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Hey Smudge , if you get to the theoretical 50miles per hour , you have a great hull and are a fantastic helmsman. I've chickened out and backed off at 38kn ( about 44 miles an hour ) when the hull started to feel a bit skatey . I've got a similar sized hull, 5.2 m but 5.6m overall with the outboard pod. It's a fibre glass Marlborough 5.2 which is a John Haines design. I'm sure you will not be short on power . It will be interesting to hear how your boat performs with the new motor . You may find the ride improves as the extra torque at lower revs holds you on the plane better in choppy conditions . Fantastic motors , I'm sure it will feel like a whole new boat . Enjoy 
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We got our boat up to 75km/h on a glass like Lake Rotoiti , the further up I trimmed it the faster it went  , but it sure did tighten the ole sphincter, felt really unstable like  it was about to dig in and flip over  . My now boat ( 80's Marlborough Dart / 35hp Honda ) under similar conditions on Lake Monowai  managed to scratch up 42km/h  , but it does the day on 6l. 
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Interesting. I have an FC560/115hp. At full tilt, it hits 60km/h in flat conditions. Feels very stable, although I wouldn't want to hit a big wave at this speed. It cruises comfortably on the plane at 40km/h and this of course is where fuel efficiency is at it's highest. 

My previous "boat", Yamaha Waverunner maxed out at 95km/h. That did feel fast LOL
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Originally posted by rowboat bob rowboat bob wrote:

Hey Smudge , if you get to the theoretical 50miles per hour , you have a great hull and are a fantastic helmsman. I've chickened out and backed off at 38kn ( about 44 miles an hour ) when the hull started to feel a bit skatey . I've got a similar sized hull, 5.2 m but 5.6m overall with the outboard pod. It's a fibre glass Marlborough 5.2 which is a John Haines design. I'm sure you will not be short on power . It will be interesting to hear how your boat performs with the new motor . You may find the ride improves as the extra torque at lower revs holds you on the plane better in choppy conditions . Fantastic motors , I'm sure it will feel like a whole new boat . Enjoy 

Thanks RB. Took it for a spin today in dodgy as conditions. @0 knots of solid wind. We tried it lightly loaded then added 300 litres of water. Still managed 32 knots before wimping out!
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[QUOTE=MB]Interesting. I have an FC560/115hp. At full tilt, it hits 60km/h in flat conditions. Feels very stable, although I wouldn't want to hit a big wave at this speed. It cruises comfortably on the plane at 40km/h and this of course is where fuel efficiency is at it's highest. 

 60km/h per hour is just 32 knots or 37mph . It's fast enough and all  , bur the Merc four stroke 115 should do better than that on that hull. Maybe not quite the right prop. Yeah 40km/h or just over 20knots is where these motors are most economical,  and where these size hulls are most comfortable in your average conditions
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Originally posted by rowboat bob rowboat bob wrote:

[QUOTE=MB]Interesting. I have an FC560/115hp. At full tilt, it hits 60km/h in flat conditions. Feels very stable, although I wouldn't want to hit a big wave at this speed. It cruises comfortably on the plane at 40km/h and this of course is where fuel efficiency is at it's highest. 

 60km/h per hour is just 32 knots or 37mph . It's fast enough and all  , bur the Merc four stroke 115 should do better than that on that hull. Maybe not quite the right prop. Yeah 40km/h or just over 20knots is where these motors are most economical,  and where these size hulls are most comfortable in your average conditions

20 knots was very comfortable for us out there today. 15 or 16 would have been a comfortable speed with the old motor
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Originally posted by rowboat bob rowboat bob wrote:

[QUOTE=MB]60km/h per hour is just 32 knots or 37mph . It's fast enough and all  , bur the Merc four stroke 115 should do better than that on that hull. Maybe not quite the right prop. Yeah 40km/h or just over 20knots is where these motors are most economical,  and where these size hulls are most comfortable in your average conditions

