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    Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 12:09pm
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Weather is awful. I'm bored. Making fishing plans. 

Anyone had luck throwing unweighted softies around the shallows or wash. I'm thinking of the new big Gulps, the 10inch eel and the King Shrimp. Should have enough weight to cast a decent distance without the addition of a jig head?
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Haven't tried but piqued curiosity.
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Big worm hook with screw. I have some Owner Beast hooks sat in the garage looking for a purpose.
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Andrew not being a Doubting Thomas but my thoughts are;

In winter fish are lethargic, move slowand don't need to eat daily, those that do or want to bite a lure will generally only do so if they are confident in nailing it without wasting energy. And that is why smaller lures work best in the winter.

However, if you are over rocky coastal reefy area then you may entice a big snap or JD from out of the weed with the large slow moving eel type lures.

I change from braid to light mono in the winter as a lot of fish are very shy to the bite and touch of a rod/line flick/movement... with braid you might feel and detect every bite, but so can shy fish. So I find light mono with some elasticity and circle hooks really help on slow days with a tiny bite. Some of those tiny touches and bites have turned out to be 10-12lbers so patience is a virtue.

May be even a slug gun lead pallet with a hole drilled in it will give some weight to the rig or some solder wrapped around the top/eye area... just lazy thoughts.
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Yep. 1/8oz 3/0 hooks. Bit hard to find them. I use lightest braid possible and usually 16lb leader. Love catching fish in the shallows 2-4m. Usually have to keep lure moving to keep off the bottom. Bigger softies help with the casting.
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Originally posted by Catchelot Catchelot wrote:

Andrew not being a Doubting Thomas but my thoughts are;

In winter fish are lethargic, move slowand don't need to eat daily, those that do or want to bite a lure will generally only do so if they are confident in nailing it without wasting energy. And that is why smaller lures work best in the winter.

However, if you are over rocky coastal reefy area then you may entice a big snap or JD from out of the weed with the large slow moving eel type lures.

I change from braid to light mono in the winter as a lot of fish are very shy to the bite and touch of a rod/line flick/movement... with braid you might feel and detect every bite, but so can shy fish. So I find light mono with some elasticity and circle hooks really help on slow days with a tiny bite. Some of those tiny touches and bites have turned out to be 10-12lbers so patience is a virtue.

May be even a slug gun lead pallet with a hole drilled in it will give some weight to the rig or some solder wrapped around the top/eye area... just lazy thoughts.

All thoughts good. Agree with you about smaller lures in winter. My prediction with those big Gulps is that they will get pecked to death by small snapper and leatherjackets, but may give it a go just for fun.
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Originally posted by Polar_Kiwis Polar_Kiwis wrote:

Yep. 1/8oz 3/0 hooks. Bit hard to find them. I use lightest braid possible and usually 16lb leader. Love catching fish in the shallows 2-4m. Usually have to keep lure moving to keep off the bottom. Bigger softies help with the casting.

OK, interesting. As an aside, it's annoying that with shop bought jig heads hook size increases with jig weight. I'm usually looking for a 1oz jig head with a 1/0 hook which doesn't exist, so have reverted to worm hooks and egg sinkers. In this instance, bigger hooks on a light jig head may be the way forward. 
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Maybe drop those surgeons fingers and have a go at this soft plastic Andy.Big smile




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Thanks for posting that Catchelot. AWESOME!
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A work of art. Not sure how long it would last when a snapper grabs it though LOL
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Look for small bullet weights that they use for a Texas rig, I had them so small or you could use tungsten split shot.
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Two weeks ago we had them taking softies off the surface with 8th oz heads and 16th oz heads, you can find theses in the states and have a wide gape and there strong as.
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Go one better than the tungsten split shot and use the tungsten beads the flyfishos use for weight on their flies.

You get them in a range of colours and weight sizes.

EDIT: Great video Al - thanks for sharing that.
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I have been doing pretty well fly fishing with unweighted 5cm softbaits on the Tongariro.
 
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