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I had a Merc 115 4/ Went well when the two pins at the bottom of the crank shaft that run the oil pump weren't broken but when they break it's a tow home Cry twice. After that bye bye. I don't know if they have rectified the problem. 


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[QUOTE=rowboat bob]That's just a slogan and quite likely incorrect . The fewer moving parts an engine has the more reliable it will probably be. [/QUOTE
Bro! I'm replacing an E-Tec. only two moving parts Big smile
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Call Glen at West Auckland marine, he’s the best marine tech in the country. He’ll give you a great deal on a merc and set it up right with the right prop.
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Originally posted by krow krow wrote:

I had a Merc 115 4/ Went well when the two pins at the bottom of the crank shaft that run the oil pump weren't broken but when they break it's a tow home Cry twice. After that bye bye. I don't know if they have rectified the problem. 




That's a horror story Krow! Honda guys have the best stories about longevity, reliability etc. I know a guy with a two year old Honda 250 that has had to be towed home 5 times. Each time from across the Manukau bar, every engine can go bad is how i see it
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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Originally posted by BotStomper BotStomper wrote:

My top secret excel spreadsheet says you'll need twin 300s to fit my arbitrary "well powered" definition. It's like your Mrs car driving up a hill with a boot load of shopping. Or something like that anyway, I forget. Where's a guru when you need one?



It's you, isn't it Steps?

Glad you picked up on that bit of humour, Smudge. I thought it was a great bit of wit. Nice one Botstomper!!
I miss those "well powered" lectures, overruling the motor size limits imposed by boat makers' warranties, and recommendations of Sea Nymph Challengers or whatever that ancient glass boat was...
 

Like MB, I've had a smaller Merc (4S) from new with my FC boat and it's been very reliable 6-7 years on. I had a perception that a Yamaha was the way to go, and wasn't particularly happy to have to settle for the dealer's Merc. But don't regret it. My mate has the 115 extra powered Merc on his Fi-Glass Lightning and it's a beauty - quiet, powerful and fuel efficient.
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Thanks McTool the Merc is my pic at the moment
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Just wait till February next year "Smudge" Parson outboards are releasing the 115hp,$14/15k fitted with gauges.

So which copy of Yamaha would that be?
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What dealers are near you smudge?

A mate just brought a Honda 150 which he said is great but was also close to getting a suzuki, he sea trialled a couple of boats with the suzuki and thought they exceptional heaps of torque and price was good, but dealer was further away than he would have liked.

If you go yamaha Buckland Marine are great to deal with

The local Mercury dealer is pretty quiet, haven't heard much from them or about them.
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Originally posted by out2sea out2sea wrote:

What dealers are near you smudge?

A mate just brought a Honda 150 which he said is great but was also close to getting a suzuki, he sea trialled a couple of boats with the suzuki and thought they exceptional heaps of torque and price was good, but dealer was further away than he would have liked.

If you go yamaha Buckland Marine are great to deal with

The local Mercury dealer is pretty quiet, haven't heard much from them or about them.

Buckland Marine and Counties Marine are the ones I'd most likely go with.
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Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

I had a perception that a Yamaha was the way to go, and wasn't particularly happy to have to settle for the dealer's Merc. But don't regret it. 

Same! 
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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

[QUOTE=rowboat bob]That's just a slogan and quite likely incorrect . The fewer moving parts an engine has the more reliable it will probably be. [/QUOTE
Bro! I'm replacing an E-Tec. only two moving parts Big smile   What moving parts are those Smudge ? ...The cowling and the prop when in nuetral! Big smile
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Originally posted by krow krow wrote:

I had a Merc 115 4/ Went well when the two pins at the bottom of the crank shaft that run the oil pump weren't broken but when they break it's a tow home Cry twice. After that bye bye. I don't know if they have rectified the problem. 

