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    Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 4:59pm
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Originally posted by TimTheEagle TimTheEagle wrote:

Looks like we all had similar snapper fishing and great days out.
With all the wind we've been having it was nice to get out in light winds.
Our story is pretty similar to Smudge but we left at 1130 and went out to 47m.  
Fishing slow and got a number of kahawai, gurnard, one trev, pannie snapper and one 55cm, a small and a medium tope.  Hmm quite a bit of gear wasted on the tope.
Came back into 30m at 1730 but pannies got smaller and one got taken by what I imagine was a large shark (kingfish in my dreams) as it broke my line before we could see it.  Time to go home so crossed back in at 1830.
Conditions were great but we effectively crossed pretty close to low and high tides.  Great day out.
How far out were you trolling for the Albies Smudge?

hi TTE, good to hear from you. Wefaknis told me the albies were at 65m so we headed there, found a current line and followed that. I think we spent 10mins dragging tuna lure when we had a double hook up. Did another 20 mins or so then pulled the pin to cross just before high. Smoked and fresh albie for tea Big smile


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Originally posted by Skoti Skoti wrote:

We probably didn't need such an early start yesterday but launched just after 6 yesterday from Te Toro .
Bar was flat and just a little lumpy on the end of it with the out going tide .
Out to 60 meters and found the fishing slow with a snapper here and there but probably 2 million sharks .
We persisted for a few hours slowly filling the bin with reasonable sized pennies all the while releasing twice the number of sharks .
We moved in closer to a spot Neil had on his GPS at about 38 meters and then the fishing came alive and we filled the bins .
Best snapper was about 8 lb caught by Neil's daughter , we also had a few trevs , my and gurnard in there too .

Nice work Skoti, fishing was slow for us at first then it picked up. Got the smoker fired up now!


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We probably didn't need such an early start yesterday but launched just after 6 yesterday from Te Toro .
Bar was flat and just a little lumpy on the end of it with the out going tide .
Out to 60 meters and found the fishing slow with a snapper here and there but probably 2 million sharks .
We persisted for a few hours slowly filling the bin with reasonable sized pennies all the while releasing twice the number of sharks .
We moved in closer to a spot Neil had on his GPS at about 38 meters and then the fishing came alive and we filled the bins .
Best snapper was about 8 lb caught by Neil's daughter , we also had a few trevs , my and gurnard in there too .
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Looks like we all had similar snapper fishing and great days out.
With all the wind we've been having it was nice to get out in light winds.
Our story is pretty similar to Smudge but we left at 1130 and went out to 47m.  
Fishing slow and got a number of kahawai, gurnard, one trev, pannie snapper and one 55cm, a small and a medium tope.  Hmm quite a bit of gear wasted on the tope.
Came back into 30m at 1730 but pannies got smaller and one got taken by what I imagine was a large shark (kingfish in my dreams) as it broke my line before we could see it.  Time to go home so crossed back in at 1830.
Conditions were great but we effectively crossed pretty close to low and high tides.  Great day out.
How far out were you trolling for the Albies Smudge?
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Originally posted by cirrus cirrus wrote:

Nice looking catch john,with some sizeable fish there,and all showing good condition.
Was considering a late afternoon ,early evening trip my self, but the sudden arrival of a fairly fresh south wester put paid to that.
Strange about no Kahawai. Associate this time of year with a few big ,very fat, roed up Kahawai.
every day last few weeks wind in afternoon - possibly because water temp quite cool for this time of year and as land warms up sea breeze sets in.
Good fishing trip nothing breaks, great trip catch fish.
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Nice work MacSkipper! We were one of those boats trundling past.We crossed the bar at around 10.30am. went out to 58m and it was very slow. In typical west coast fashion though things picked up and we got snapper to 10lb, 5 or 6 gurnard, a trevally, one kahawai and one of those big Peruvian - or whatever they are called - mackerel. Like a Jack mack but longer and more slender. We also got more than our fair share of big tope. Today was like a replay of last week were we had a similar catch of snapper and sharks. 

