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Originally posted by Telecaster Telecaster wrote:

Saturday looks good, full moon though... I need to fix my sounder wire, broke the spade terminal thing off last time out. Maybe do it after work tomorrow.

Perfect squidding conditions for the next few evenings - I find them really aggressive as the moon fills up.


Hmmm squid
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Saturday looks good, full moon though... I need to fix my sounder wire, broke the spade terminal thing off last time out. Maybe do it after work tomorrow.

Perfect squidding conditions for the next few evenings - I find them really aggressive as the moon fills up.
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No Camera on that one, it's a more basic option. 

Can still drop 6 hooks 500m out though which is pretty cool. 

I also want to rig it up to drop my softbaits off for a super super long retrieve which would be pretty epic. 

Yeah that bar did look like it would be an interesting crossing when I saw it on Saturday lol. Poor fella. 

I did see that! Sounds like the "superBIC" is going alright. A shame about the holographic stuff coming loose, I guess I didn't use enough superglue. 
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No glass Stealths coming in until March/April next year at earliest. That somewhat unfortunate timing  tears the guts out of plan A. Kermit and I may have to get serious with the training and lay off the pies and chocolate fish this Winter.
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Got a camera on that drone K? Strikes would make for some great footage. Sometimes I've wondered if those really big commercial drones could offer a subscription service for game fishos over Summer, doing a sunrise grid search of the largest area they can cover looking for bait or game fish and texting the gps location to subscribers.

When the CFC kicked off I had planned to send  that exact species of fish (they are just 10 mins walk from home - dangerous) in both dark and milk chocolate to Shane for him and the young gun to devour. But to my great surprise he still hasn't won the comp yet. Just as well I didn't already buy the fish or they would have evaporated by now anyway.

That said, the neighbour and I did sneak out for a quick fish yesterday morning when the weather was nothing like it was forecast. But he didn't make it over the bar, got flipped out, bent paddle and that was the end of the session. He was  fine but I'm actually a bit OK with him getting the complacency knocked out of him. But, I swear the guy is cursed with the worst luck I've seen. Nobody else I know that spends over 30 hours out here chasing a Kingi doesn't land one. Well, except me when I'm fishing with him ;-)

To add insult to bent pride, a mate did the charter thing off Whangarei heads yesterday and sent me a few pics of a progressively filling bin of snapper and trevs and then, this morning, texted the near full bin with her 16lb donkey on top. She was kicking butt out there yesterday, while I was paddling back in having never even deployed a livie.

Did you see the score on the BIC lures? Your superBIC is doing very well. The holographic stuff has come loose and I might try without it and see if there is any drop in fish caught.
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Good to hear you got out on Friday KF, conditions were pretty poor the rest of the weekend.

I came up to Mangawhai on Friday but was a family trip with my Sister over from Aus, so not much time for fishing. 

My old man bought himself a drone setup which we took off Te Arai and caught a single kahawai. 

A quick flick at the anchor with sofbaits and another half hour softbait flick at the end of the coastal walk yielded no results. 

When I was in Mangawhai, I think found the chocolate fish you guys are competing for, surely this must be the one? 


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It's interesting trying to put each person's opinions on the merits of each kayak or features into context. I've never paddled a Viking and it may be they are efficient enough and way more stable which could be a big plus for the moonshot, and they are NZ-made which really spins my wheels, but, and this is a deal breaker for me, they promote bixpy's and I'm utterly, fundamentally and completely anally opposed to anything other than human power on a kayak. It's a bit out-there and I don't begrudge anyone who wants it for them but I'd rather buy a $4k true-kit inflatable 4m with small outboard than put a motor on any kayak I own. I personally would never be able to do it. So, I can't support a business that made a conscious call to promote that option. We had a good thread on it on KFNZ and there was nothing in it that came close to persuading me otherwise.

So, I've stayed in touch with other NZ manufacturers but they only have plans for a sleek efficient fishing kayak and nothing that's concrete. There is the thermo-formed barracuda that is quite appealing construction but I'm not convinced they've got the design right and are all that keen on the fishing niche given they haven't updated the design in a few years.

