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I have just serviced my boat - 50 hp, something I do every two years as I dont travel far or do mega hours - probably 20 trips at an hour or a little more each. I know a guy that just had his boat serviced a Yamaha 90 on it, and it cost him $375. He only uses the boat about 6 or 7 times a year and a typical trip for him is from Half Moon Bay to Rakino so I'm guessing about 20 hours a year is all he does. Some things like steering and prop shaft lube are best done annually even if your boat doesnt see a lot of water but really on a per hour basis this thing will be costing him a fortune. What do you guys do as far as servicing goes? Do you service on a yearly basis or hours work done?
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smudge if i do 100hrs it go's in for a service..... if like this year i haven't even knocked up the 100hrs but done 56hrs its going in anyway...... so yea i wont leave it any longer than 12mths.....
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My boat is a 1996 with a motor of about the same age so I always get it serviced just before Labour weekend and again just befor easter...only costs about $100 but means the Brenda dosnt have to go out and get a job to feed the family if Im lost at sea...This year Im takeing it in next week as I need to replace the Radio so will have it serviced at the same time
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I think I have done around 6 hours so far and I have lubed every nipple I can see. What do I need to do to service the steering?

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If I was you I would have it serviced once a year by the ajent for the motor...Just imajin being swept towards the heads with night coming on...worth the $$$
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Serviced every year just before the start of the game season. I have averaged 100 hours a year for the last 3 years. This time around the service will be in Febuary as I havent done the full 100 hours. So I'm going to leave it until just before Hohoura.

A service is around $300 to $400 depending on what I have done. So at $350 or $3.50 per hour its not to bad

 

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We average 50 to 60 hours per year. We stick to the regular service plans, 50 and 100 hours, so this usually means a 50 hour service every first year and a 100 hour service every second year. Try to get it done in spring.

Having it serviced at least once a year is important no matter how many hours it has done.

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Naki,

What make of outboard do you have ? I checked my service manual and it says every 100 hours or yearly, what ever comes first. I have never heard of 50 hours one year the 100 then 50

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Bushie.

This was on our old boat which had a Mariner, a 50 hr was a minor service and 100 hr a major. I think the idea was just to get your motor looked at at least once a year.

 

Our new boat has a Yammie, but not sure about the service plan.

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Every year without doubt 100hrs or less. Beginning of November ready for the season, the cost is usually around $500 for a Merc 150 EFI, the bottom end gets removed and serviced also for that cost ..........well worth the money especialy if your out 40 miles off Tutukaka or 30 miles off the Manukau heads. I also take the cover off regularly and spray the motor with marine grade CRC.

Also about May I change out all the spark plugs which rust slightly between the isolator pot and the metal screw boss which causes a misfire.

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A full service (including new plugs irrespective of condition) in the spring (or Oct/Nov). These plugs are expensive units. A second service Autumn. Only change the plugs if getting knackered at this service. Generally they last well, depending on the game season, ie how often one can get out. Service usually $300-400. Trailer gets the warrant done at these times too. Also a good time to strip out all the crap that one accumulates in the boat.
Batteries, wiring and cables are all checked at these times also. Cheers.

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I have a 1988 85hp motor which still runs like a dream with regular annual services but I learnt an expensive lesson this winter. The bottom end obviously had not been removed for a while and the studs had to be drilled out to replace the impeller (water pump). The labour alone came to over $500. How do you avoid that kind of mistake? Ask to have the bottom end removed as a matter of course during your annual service?

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Keith,

       A full service should cover the bottom end also, but ask to have it included.

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Yeah I would be concerned about that Keith especially if he has been charging you for a water pump service. All bolts and the prop shaft should be pretected against corrossion during reassembly. That is one of the main reasons for servicing every year regardless of the hours.
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It is not the current mechanic as the previous one has moved away from where I live. All I can say is that it is no good just asking for a 'service' or 'full service', if your expectations and the actual delivery differ. As in my case, you only find out about the problem when it is too late.

As AC commented, he would expect the bottom end to be covered. But do we assume that the water pump is serviced because the bottom end is covered? Take it further, would you expect the gearbox oil to be replaced or only checked? Does this go back to Naki's comment about a 50 hr vs. 100 hr service or, as in the motor industry minor/lube service vs. major service?

If the boating industry is at the same level of disparity as the motor industry, maybe we, as forum members, can specify what we see as the minimum for a service and take that as our list to the mechanic at quote time. Any comments from someone charging for this type of work would also be welcome.

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Keith,

        Given the nature of an outboard's work enviroment it is in the best interest of any outboard service provider to make sure everything is checked and then reported to the owner for autherisation of any further work needed, when a car goes in for a 10000K service it would be unlikley that they wouldn't check the brakes, grease the drive shaft and change the oil. I'm a mechanic by trade but I've not worked as that for many years therfore know most of the rorts some guy's pull. When it comes to my outboard I still pay to have it serviced and ask for the "once over" by a service provider that I and most of my mates use. The water pump is more important than the fuel to run the motor, and as you said when you find out there's a problem it's generally too late and you're in the sh*t as it were ! I don't know where you live but I'd be happy to supply the name of the outfit that does all ours.

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Hi guys,

Surely, if your motor is taken to an authorised service centre and they perform a service based on the service book and they sign off the serivce as being completed, then everything should be fine. If it is not, then any problems should be theirs to fix.

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Yes Naki, I agree with your point in question for late model motors which can be taken to the authorised agents and signed off.

With the change in ownership of the brands and the demise of certain ones, 'authorisation' becomes an issue. With the brand I have got, the nearest authorised dealer for another brand says they only work on their own brand because of the possible difficulty in getting spares (Their excuse, not mine!).

Also, I know a few people who use mobile marine mechanics who come to you and it is often more convenient than towing to the service centres.

With a motor of my vintage or a second-hand rig, you don't (and often can't) necessarily get a service book.

The point I was trying to make is that we cannot take anything for granted and need to be specific in what we want and expect to have done - preferably in writing.

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2001 Yamaha 200HPDI. I do about 180-200 hours /year and have had it serviced reiligously every 100hrs. Last year even took a day off from the Nationals to have it serviced in Whangarei when it hit 105 hours. Next sevice was only six weeks later! Normally looking at about $500. I have been rewarded with zero problems mechanically which, as I fish quite a lot 30-40 miles offshore where I can't even see New Zealand, is very reassuring. My hours meter currently says 387 and I will almost certainly get it done just before Xmas so I can tackle at least the first half of the game season without having to worry. Not worth skimping on the servicing - especially if you only have one engine (which I do)

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