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    Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 9:21am
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Unfortunately, Im running out of puff, ie energy, as I get older. 8 years ago, when I started fishing off Whangaparaoa, I stayed out for 5-6 hours. Now, I stay 3 hours and generally feel very tired at the end. 

I thought how about talk it over with fishing mates on fishing.net. Heres my ideas.

Winding the boat back on the trailer takes a lot of energy. I have started using an electric cordless drill to turn the winch. Took three attempts to get it right, but now it works well. See my post to this topic. 

I generally anchor, and put berley down. But that attracts hordes off tiddlers ( as well as the occasional keeper), that demolish any bait put down. So there is a huge effort required to wind up and rebait. I have decided I think to mostly drift, without berley. This avoids attracting a lot of tiddlers, so reduces the effort. See my earlier post on this topic.

Another thing - I dont clean the boat and fish until next morning. Because I am too tired to enjoy. I put whole fish into a chilly bin with ice. I think that works ok. I know some swear by putting fillets in the frig same day, but after over 500 meals of snapper, I have not noticed any noticeable deterioration. And the boat - next day the motor gets a flush with fresh water followed by salt attack. 

I have joined the Golden Years fishing club (Hibiscus Coast), that arranges charter fishing trips. I hope it provides a worthwhile alternative to running my own boat. I went on a charter from Gulf Harbour, on Skipjack. Unfortunately, as the new chum (and last there) I was put at the front on one side. During the day, fishing was extremely good - the 3 guys across the back caught most (good snapper), then the bods along the side (caught a few), then me, caught one just big enough (in 5 hours fishing!). What a waste of my time. The Fishing Club allocates places by ballot, which I think is fair. 

Come on you guys, its not hard, post!!
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I take a mate of mine out who 75 all he does is hold the boat and bring the lunch.

I live in Stanmore bay and there’s plenty of room in my boat if you’re good at baking or cooking.

Got to be good at catching fish as well because we are crap at that haha, send me a pm.
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i know how you feel i am 80 and have stuffed lungs. Have been fishing today in my own boat and i am too exhausted to fillet my fish will do that tomorrow but as hard as it is i wash the boat, trailer and flush the motor when i get home ,i think if you leave it to the next day it is too late. for years i have had an electric winch with a remote on the trailer makes retrieving easy. i do not anchor i only fish soft baits and jigs and i sit down to fish caught a 65cm snapper today in 50meters and needed a rest when i finally got it in the boat,do not want to catch kingfish that would be too hard.
so my advice keep fishing as long as you  can, just have to have lots of rests and not catch too many big fish
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I am taking son and neighbour out tomorrow. I won't fish. 2 rods is enough in 40-50m which is where they are supposed to be right now. Neigbour has his own boat, but basically is past it. Last few times he beached launched turned to custard, and they were decent days. Today I managed ot rescue a cray pot of his that had been out for weeks. Happy to get it back.
I am not a whole lot younger than my neighbour, but last I checked I am better shape.
Hopefully for a while yet.
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By the way, I'm 81.
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73 here. Think my neighbour is heading to 80.
I am still game fishing solo, and beach launching solo. Who knows how long that will continue.
But when you think life expectancy 50 yrs ago was around 60-65, we ain't doing too bad with the bonus years.
Make the most of them, I reckon. I visisted a mate a few days ago - he is 82 and spends most of the day on the couch with his i pad. His wife was so happy to see me - highlight of the day apparently.
Some folks at this age are probably filling in the day with scrabble. I prefer this lifestyle.
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Originally posted by letsgetem letsgetem wrote:

By the way, I'm 81.
Find a semi retired fisher person,they can do the winching,its all in trailer set up,smooth rollers etc
"Times up"
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I'm 71ish. My wife and I  Usually run a small open boat out from the half moon bay public boat ramp.  I used to have a Yamaha f25 manual trim, tilt and start.  Had the boat and engine for 24 odd years.  Just re-powered with a new Yamaha f25 with electric tilt, trim and start.  Makes a huge difference to boat utility.  Only go out on week days now.  Out at daylight, back by lunchtime.  I have a light boat so winching it on to the trailer is no problem - yet.