That really only leaves Stealth and that's not saying they aren't worthy. Far from it. It looks like such an awesome fishing kayak. If stable enough.

That's my take on matters and kayaks thus far anyway.

And pffft about the best kingi weapon. :-) Ya can't argue with results mate and my Pheonix weapon gets 'em. It just, like the eclipse and the okuma revenger, happens to also be bloody cheap. and it's keeping the $ in NZ.

I still rekon the guys behind it, ARM, should get with Stealth to make the latter's plastic fusion model here in NZ for NZ and Aus.
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Totally agree with what you say KF.

But some of the old which kayak is best Threads on here are hilarious.
If I were to be totally honest there is not much between the top brands it is just down to what trade offs you are willing to make.
I paddled a Stealth once felt weird, somehow more responsive and felt like I was flying along.
I miss my Profish 400 though, there was no better kayak a Kingfish could tow sideways ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Ha. Ya see, M, that's what's wrong with the world today. People can't be arsed with conflict and the clash of ideas and designs and as such we miss valuable opportunities for 'moderating' crap ideas and learning what's good for which scenarios.

People don't seem to value that opportunity as highly as I'd like these days and we end up with a vanilla society and fundamentalists with ideas and beliefs that were never adequately moderated by society early enough in their gestation. And we are breeding softcocks who insist upon building rainbow coloured walls of skittles guarded by unicorns on fluffy white clouds and whom can't cope with conflict or scrutiny or rejection or being challenged in any way.

We as a society are far worse off for it, me thinks. Besides, we all know, as I have proven it over many years, the NZ-made Phoenix is by far the choice of every serious kingi-hunting yakker this side of the devoid-of-colour stump. But for the moonshot I'm happy to admit it's gonna wear me out before I find anything resembling a marlin.

Regarding the visit, good idea, thanks. But it better include a whole day on the water with different yaks to get a feel for the best for me, if any or it's just wasting my time and Ryan's. Besides, as someone who tends to capsize his yak many times each Summer, I'm going to take at least a few hours just getting used to paddling a toothpick so will need a bit longer than a normal demo-day paddle about to get a good feel for the yaks as a fishing platform. Ideally I need to be towed around by a kingi to work a few things out.

*edit* I've got a benchmark paddle out to Langs and back that will be a superb test of the efficiency and give me a baseline to project how much further I can range on a Stealth while still being safe (I get very unco when tired), so perhaps a demo day without the chance to keep one for a few days isn't gonna fly all that great now that I think about it some more.

For all I know, I might get back from the Langs beach run on a demo Stealth and have to admit it's my fitness that is the weak link and a Stealth isn't going to compensate enough for that so I may as well stay with Kermit (my green Phoenix weapon) for all the good a Stealth will do for my feeble self, and plan instead on hitching a boat ride home, along with the marlin I land ;-)
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I donโ€™t debate kayaks anymore. We used to have legendary what is best debates years ago now ๐Ÿ˜‚
Well worth a visit on a rainy Sunday
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the longer the day the more staying hydrated is going to be important. Trouble is, where does it all go? I don't mind sitting in my own piss for a few hours if that's what it takes to own an efficient craft like the Stealths but 6-8 hrs might get a little whiffy.
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Had a chuckle about the wet seat. Been there ๐Ÿ˜‚
Havenโ€™t been for a fish for ages too.
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Good onya T. You fellas still able to produce a feed in these trying times deserve every calorie you can pull from the ocean...and a soothing beverage to wash it down.

Am wondering something about the drainage on the Stealth kayaks. I gather the footwells have scupper/venturi arrangements. But the seat doesn't. How much water/urine are Stealth owners sitting in?

Is the bottom of the footwells under the waterline? If so, are your feet sitting in water when stationary and the venturi isn't sucking it out and it back-fills?
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I don't think I've taken the kayak out for about 6 weeks,  the only thing keeping me semi-sane is the squidding has been pretty consistent off the rocks.

And a LOT of bourbon.
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Don't ask me. Maybe Shane can remind us, now that HY isn't here. I'll settle for a chocolate one but haven't been able to win one in about 30 hrs of trying, so might have go buy one.