Sorry to hear that Krow . What year motor was that?
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Originally posted by rowboat bob rowboat bob wrote:

Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

[QUOTE=rowboat bob]That's just a slogan and quite likely incorrect . The fewer moving parts an engine has the more reliable it will probably be. [/QUOTE
Bro! I'm replacing an E-Tec. only two moving parts Big smile   What moving parts are those Smudge ? ...The cowling and the prop when in nuetral! Big smile

Hehe yeah it has no moving parts now
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Originally posted by krow krow wrote:

I had a Merc 115 4/ Went well when the two pins at the bottom of the crank shaft that run the oil pump weren't broken but when they break it's a tow home Cry twice. After that bye bye. I don't know if they have rectified the problem. 


Sheeeite , how did you pick up on that ? oil pressure warning light / buzzer  ? 
 My Honda has the most ridiculous oil pressure warning .........the feeble neon looking light stays on if there is oil pressure  but you have to cup your hands around the light to see it .... same with the temp warning . Very tempted to wire in a low pressure buzzer. 

 I saw one of them E tec motors when they were new , it had broken a rod  or piston ( not sure .... and it wasn't a good time to be asking questions Wink ) The remains of the rod had damn near cut the block in half Shocked
I wish I was young again .... Id be heaps smarter than this time
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I’ve seen and heard issues with all brands outboard motors, even brand new airplane engines have problems. No one brand is miles ahead of the others, if I was to choose an outboard based on all the issues Ive heard about, I’d be buying a set of oars and even then if you searched the internet you would find problems with them.

It just comes down to personal taste and experience. I had a 90 mercury 2s Ive worked on heaps over the years bulletproof. Under warranty so I had it serviced all good. First time out nipped up a piston. Ended up it had a new fuel pump diapharm installed which had a small hole in it. Motor was 2 years old. Mercury excepted the fault and replaced the motor with a brand new motor. Paid for the reinstall as well.

That’s what really counts when you buy an outboard, who fixes it when **** goes wrong.
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As above. Its been said a thousand times.... It really is Ford vs Holden. If you have a franchise dealer nearby... then that is the obvious choice. They all are as good as each other. But Yamaha is just that little bit better. Sorry couldn't help myself.
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Everyone is missing the biggest question of all smudge.
What motor will attract the winning carrot for the annual comp?? 
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Oil pressure alarm comes on straight away.
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Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

I’ve seen and heard issues with all brands outboard motors, even brand new airplane engines have problems. No one brand is miles ahead of the others, if I was to choose an outboard based on all the issues Ive heard about, I’d be buying a set of oars and even then if you searched the internet you would find problems with them.

It just comes down to personal taste and experience. I had a 90 mercury 2s Ive worked on heaps over the years bulletproof. Under warranty so I had it serviced all good. First time out nipped up a piston. Ended up it had a new fuel pump diapharm installed which had a small hole in it. Motor was 2 years old. Mercury excepted the fault and replaced the motor with a brand new motor. Paid for the reinstall as well.

That’s what really counts when you buy an outboard, who fixes it when **** goes wrong.

100% agree.  I had a 50hp Mercury and I really rated that motor. It had a few problems but when it finally died it was after I scooped up a whole lot of pumice in the Waikato River and nipped up the motor. One of the easiest motors to maintain but it had a design fault in that it didn't have a voltage regulator. When I bought it it had the wrong battery fitted. The first long run I did it cooked everything. As a sparky i worked out what the problem was. For a $50 part that outboard would have been bullet proof

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Hi Krow , That is the earlier model Mercury which was a rebadged Tohatsu, and is completely different from the current Mercury model which is the one we are talking about , which is from 2016 onwards.  Those people saying all the motors are the same or similar,  haven't realised that the latest Mercury motors are actually quite different from all the Yamaha's , Suzuki's and Hondas. These Japanese motors are all using a smaller cylinder displacement 1600 to 1800cc or so with multi valves resulting in heavier motors, that are working harder to produce the horsepower . The Mercury 115 a fuel injected 2.1L without the multivalves which results in a motor that is both lighter and more powerful,  with lower servicing costs and greater reliability through less moving parts . 
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