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    Posted: 28 Apr 2021 at 5:26pm
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Finally Judith speaks some sense, been waiting a while.
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https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/441350/collins-says-her-party-won-t-stand-for-racist-separatism-new-zealand
 
About time the opposition started to steer clear of the separtist government. They have been surprisingly quiet on many fronts, more is needed Judith.
 
 
Why choose either diving or fishing when you can do both. Besides crayfish tail is very good bait!!
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I saw what was edited. Hence my short reply nothing to say to that.
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Echo chambers empty Outtahere

Just the parasitic ghost of Muriel Newman floating about aimlessly looking for a host to Infect


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Actually... what the **** am I doing... pissing uphill into the wind.

Enjoy your echo-chamber lads.
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Originally posted by Muppet Muppet wrote:

And there it is.


Never mind.
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And there it is.
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Rozboon, just a few guys discussing policies that might well be coming our way. No panicking, no racism just social observations on what said policy/agenda means to us, the income taxpayer.

Discussion is part of democracy even after the election.

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Originally posted by Reel Deal Reel Deal wrote:

technically people born and breed in nz particularly 4-5 generations are indigenous New Zealanders. The same as indigenous Polynesian.

That's a money tree I'd rather not join tbh.
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technically people born and breed in nz particularly 4-5 generations are indigenous New Zealanders. The same as indigenous Polynesian.
The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of men's lives the hours spent on fishing - Assyrian Proverb
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I agree. The Treaty of Waitangi, or at least modern interpretations of it are not compatible with democracy. That's the rather large elephant in the room that is never discussed. We as a country have to decide what is more valuable. NZ is going down a very strange and in my opinion, dangerous path. Any dissent is shut down and labelled racism.
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Another angle on the same subject from a slightly better known media person.
https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2021/04/peter-williams-plans-for-co-governed.html
 
NZ Has some big issues with separtist law coming to a town near you, including water ownership, and health based on race with the latest health system overhauls.
 
On personal experience at a recent few days at Middlemore hospital, i was asked to complete some info for my wife who was admitted. What Ethnicity was she. A Maori, B Pacific Islander, C Other.
 
That says it all really!!!
 
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I agree with that.
There are so many “intellectual” and celebrity elites just spouting rubbish that it is costing the middle and lower classes dearly. Sowing an air of mistrust and menace, which is not helping anything.

There are a few who are actually calling the current state of affairs for what it is. But you won’t see them on MSM because they don’t fit the oppression narrative. And it’s a shame because some have actually lived through a lot and have a lot to offer on social discourse.



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Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:


The NZCPR forum (now defunct) was full of racists. Muriel Newman is probably a nutter, and almost certainly a racist.

So yeah. Feels pretty racist to me.

 Totally agree m8.

Seems they have picked up on the cabinet paper , (Real) The secret signing of THE UNITED NATIONS DECLARATION ON THE RIGHTS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES. The UN  rights of indigenous peoples declaration and running with it for their own agenda, even thu the UN delication is scarry to democracy as we know it.
 That is democracy based on the citizens , not based on race or culture.
 
Agree Steps, However its definitely a hard thing to raise in public and talk about. Anyone against the race based seats in government, councils and on boards or interested in defending democracy get labelled with the racism badge, which is being thrown around way to much as an easy way of getting people to back down.
 
But the there’s nothing racist about supporting equal rights and a colour-blind society. It’s those promoting racial privilege who are the ‘racists’.
 
I just hope enough of you even if you dont feel the need to reply, read into this a little more. There is a sea change happening and opposition to it needs your support.

 

 



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The NZCPR forum (now defunct) was full of racists. Muriel Newman is probably a nutter, and almost certainly a racist.

So yeah. Feels pretty racist to me.

 Totally agree m8.

Seems they have picked up on the cabinet paper , (Real) The secret signing of THE UNITED NATIONS DECLARATION ON THE RIGHTS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES. The UN  rights of indigenous peoples declaration and running with it for their own agenda, even thu the UN delication is scarry to democracy as we know it.
 That is democracy based on the citizens , not based on race or culture.
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Edit: is that an echo I hear?

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Some more reading if you are interested in the bigger picture.
https://www.nzcpr.com/the-end-of-democracy/
 
Steps the some info on NZCPR and their leader, ex ACT MP

Dr Muriel Newman

Dr Muriel Newman established the New Zealand Centre for Political Research as a public policy think tank in 2005 after nine years as a Member of Parliament. A former Chamber of Commerce President, her background is in business and education

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