy food...sugar ...arrrgh nice little planet we have created for ourselves 
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Is there evidence that glyphosphate is toxic to humans at the levels found in food products?
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