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Originally posted by Capt Asparagus Capt Asparagus wrote:

I think it is telling that previous republican presidents have said they intend to vote for Clinton......

Because they're also part of the war machine.
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 Big money in wars.Without wars the Americans would go broke ..Clinton will most likely win ,but its close so you never know whose ears they pull out of the hat ...Dr Yeckel or Mss Hyde 
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Originally posted by mowerman mowerman wrote:

 Big money in wars.Without wars the Americans would go broke

How does that work? Wars might make the money go around internally, but they are still a massive drain on public finances. Look at history and even the winners normally come out of a war with massive public debt. 
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I am so very much looking forward to this all being over.

My husband is American and it is just about all anyone has tried to make small talk with him about for so long now, I would have lost it hahah. He's been here nearly 10 years but there's no escaping that accent.
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Only just clicked to something funny about US politics. Unlike the whole of the rest of the world, their conservative party (right wing) is coloured red and their liberal party (left wing) is coloured blue. My guess is that their coastguard service chose the colours. That will explain why their red and green navigation markers are the reverse of the international standards as well. Had a US hire customer earlier this year who does skipper training back in the US. He took great delight in taking photos of our nav bouys so he could take them back to confuse his students with.
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Just hope the election goes well and they get the right outcome.

American people are great people and deserve the best.

But whatever the outcome ,whoever gets in has to face a Nuclear Nth Korea, a broke ,money printing economy,and a broke deutshe bank. If deutshe bank goes belly up ,with trillions of off balance sheet derivatives then expect the biggest storm of our life time.
As for the war machine. Other countries have them too. Take that balance away and we would see aggression from the remaining war machines to fill the gap.
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Originally posted by Tagit Tagit wrote:

Originally posted by mowerman mowerman wrote:

 Big money in wars.Without wars the Americans would go broke


How does that work? Wars might make the money go around internally, but they are still a massive drain on public finances. Look at history and even the winners normally come out of a war with massive public debt. 


Other peoples wars and even their own. All weapons/munitions manufacturers are selling to both sides of all conflicts around the world, including terrorist groups, while claiming not to be. Many politicians have big investments in the armaments industry. There is an old saying, forgive me if I do not get it 100% correct. "When there is blood on the ground there is money to be made".
Their country may go broke, however their personal bank accounts will be filled to over flowing.
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Suddenly its a real nail biter. Markets responding. Gold soars,Wall St futures down and Nato puts 300 000 extra troops on high alert over perceived  Russian threat to Baltic states .
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There was/is some famous prediction from the past that says that the USA getting it's first black president is an indicator that the world is going to end (somehow). What the prediction didn't foresee was that it would happen when he left office. How can any sane person vote Trump into power? It defies belief!!!
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Well, it looks as if they have. Un-frikken-be-frikken-lievable

It seems that we are likely to be living "in interesting times" for the next few years now.
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Not so sure about the 'living' part once DT gets his finger on the nuclear trigger. I am sitting here is staggering disbelief that the US people could be so frickin stupid. Even if they like some of his supposed policies, do they really expect him to carry through with anything that doesn't enhance the personal world of D Trump??? DT in the US and Putin in Russia - scary, scary times.
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Trump going to..least the wars will be scale back..ttpa.in the bin
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Ah well poor Bill won't get laid any time soon, unless he pulls old stunts LOL
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A new outlook on the world front..and about time..
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wonder if he makes good on his promise to throw hillary in jail
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Yahoo,

Trump needs correction.

But the people need to rid career politicians.

Hope the people win and the trump can step up.
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Originally posted by MATTOO MATTOO wrote:


Hope the people win and the trump can step up.

He's going to have to step up after he gets through his fraud trial in November where it's alleged he ripped off thousands of said people, by running a bait and switch scam university.

But maybe the Universe will be turned on it's head and a corrupt businessman will become an 'honest' politician.
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Like one American said. "He may not be the right man to preach the message, however he is preaching the right message". Apparently the majority wanted to hear that message. Also bear in mind, nuch like here, the media is owned and controled by big money. Many outlets in the States did exactly what was done here. Kept on saying Clinton was a shoe in. in the hopes many would not bother voting. That sort of tactic works well in NZ. It seems this time in the States it did not work. There may still be hope for us down under. By the way, the National Party used the American elections as a distraction/cover to reach another shonky back door deal with the Maori party in regards the the RMA. Those via an accident of birth will now have even more say over what the rest of NZ does. Not to mention the pay packets for doing nothing. Perhaps this is an example of why the Don got the nod. Back door dealls done by dodgy politicians to get dodgy legislation passed. The times, they are a changing. However, as usual, good old NZ is approximately twenty years behind the rest of the world.
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