Toa the Orca

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They spent $130K needlessly trying to keep 1 animal alive.

Un-*u*k*n*-believable.

Just how stupid are these nitwits.
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Very stupid! With the amount of public money that is wasted, I'm surprised we still have a functioning country.
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Just wait MB. Shouldn't be too long.
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I was rooting for the little bugger. But when I hard the parents took off I thought it may have been a lost cause. 
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Originally posted by Reel Deal Reel Deal wrote:

I was rooting for the little bugger. But when I hard the parents took off I thought it may have been a lost cause. 

The maternal instinct is very strong in most animals and humans. We don't tolerate women abandoning their kids (for some odd reason it seems ok for men) but most animals don't make those decisions lightly. Toa wasn't ever going to survive is my opinion. Mum probably abandoned him to give him a chance on his own without being a threat to the pod. 
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I’m no expert by any means, but they should have just lobbed him back in the ocean at the next high tide and wished him luck. They probably caused him way more suffering the way they did it. Nature is cruel. I know there are times to intervene but it did seem obvious this was going to go tits up.
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Yep - something like that was prob sensible.
But how would that look on TV to a nation of wokesters sipping their lattes?
Someone would risk loosing votes.
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But orca are cute, right up to the point where they crunch up fur seals after tossing them up into there air. Nature has a way of dealing with things
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Originally posted by DIY DIY wrote:

I’m no expert by any means, but they should have just lobbed him back in the ocean at the next high tide and wished him luck. They probably caused him way more suffering the way they did it. Nature is cruel. I know there are times to intervene but it did seem obvious this was going to go tits up.


A kayaker did exactly that a few years ago up the Coro.
From memory he said it seemed to jump for joy then went rushing up the coast. That would have been the best thing here too.

I do worry when experts say this was the best thing to do especially when it clearly was a natural causation of it being in trouble in the first place.
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Originally posted by Muppet Muppet wrote:

Originally posted by DIY DIY wrote:

I’m no expert by any means, but they should have just lobbed him back in the ocean at the next high tide and wished him luck. They probably caused him way more suffering the way they did it. Nature is cruel. I know there are times to intervene but it did seem obvious this was going to go tits up.


A kayaker did exactly that a few years ago up the Coro.
From memory he said it seemed to jump for joy then went rushing up the coast. That would have been the best thing here too.

I do worry when experts say this was the best thing to do especially when it clearly was a natural causation of it being in trouble in the first place.

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That's unfortunately the problem these days ...... just so many self styled experts in so many fields but not an ounce of common sense in amongst it all.

I'll leave it at that.
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I have never found animal activists/lovers to be terribly logical or objective. This is just another indicator. while we affect their ( animals) environments, and it is good to be careful and thoughtful towards them, i dont place their importance ahead of human life.
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I always place selected animals above human life. Humans are filthy roaches destroying the planet that supports them and everything else.

Anyways back to orca. Mother didn’t abandon. Pup was thrown up by a wave into a rock pool. Communication stopped instantly. I questioned why not put straight back into sea and let nature do what it does. Apparently if the weather was good enough to find the pod the success rate of inclusion as very high. Mother’s lactate for 30 days of baby death. Baby lasted 15 days.and amazingly if not it’s mother another female will start to lactate and adopt baby as documented in the past. There are only 200 orca left in NZ and these are split into two tribes that don’t mix.how much we spend on a serial killer in jail annually doing his life term? I know where my money would go if I had a choice.
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