With an hour and a half to spare before we had to head in we towed some MacSkippy lures for albies and after 5mins were rewarded with a double strike, both of which ended up in the ice. A very productive day. This was a big gurnard, 47cm and 1.2kg




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Nice looking catch john,with some sizeable fish there,and all showing good condition.
Was considering a late afternoon ,early evening trip my self, but the sudden arrival of a fairly fresh south wester put paid to that.
Strange about no Kahawai. Associate this time of year with a few big ,very fat, roed up Kahawai.
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Fished harbour entrance superb conditions lots going over the bar
8 Snapper largest 52cm threw several legal ones back not big enough stopped fishing as had enough - didn't catch one Kahawai!


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I have a free spot on my boat for a 9.00am start tomorrow. I've had someone drop out of my crew. PM me is you're keen to chase snapper across the Manukau Bar, leaving Te Toro.


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Originally posted by josephal josephal wrote:

What sort of rigs and sinker weights are you guys using on the manukau? When I tried fishing it last year the current was horrendous lol. Granted you said try fishing couple hours before high.

Hi Joseph. It depends entirely on where you're fishing. I usually fiosh shallow water of 5m or less and can usually get away with 6 to 1 oz or less. I strayline that shallow water or use a two hook dropper rig. Usually one of each.  For deeper water I use up to a 12oz sinker on a dropper rigs. I try to avoid the big tides unless it's an evening fish in the shallows. #m can be very productive on the big tides which are incoming tides with an approx 6pm low


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What sort of rigs and sinker weights are you guys using on the manukau? When I tried fishing it last year the current was horrendous lol. Granted you said try fishing couple hours before high.
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 Sat tides get us back inside the bar 2hrs before sundown.. light breeze from S coming in thats ok

That light SW breeze looks as if going to pick up after lunch.
Even thu swell down..NOT a time to cross the Waikato bar and the Manukau would be not the best either.
Will check this arvo forecast, if no change will pull the plug...

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Give that a go


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Yip have navionic on phone was going to try out wairopa channel first and see how I get on there.

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if first time from mangere go over high tide gets quite shallow in places over low?
 Do you have gps plotter or at least navionics on your phone or tablet..
Banks do move a bit, even so will keep you in the right place, espec if mist is present like last weekend
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Originally posted by MacSkipper MacSkipper wrote:

Originally posted by Kaplin14 Kaplin14 wrote:

Hey guys,

Planning my first trip out from mangere bridge this weekend and am looking for some help on where to start. Was thinking of heading between Te Tau bank and wairopa channel?
high or low tide?   Time your trip 2 hrs before slack water to much flow mid tide so bite is hour or two each side of high or low tide, if first time from mangere go over high tide gets quite shallow in places over low?  


Was thinking I'll try mid way through the rising tide cycle?
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Originally posted by Kaplin14 Kaplin14 wrote:

Hey guys,

Planning my first trip out from mangere bridge this weekend and am looking for some help on where to start. Was thinking of heading between Te Tau bank and wairopa channel?
high or low tide?   Time your trip 2 hrs before slack water to much flow mid tide so bite is hour or two each side of high or low tide, if first time from mangere go over high tide gets quite shallow in places over low?  
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Hey guys,

Planning my first trip out from mangere bridge this weekend and am looking for some help on where to start. Was thinking of heading between Te Tau bank and wairopa channel?
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If you only go out when calm forecast then you will only get hammered a few times a year - if you push your luck one day you will get in trouble, so stay safe out there...its not worth dying over!

 Those couple calm day trips we took over the Manuaku bar in your 420 where a great influence on my already cautious attitude to the sea..espec bars. Had been over in bigger boats, the small er boat gives excellent perspective.

 I go out when it has been calm, and come back ( strict tide dependent) when still going to be calm.
if you push your luck one day you will get in trouble,
Have an attitude those who want to push their luck for the sake of going out to get a feed and good company PLAY AT HEROES.. Its the ppl who go out to get them when things go wrong are the REAL HEROES

 Crossing a bar is like crossing a road
  You can cross when not busy periods between rush hour (flat water) and look each way (wind swell height  visual etc)
 Or simply put a blind fold on , have only a rough idea of time of day, and walk out into the traffic hopping it will go around you (big set of waves dont come thru.

I always intend to come home to my wife, grandchild with a feed.. and similar with any crew, other wise what is the point.

Hmm Thurs looking real good , no wind and in thr nth..

 Sat tides get us back inside the bar 2hrs before sundown.. light breeze from S coming in thats ok
 
Sunday Tide means coming in too close to sundown, and nautical is about 30 mins after


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