That's interesting info, cheers. Top speed doesn't worry me really, but fuel efficiency does. I'm getting 2.2-2.4 km/L at 40km/h. How does that sound?
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Hi MB, Its sounds a little high but not drastically. At 2.3km per L at 40km/h , you are getting 1.24 Nautical miles per L at 21.6knots so 17.42 L per hour.  The Mercury website says 7.5miles per gallon at 20knots which equates to 1.72 Nautical miles per L or 11.62L per hour at 20knots .  These figures were for an American bass boat and probably on a flat lake . At 40km/h  you are going slightly faster than the 20knot figures quoted. More windage on your FC560 . Is it a hardtop ? That will further reduce efficiency. What prop have you got? I've got a stainless four bladed prop . I'm not sure about my 20knot fuel consumption,  but the overall is 10L per hour which includes all low speeds , trolling etc and a little bit of high speed . My guess is that I'm getting somewhere between 13 and 14L per hour at 20knots . 
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 Yeah , see you guys are gettin all technical now LOL, I prefer the "seat of the pants " approach to recreational fuel consumption  , I mean I know I have had a good day when I have  15-20 blue cod  , most of my terminal tackle  , Mrs is ( still ) happy  AND  my 12L tote tank is still on the happy side of half . If it was on empty  .... well Id be slightly less happy  if half a tank was the norm  but I wouldnt call it a bad day 
 Yeah , I do crunch the numbers when I driving the car ( fuel computer helps immenselyLOL here ) , but I figure that recreation is sorta based around stress relief  and thusly the fuel costs are what they need to be  to get you where you gotta go and unless they are ridiculous  your better off rolling with it  . 
Ha!  I can remember my Dad moaning when petrol went up to 25 cents / gallonShocked  he had just bought his 1st brand new car  , a Holden Brougham with a 308 ci V8 .... and it held 17 gallons ..........far out , I remember that thing towing our 20 ' boat  + Graeme Hill's builders van AND his boat  ( the van crapped out somehow ... cant remember )the last half of the  trip to Manapouri from Invervegas .   Yeah .... 2 speed powerglide .Smile
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Yep! tend to agree with you Mc tool on the technical side. I look at it a bit differently. Fuel prices although high here in N.Z aren't going to change they are just going to keep going up. If your that worried about trying to  save on fuel, your speed etc maybe your stretching the budget and get something to suit. To me fishing is one of my passions and sport and i wouldnt care wot it cost to get out for a fish and enjoy it. although my fuel bill is cheap, a 20 litre tote does me five trips. and like Mc tool usually I always catch alot of fish and big ones. Then youv'e got the other 99 % that go all over the show, out deep up the coast or wot ever looking for fish burning sometimes hundreds in fuel for bugger all. But hey as long as you enjoy fishing, your boat and outboard  wot ever size thats the main thing! $$ dont really matter if you love doing something. Beer
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Originally posted by rowboat bob rowboat bob wrote:

Hi MB, Its sounds a little high but not drastically. At 2.3km per L at 40km/h , you are getting 1.24 Nautical miles per L at 21.6knots so 17.42 L per hour.  The Mercury website says 7.5miles per gallon at 20knots which equates to 1.72 Nautical miles per L or 11.62L per hour at 20knots .  These figures were for an American bass boat and probably on a flat lake . At 40km/h  you are going slightly faster than the 20knot figures quoted. More windage on your FC560 . Is it a hardtop ? That will further reduce efficiency. What prop have you got? I've got a stainless four bladed prop . I'm not sure about my 20knot fuel consumption,  but the overall is 10L per hour which includes all low speeds , trolling etc and a little bit of high speed . My guess is that I'm getting somewhere between 13 and 14L per hour at 20knots . 

Cheers, it's a centre console and the prop is a stainless three blade. 
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And I think as you get older   breaking speed records ( to the distant hot spot Tongue) becomes less relevant and   well, I went from a 16 foot dory sort of thing with a 90hp 2/ yam    to a 14' dart with a 35hp honda ( that weighs nearly as much as the yam )  but instead of burning 20 L/hr   Im burning 2  . But then Im only going just round the corner   not all the way to Durvlile  , yeah  , there's another thing , about necessary distances travelled to get to fishing nirvana ....... in high pressure areas ( like Nelson was ) you only  have to go a wee bit further than the average ****er and your back in the fish  Big smile, so sometimes you gotta factor in a bit of distance , 
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Now that smudge has pulled trigger and gone past the point of return. Let's start talking about black anchors. (kidding)

Hopefully the 20hr service smudge doesn't roll round in that summer period when you can't book the thing in for a service! 
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Originally posted by JustAnotherSpearo JustAnotherSpearo wrote:

Now that smudge has pulled trigger and gone past the point of return. Let's start talking about black anchors. (kidding)

Hopefully the 20hr service smudge doesn't roll round in that summer period when you can't book the thing in for a service! 

I discussed that with them, they can accommodate, plan is to get 20 hours in before Xmas but we will see. It's a pretty simple service the 20 hour one
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Can you get some trolling in please Smudge?  And let us know when those big early Albacore arrive. Cheers Wink
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Originally posted by rowboat bob rowboat bob wrote:

Can you get some trolling in please Smudge?  And let us know when those big early Albacore arrive. Cheers Wink

The really big albies tend to come from Whakatane way and IMO opinion they have been and gone. I won't do fishing for them until February. Plenty around then out west & quantity beats size for me Big smile
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Yeah I've heard about the August East Coast big Albie run but have also heard about a Pre Christmas run  off the Manukau. I've never managed to get out there at that time . Hopefully this year we'll get out for a look. 
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