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    Posted: 18 Oct 2019 at 4:42pm
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This is a bit of deja vu, as a few years ago I asked about a replacement tip section for my Kelsco (supposed Sage second) rod. Unfortunately, nobody had one.

Sadly, the tip of my trusty NZ-made CD Rods fly rod fractured on a recent trip to the Tongariro - a high sticking situation I think, but nothing I haven't done many times before.

 

By some miracle, does anyone have an old tip section gathering dust that they'd part with?

 

The model is a GHR 9'6" 8 wt - a 3 piece rod in midnight blue.


I've checked with CD rods. Nothing lying around in the warehouse.


It's interesting how most makers don't do 9'6" these days, mostly either 9' or step up to 10'. Mulling over options for a replacement rod, including using an old 9' 6wt Sage that's been in the cupboard ready for back country use that never came.



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Hi TTK     It would have to be a miracle to find one of these.     I had several but broke them all when we started to develop the TRC using heavy Spey lines.    When CD made the then new XLS rods I switched to those and am still using them.     Lost one this year at the Herekiki St in Turangi when I left it on the roof of the car and drove off.   Was already gone when I returned 10min later.    I bought another #8 XLS now made in China and am quite astounded how good this rod is.    $490 with a spare tip that is really good value for a rod that is as good as any of the US imports.    During the winter I get to cast many of them and to be honest I have not seen anything that is better even though many of them cost three times as much.    It is my firm belief that graphite as a rod building material has reached a ceiling and all they are now doing is playing around with rod action.    They cant make them any lighter without using higher modulus  graphite, which is more brittle and the rod becomes more fragile.  To keep the cash coming in they have even reinvented glass rods and there are a few gullible souls who are prepared to spend a thousand bucks for nostalgia trip.  
If you are strapped for cash buy an Airflo Primal, reel and line for $490 also with spare tip and cast iron warranty.     I recently cast one alongside a Scott Radian and failed to see much difference.    
 
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Some of the glass rods are fantastic Rainbow and they bring the soul and feeling back into the sport of fly fishing. In my opinion the graphite rod makers lost it when they produced faster and faster rods, and a lot of the pleasure of casting a fly was lost. The fact is that for little more than $100.00, you can buy an imported Chinese fly rod and experience what was somehow lost to our sport. Given the choice, I will reach for glass every time. Cheers
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Originally posted by Rainbow Rainbow wrote:

Hi TTK     It would have to be a miracle to find one of these.     

...  I bought another #8 XLS now made in China and am quite astounded how good this rod is.    $490 with a spare tip that is really good value for a rod that is as good as any of the US imports.    During the winter I get to cast many of them and to be honest I have not seen anything that is better even though many of them cost three times as much....
If you are strapped for cash buy an Airflo Primal, reel and line for $490 also with spare tip and cast iron warranty.     I recently cast one alongside a Scott Radian and failed to see much difference.    
 
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Thanks very much for the thoughts, Rainbow. I appreciate it.
I'm sure you're right, re the 'miracle'.
Just thought I'd ask.

i have a Sage XP 9 foot, 6 wt, in the gear cupboard that I've never even taken outside (was bought for back country trips that never eventuated). I understand it's a bit of a legend among Sage fans, and another of the gurus on here has convinced me to try that for winter nymphing and Otamangakau etc before I splash out on a new 8 wt. 
I hadn't thought about that as I cut my teeth on the 8-9 wt years of the Tongariro, with a range of Kilwell, Kelsco, Wynrod, and then CD Rods gear. And I have always preferred a 9'6" rod, seems to suit my casting style.

But if I don't get on with the Sage XP, I'll certainly put those other rods you mention on my list.  After picking myself up off the floor after i read the price tag on the Scotts and Sages etc, I looked at a Primal in Sporting Life the day after I broke the tip on the GHR, but decided to hire a rod for the day rather than make a kneejerk purchase. 
I've been so long out of the game in terms of both fishing the river and of buying gear, that I don't even recognise some of the brands. 
i'm still using an ABU 389 reel, and bumped into one guy who said 'Wow, I haven't seen one of those for a while!'.

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I had a Kilwell 4 wt and broke the tip and replaced with a GHR 4wt and the improvement was phenomenal - been using it for 10 years
Also have a 7 weight GHR which I found was a good match for an 8 wt line for Tongariro. Haven't used that rod for 10 years.
I prefer smaller steams and the GHR 4 is the only rod Ive used for ages.
Don't I have a lifetime warranty?? How could CD replace my NZ made GHR?
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Hi TTK     I think the #6 Sage XP will be fine for nymphing on the Tonga but I would use a #7weight line as this extra line mass will handle weighted bombs better.     Unless you have such a line I would recommend a Rio Gold as this line has a longer belly (46') that mends better at distance, has no memory and from my experience floats better than some others.   
 
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Ps    Some older rods are OK but I would not say this about old lines.     I got a drawer full of older lines but prefer to use modern quality lines that live up to what they promise.     Most rods even some cheap ones cast well enough to get you out there but what happens afterwards depends very much on how the line performs on the water.     That's when the advertising BS ends.
 
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Thanks Rainbow.
I'll definitely check those lines out if i decide to go lighter in the rod. I have a Scientific Anglers line for my now-broken 8wt (as you alluded to, I went up a line size to a WF9F - was kind of the done thing back in the day for power nymphing). It seems okay in terms of floatability,  mending etc.
Mind you, I'm no Herb S. when it comes to casting!

I've been looking up lines in the market nowadays and I'm a bit baffled by the variety and claims. You know the kind of stuff I mean - like the marketing speak for rods (X this, nano that).

There's an Airflo specialist nymph line that sounded okay, but that was as far as i got before needing to take a breather. Some of the lines say they are nearly a line weight over-rated, which doesn't help when trying to decide on the weight to buy.
in some of the Airflo floaters, for example, a WF6 is nearly a true WF7. So if you're not careful, you can end up trying to fish what is in reality nearly an 8 wt line on a 6 wt rod.

I believe some line companies starting to do that when the rod makers began pushing out 'fast' action rods, as it became obvious anglers needed the heavier line to make the rod work properly.
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I’ve got one of the GHR906/3 8Wt that I made up a coupe of years ago, had the blank lying around for about 5 years before I rolled it into my #2 saltwater rod . My #1 is an old Kilwell GF900/3 8/9 on an unground blank made it up 20 years ago, I can haul snapper up from 20 + mtrs and cast a one colour leadcore shooter further than most of my more expensive lines. Taken it down to Taupo a few times nymphing got some funny looks from the freashy guys when I load it up with a 10/11 floating shooter.
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