The decline of Editorial Oversite in NZ Media

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    Posted: 11 May 2023 at 6:52am
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I have noticed a rapid decline in the standard of editorial oversite, let alone the massive decline in quality of reporting, within the NZ print media and especially with the NZ Herald. Saw this in this morning's NZ Herald, can you spot what is fundamentally wrong.

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It's just a case of not enough 'others'.
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It's what you would expect to see with rounding to one decimal place of the results, personally I'd have tweaked the "others" category to make it look better -but I'm fussy like that.
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So is National in the lead or the red party?
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I guess the question is are they colour blind, stupid or being deliberately confusing?
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Wife is a former journalist and is horrified at the number of mistakes made in both print and screen news reporting - seems every night she's correcting the bad grammar used in the news. Her old sub-editor would be turning in his grave.
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Hahaha I looked at that and couldn't see what you were on about until Moots answered. Red for National Blue for Labour. Pretty good for NZ Herald standards. Yes there has been a huge decline
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Sufishent I write a lot of reports, my grammar and spelling is not the best, but it is way better than most of these opinion writers, can't call them journalists anymore.
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Is this a mistake or done on purpose, looks like someone trying to hide the results to me.
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Originally posted by Marligator Marligator wrote:

..... it is way better than most of these opinion writers, can't call them journalists anymore.

Missus says exactly the same thing - does her head in with all the opinion "reporting"
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Im more shocked that 2.6 % of the population are voting for Winston again. He's burnt every bridge in Parliament and been ruled out as a partner by every other party leader.
Why won't he simply just go away?
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Originally posted by Schampy Schampy wrote:

Im more shocked that 2.6 % of the population are voting for Winston again. He's burnt every bridge in Parliament and been ruled out as a partner by every other party leader.
Why won't he simply just go away?

I cannot understand why Labour is still that high. Wacko
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Originally posted by v8-coupe v8-coupe wrote:

Originally posted by Schampy Schampy wrote:

Im more shocked that 2.6 % of the population are voting for Winston again. He's burnt every bridge in Parliament and been ruled out as a partner by every other party leader.
Why won't he simply just go away?


I cannot understand why Labour is still that high. Wacko
because they bribe their voter base, $166k spent on warriors tickets given to people so they would fill out their census forms. Who many of them were given to national voters.

I can’t understand how people vote for the greens, all those green voters in ponsonby sitting in their multi million dollar homes and the greens want to bring in a wealth tax. They will be the ones who will get smashed by the new tax but they still vote for the greens. Madness
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My god.... if theres is a Labour,greens, Maori  co-lab it will be pretty much the final straw for a lot of people. 
I love this country.... But watching it getting torn to bits by these complete f-ckwits is truly heartbreaking. 

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Well, first, editorial/typographical/grammatic standards are poor but have been for quite a while.  Example, the "Grauniad".

Secondly, technical accuracy has been a bit crap for decades.  I have had input to a number of engineering-related articles in NZ media in the last few decades and, well, you just give up: you say this, "they" are not technical at all and write "that", and chinese whispers etc etc/  What comes out comes out.

Finally, a bit surprised from teh general comments on this forum that NZ First is not polling higher :).  Nor ACT

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Originally posted by v8-coupe v8-coupe wrote:

Originally posted by Schampy Schampy wrote:

Im more shocked that 2.6 % of the population are voting for Winston again. He's burnt every bridge in Parliament and been ruled out as a partner by every other party leader.
Why won't he simply just go away?

I cannot understand why Labour is still that high. Wacko

Probably a lot to do with a lack of decent alternatives.  Looks like another election of voting for the least bad party, don't think there is a best.
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Originally posted by Kevin.S Kevin.S wrote:

[QUOTE=v8-coupe]Probably a lot to do with a lack of decent alternatives
The Tamaki couple (Destiny) starting up their own party.... yeah boi   
Will be interesting how that turns out.... might be another 5% king maker in the making
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Originally posted by BananaBoat BananaBoat wrote:

Originally posted by Kevin.S Kevin.S wrote:

[QUOTE=v8-coupe]Probably a lot to do with a lack of decent alternatives
The Tamaki couple (Destiny) starting up their own party.... yeah boi   
Will be interesting how that turns out.... might be another 5% king maker in the making

I saw that, an umbrella coalition of disaffected loonies, is there enough tin foil in NZ for this lot?
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Whatever side of the political compass you lie on, it's important to try and emphasise with the other side. You may disagree on policy or implementation but as soon as we start identifying too much with a political party and calling the other side f-wits, we may as well move to the States, as that's what we become. 

For the record I tend to vote left wing, but not too far left, as I work in education. Te Parti Maori for example has some pretty bad ideas in their education policy mixed in with a few good. ACT has some good ideas in theirs mixed with some bad. Both I assume mean well, and legitimately think that their policies will help the country. Both are probably partly wrong, based on my experience in a classroom. 


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The Heralds website is littered with spelling errors…
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