Slow jigging rod recommendations please?

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    Posted: 21 Aug 2018 at 10:17am
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Hi All,

I have recently lost or had my light jigging rods stolen, so I am in the market for 2 new rods.

I am mainly fishing at the top of the South, around Durville and the Marlborough Sounds.

I have an AVET SXJ 5.3 reel, which is a bloody awesome wee reel, that needs a new partner (running PE 2).

And I also have a Shimano Stradic 3000C that is also a very solid little reel, needing a new rod to pair up with (running PE 1.2). 

Ideally I want an OH rod that will handle the heavier slow jigs (130 -240 g range in deeper water 60-100 m), and a lighter softbait/micro jig rod to handle the lighter jigging (up to 90/100g) and softbait applications.

What say you?

Thanks in advance.
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My Kaveman Tackle range of slow jig rods(SJ 651M) would be perfect for the weights you recommend.
I also have 2 models of softbait/ micro jig rods . Both are great for either form of fishing. 4-7kg (M) rod handles micro jigs to 30g easily and the 5-9kg (MH) model will handle jigs to 45g.
Both rods are made from top quality Japanese toray carbon with nano composites, all fuji sic guides and fuji reelseats etc
Both rods shipped would be just over $500
Let me know if i can help further
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Originally posted by boomduggie boomduggie wrote:

Hi All,

...and a lighter softbait/micro jig rod to handle the lighter jigging (up to 90/100g) and softbait applications.


Not telling you how to suck eggs, I hope, but I'll offer a note of caution that most true soft bait rods aren't designed to fish weights of 90-100g - more like 7-28/35g. 
And as Kaveman has pointed out here and in a few other threads, micro jigs are just that - small jigs. 

I don't think you'd get good performance out of a true soft baiting rod with 100g dangling on the end. 

In the soft baiting forum there is a good thread about rod recommendations, and Kaveman's got a lot of fans for his micro jig rods.

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Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

Originally posted by boomduggie boomduggie wrote:

Hi All,

...and a lighter softbait/micro jig rod to handle the lighter jigging (up to 90/100g) and softbait applications.


Not telling you how to suck eggs, I hope, but I'll offer a note of caution that most true soft bait rods aren't designed to fish weights of 90-100g - more like 7-28/35g. 
And as Kaveman has pointed out here and in a few other threads, micro jigs are just that - small jigs. 

I don't think you'd get good performance out of a true soft baiting rod with 100g dangling on the end. 

In the soft baiting forum there is a good thread about rod recommendations, and Kaveman's got a lot of fans for his micro jig rods.



Very true, easy way to break a rod. The 5-9kg sb/ micro rods are very powerful BUT i wouldnt attempt to cast 100g jigs on them. Our slow jig rods are great for 100g jigs as well as handling jigs to 200g plus. This blank is rated to 15kg
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Just a note on that TTK, to be clear i'm not at all saying a softbait rod is going to work slow jigs to 100g better than a specialist slow jig rod. With that being said ratings on softbait rods of 28g, 35g etc are generally a cast weight rating.
There's a big difference between dropping a 80g lure straight down below the boat and working it slowly vs trying to cast out 80g with a softbait rod rated to 28 or 35g.
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understand completely, Fishy.
I just found that when I went heavier than a 2oz Cyclops style weight with my soft bait rod in the Gulf work ups on charters (basically lobbed a little ahead, or dropped straight down) the rod didn't work the way I wanted it to.
So I reverted to a 100-200g jig rod for that kind of fishing, meant I could get good feel with Cyclops lead heads of 2-4oz, and metal jigs of similar weight.
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Thanks for all the responses so far, I understand that the weights quoted in my OP, might be a bit hefty for a genuine soft bait setup, and in all reality, if I'm going that heavy, the OH set should probably cope with that weight range.

With that in mind, are there any more suggestions on an OH rod to pair with my AVET reel? Thanks kaveman for your suggestion - I'm interested in your rods, and if anyone has any experience with them, please speak up? I'm just trying to do my best to explore all the options available to me... I'm one of those people who likes to research things to the n-th degree before pulling the trigger on something. But also, I'd like to decide sooner rather then later - there's a few good looking weather windows coming up!

Also, on the softbait or micro jig spin rod - what is peoples advice here? Am I best to go for a genuine softbait rod? knowing that it should handle very light slow jigs, but maybe not all of what I might need (hopefully the other set will cover me). Or should I go for a micro jig rod with a higher (lure) weight range, which might not be sensitive enough for soft baiting??

As much as I'd love to have a dedicated set for every application, I really can't justify buying 3 rods right now, especially when the insurance only covered one of the lost rods (due to excess and depreciation  Cry)!!
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I reckon two rods should cover the applications you want.

1.  An overhead to match your OH reel for the 100g+ slow jigs and yo-yo jigs, with a mid range that covers your likely most-used weights. That's likely to be in the 6'4"-6'7" length.

2. An 8' or thereabouts softbait/micro jig rod for casting weights 7-40g.e.g Kaveman's specialist rods for that purpose.

Read this thread re the softbait/micro rods, and some recommendations. Kaveman talks about his recommended rod lengths for micro jigging.


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We all do things a bit differently Smile

As for rod choice, it depends what I want to achieve. I regularly use a "softbait" rod for slow pitch jigging with jigs up to 100g. It's a light rod, but has a fast action. As others have said, I don't cast 100g jigs, they are lowered vertically in to the water. I like this rod because I can work those jigs very nicely with it, drives the snapper nuts! It's obviously my softbait rod as well. All of this is very dependent on the specific rod. Working 100g jigs on an ultralight rod, or something with a sloppy action isn't going to work.

I also have an Ocean Angler Bender which has a slow action and a super soft tip. It's not great for working slow pitch jigs, but it's awesome for lock and load inchiku/kabura fishing. 

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Old thread I know. Any recommendations for heavier slow pitch rods to suit up to 300g jigs?
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Originally posted by Crochet Cast Crochet Cast wrote:

Old thread I know. Any recommendations for heavier slow pitch rods to suit up to 300g jigs?


Check the Ocean Legacy rods, i have heard great things about them.
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Thanks Kaveman. I’ll check them out.
What’s the consensus of long fall v slow pitch rods?
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quite simply, Longfall is same as yoyo jigging and quite different technique to the more technical Slow Pitch.  Rods are longer too as this lifts the jig higher in the water column for a longer descent. 
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