There's some wonderful looking coastline between Mangawhai and Langs but I towed a livie along almost that entire stretch today and was surprised there was no interest. Miffed, I thought I'd chase a shark out at McGregor instead and they were long gone. Quite a few boats, mostly catching nothing or small stuff. So, back to the heads, then chasing a workup around for a k or two then struggle back against the current with tired arms and a dejected soul.

Worst doughnut day I've had in ages. Perhaps good training for the moonshot where there will be days upon days of nothing or nothing but sharks.

At least superBIC is kicking butt, scoring quite a few perfect sized livies (they don't count as real fish).

As I pulled up waterside this morning there were two kayakers just heading out. Seen the dude's "Pro Dive" ute  a few times so good to put a face to the ute when I saw them around the heads. Gave him a perfect sized, freshly caught livie and suggested the best time of the tide for me lately. I was on a mission so didn't stick around to see how he got on with it. Hope they had better luck than I did!
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What does a fish look like I forgot?
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took today off, on water just after 7am, off 4:30pm, not one keeper in about 25kms of paddling. My arse and arms are sore, for nothing. Heaps of livebait but nothing else.
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Sounds like a great morning Kingaling. Good onya. SuperBIC is getting wet this arvo/evening if the wind stays about where it is now. Am looking forward to it. I have decided to break open the reel of 25lb kairiki and spool up the rv55 putting superBIC on that and my regular pen lure on the kidstix/rv30. 

will keep ya posted...

BIC:2  *edit* 4
superBIC:1 *edit* 6

But the superBIC caught the best sized livie and looks sexy through the water. Sadly, no kingies this evening, but dug this piece of trash Veritas out of the low tide mark. A pity it was busted off just above the second eye.


For the record, got about 350m of 25lb braid on the rv-55. If I ever get a shot at another kingi, there's no way it's spooling me before swallowing the livie.

Also got 350m of the same braid on the baitrunner 6000OC that was spooled by a kingi some months ago. Might have to take some off to get 30m of 50lb topshot on there.
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Manage to get that pen lure wet yet kF? 

I got out on Saturday morning from Tindalls - fishing was pretty hot from sun up until about 8am. 

All action on the small tiger lime gulp SB's with 1/4 ounce jig head. 

Casting ahead of my drift and just letting it sink to the bottom, barely retrieving line - just staying in touch with the SB and letting it tickle along the bottom very slowly. I thought this slower technique be best for winter fishing, and it worked well for me on the day. 

First fish, lost what felt like a trevally under the boat, should have backed the drag off. 

Pulled in a nice wee panny which I kept, threw back a couple barely legals and dropped one or two reasonable feeling fish before hooking in to a decent ~55cm model, which  put up a good fight before going in the bin. First cast after that I hooked up to a really decent fish, took some big runs and I tightened up the drag a heap but it was still pulling string. Eventually spat the hook. Might have been a 20lb-er but I'll never know. I figure it either rubbed off on the bottom (sand) and I should've tightened the drag even more. Or It wasn't hooked well, just through the lip skin and I shouldn't have tightened the drag so much.  

Ah well, a bloody good morning out anyway. 
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Screw this weather. Car is loaded up for a sunrise mish tomorrow if the [email protected]$%DY [email protected]&@#$ing weather gives me half a chance.
#goingNuts

*edit* Did the same thing as before with the wee okuma rv-30. Couldn't find a perfect sized livie, the bigger than optimal one meant I was at risk of getting spooled before the kingi swallowed, so I had to crank up the drag only for the kingi to drop the bait and unfortunately not come back. and that was my one and only shot at it this morning.

Learned my lesson fellas. Will put the 30 on the kidstix bait rig and break out the big guns (rv-55) for the mighty eclipse livebaiting weapon.

But nice to know the big-ish units are still around. It felt about the same size as the one I did land the other day.

*edit* went to spool up the RV-55 tonight but all I could find was the new, unmolested 3000m reel of 25lb kairiki and I really don't want to break into it so have given it one last shot at selling the whole reel and if that doesn't work then will have to.

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