Not much I can say to the original poster except "ba ha ha ha ha ha ha ha , good one noddy"

Lethal wrote: thinking back to when we never had all the above gadjets, we caught way more fish then than now, we had no limit on any fish at all, then the the Labour Government "David Lang" did the dirty on us and GAVE the fish "Long story short" to the fishing companies, when the first sounders come out, it was after World War 2, My Uncle owned the Florence Kennedy the sounder was a round ring which bleeped every time it found fish,  charter those days would be with 20 to 30 fishermen all with handlines and a woven sack to keep your fish in, no plastic bags back then. within a few year the fish were being screwed by Fishing companies demanding more fish from their boats, now it was getting serous, less fish, we copped it fair between the eyes within a span of about 20 years we had a reduction in snapper from no  restrictions to 60 to 30 to 20 to 15 to 10/9 to now 7  all because the Fishing companies could not catch the allocation they had been given fast enough, my Grandfather was a excellent fisherman, we had a clinker built boat with a Seagull on the back, we went no further out than Browns Bay reef, we lined up everything via land marks then dropped the anchour. i continually fished like this till i was 40 years old infact my land marks were so accurate i never need any gadgets until i started working for fishing tackle company now i had to venture further away from AK hence the reason i first started using them and i believe this is were they come into there own... if you need any proof of my above story say so i will put up photos so you can see for your self.

Excellent Lethal, I'm definately out of your Grandfathers mould, i putt out in me little boat, couple of bucks of gas. Sometimes less than a K out, never more than three, use my same landmarks everytime and look at the results i get! Cheers.

Imagine ----if the Ocean going Tuna fleets had no technology. How many more Marlin & Tuna would you be landing this season.

Of if Ernest Hemmingway had fishfinders in his day would he have ever been able to write" The old man of the sea "in such detail from experience .

It was a stupid question and I reacted accordingly because fish finders (sounders) do more than just find fish.  For me, it is a question of being safe on the water and I like to be able to see at a glance how much water I have under my boat at any given time. 
Also, it is useful to know whether the water depth is going shallower or deeper and if I am getting close to a pin or not.  And then of course there is bottom composition....
So sorry, Cpt Pugwash, you lost me at the first hurdle...

Pug - if you really want to make some new friends, go to Bingo!

cirrus wrote: Imagine ----if the Ocean going Tuna fleets had no technology. How many more Marlin & Tuna would you be landing this season. Of if Ernest Hemmingway had fishfinders in his day would he have ever been able to write" The old man of the sea "in such detail from experience .

Oh lawdy! 

Hey guys take it easy on poor old Pugwash. I'm sure he has taken all the electronics off his little boat. I use my FF to find fish but more often to see where I'm going. I reckon the sooner we go back to paper charts and sextants the better!

I think this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to fisheries management, the sooner we ban rods and reels the better. I think we should all be using cat gut handlines that were popular when I was a kid. My sister is a hardcore cat lover, any ideas on how I can break the bad news to her?

Why not even ban boats? I'm all for it, my boat costs me a fortune. You ask the big questions Pugwash and there is going to be some soul searching going on in the forums tonight.

Hey, I got a better idea! Let's ban all forms of fishing. And hunting! Wouldn't the world be better off if we were all vegans?

I'm in! I'm on the journey to a better future, who is joining me?

Absolutely! Man this is an enlightening thread. Tomorrow I'm throwing out my radar detector! I've never even had a speeding ticket in my boat.

I think you better think of the electronic firms that help sponsor this site before you go opening that can of worms smudge....