Reel Deal wrote: .....NZ has a MMP voting system.... The old first past the post was as unfair as the yanks system. Say National got 30% labour 29% act 12% greens 20% nz first 9% New Zealand would have been governed by a party 70% of kiwis didn’t vote to lead them. Very unfair...

Biden has used teleprompters and earpieces,in the last debate he apparently was using an ipad....not that it matters anyway. I've seen videos from a few sources that show biden inappropriately putting his hands all over kids in photo ops,the guy is just creepy. "If you don't vote for biden,your not black" is one line he used lol. It's a total shet show and so entertaining to see unfold. I'm glad I don't live in America,cause whoever wins,there will be mass riots and insurrection all over america. Not good at all.

fish-feeder wrote: Rozboon wrote: If you believe the laptop thing, I have a bridge I can do you a really good, one-off deal on? The evidence looks pretty real to me,and bidens reaction to trump asking him about it in the last debate says even more. I don't care who wins,but having a guy that speaks unintelligible sentences at rally's and sniffs kids is not someone I'd trust to run any country lol.

There's more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese, yes, Hunter flew 4500 miles across the US to use some ****hole strip-mall computer repair shop to look at his "water damaged" Macbook, which was full of incriminating evidence but had no protection whatsoever... that he then just clean forgot to pick up... and damn was he unlucky that the random computer repair shop he chose to go to just happened to be owned by a massive Trump supporter? The entire thing is just so ****ing bizarre that you have to literally suspend disbelief to even start to think that it's credible.

This is a guy that is supposedly taking millions of dollars in backhanders and at the same time is using a $85 laptop repair shop (ha, even the price is unbelievable) in the middle of nowhere, instead of getting his EA or whatever to arrange it with someone?

Congratulations, you've been suckered by a disinformation piece. If you think the evidence looks "pretty real" you need to broaden your information sources.

fish-feeder wrote: in this day and age of deep fakes and media spin, who knows what's really going on behind the scenes.

You're 100% correct there, it's an absolute shocker trying to get to the bottom of anything to do with the US at the moment... the entire country has become so partisan that everything is twisted to suit someone's agenda.

fish-feeder wrote: Rozboon wrote: fish-feeder wrote: in this day and age of deep fakes and media spin, who knows what's really going on behind the scenes. You're 100% correct there, it's an absolute shocker trying to get to the bottom of anything to do with the US at the moment... the entire country has become so partisan that everything is twisted to suit someone's agenda. I just hope the far left Marxist antifa thing doesn't make its way down here,cancel culture and erasing history never works out well,and it's playing out in the USA, politics,pandemic,race baiting......again....all shown or supressed by the media,and their agenda.

My opinion only but it's a result of a bigger polarisation of politics; increased tribalism and an "us versus them" philosophy that has had petrol thrown on it by the current administration. The U in USA is pretty ironic right now.

I think/hope that NZ is a long long way off such things - what passes for mainstream political ideology in the US is widely regarded as pretty wacky/extreme here. NZ is, by and large, still fairly politically moderate - both Labour and National are pretty centrist after all.

new handle MEGA Mossy haha. The right us just as bad and their proud boys, militia. Where lieing, deflecting and standing over countries for political advantage and corruption is the new normal. They are all the same slugging it out for power and money. Nothing to do with saving the environment, and helping citizens have healthy happy lives. 

Quite interesting watched a program on the 2003 Iraqi war on how Bush and co used the same language over and over to incite fear and revenge within the US.

Then he won the election with a landslide in 04.

Sound familiar?

The American voting system is like MMP with its design not allowing big populated states not running rough rule over the smaller ones.
You will know the result by the Ohio count.

Biden is a mess to be honest,he thought he was talking to george bush,called trump bush .. uses a teleprompter,forgets what he is talking about...fondles minors....His daughter released her diary recently...very sad state of affairs. I don't like trump,but I don't think biden has the mental capacity to get through the day let alone dig the USA out if the mess it's in. "If you don't vote for biden,you're not black" :Joe Biden ....unreal lol

FF really BLM is a terrorist group Burning and looting? From the footage I saw from every news channel except trumps spin news channel I saw multi national people of all ages with families and babies marching peacefully in most main cities around the world. Lewis Hamilton is a terrorist ? Madonna, Dolly Parton ?. Really ?