The cleanup gets me a little though.  Have to push the boat up a 9% incline to get it in the shed.  Will have to do something about that soon, probably a winch mount on the floor of the garage.

We are trying to get out about once a fortnight at the moment.  Getting out more than once a week is too hard.  It usually takes  about two to three days to prep the boat for the next trip but after that it is stored ready to go.   

On the plus side it is cheaper to run the boat for a mornings fishing (8 - 10 litres of fuel and whatever bait we have in the freezer) than to share a cafe breakfast between us.

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I guess I'm a spring chicken at 58. I can easily launch and retrieve the 6m hardtop by myself - especially if there's a pontoon by the ramp.  And for beach launching Shelly has got pretty good at driving the boat while I get the trailer etc. and retrieval gota lot easier once I put guide poles on the trailer.

Despite this I have relatively recently gone up in size to a Rayglass 4000 (40 ft launch) and we are loving the walk on /walk off aspect as well as using it as a floating bach when the weather is good (i.e. go away for impromptu overnight trips round Kawau, Waiheke etc. and we spent 5 days based in Tutukaka early Feb).  The bigger boat costs more to run but it means we go out in a broader range of weather, stay out longer and are a lot less fatigued at the end of the day.  The "logic" is that I'm spending on diesel rather than accomodation and we can make impromptu calls to go out overnight etc.  And it means I can occasionally take more people out - e.g. last Saturday I took 6 of my coastguard volunteer crew out for the day (didn't catch much - Flat Rock was quiet, fished a few workups too).  I had never had 6 fishing off the boat before but the cockpit and duckboard worked well (sea was so calm we fired the BBQ up while out at Flat Rock).

I'll keep doing the launch thing until I decide it's too expensive ... and then maybe downsize again.


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You are a spring chicken. Lots to look foward to. You have so much good accessible sheltered boating water available, that boat makes lots of sense - to me at least. Now you just need some outrigger poles  Smile
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It's got Kraken outriggers fitted already ...  Tongue

We trolled for a couple of the days while based in Tutukaka (and went out to the Poor Knights for a swim with the fish - that place is awesome).  

Last weekend I spent Saturday taking the Coastguard folks out on Saturday and then as we were leaving Kawau I messaged Shelly to see if she wanted to meet at the marina and go out overnight.  Answer was yes - so after dropping the blokes off the two of us headed down to Waiheke for the night  (ended up anchoring in man O'War Bay).  Sunday we caught a couple of snapper and a reasonable trevally and then as we cruised back past Rakino we saw a HUGE bust-up - something big and silver was leaping out of the water as birds worked around it ... so I trolled some lures but we only got a kahawai.
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Awesome - an aquatic camper van. Perfect.
I live in the wrong place for such a boat - wild coast and bugger all shelter. Long way between berths.
Make the most of it. Make some memories.
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Similar problem here (71).  Mainly because i have some genetic insistence to go out before dawn and I cant sleep properly the night before. Solo on tinny, 4-5 hours fishing max, get back, ask wife to clean boat, told to f**k off, clean up, fillet normally next day (all iced nicely), fall asleep by 7pm.  Need a day to recover. Better than farting round at home though

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Originally posted by letsgetem letsgetem wrote:

....Golden Years fishing club (Hibiscus Coast)....

Might be moving up that way if we can find a house.  Maybe join up and see you there then

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One option if you are having trouble with little buggers stealing your bait all the time is to use a moderate sized piece of octopus on a recurve hook, snapper like occy. The little buggers can't get it off the hook, and eventually a bigger fish comes along and take it, there are always bigger snapper amongst the little ones,  Just leave the rod in the holder in gear and let the fish hook themselves. Your rod tip will be bouncing away all the time with the little buggers picking on it, but that attracts bigger fish in itself. It works a treat.
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Originally posted by Marligator Marligator wrote:

One option if you are having trouble with little buggers stealing your bait all the time is to use a moderate sized piece of octopus on a recurve hook, snapper like occy. The little buggers can't get it off the hook, and eventually a bigger fish comes along and take it, there are always bigger snapper amongst the little ones,  Just leave the rod in the holder in gear and let the fish hook themselves. Your rod tip will be bouncing away all the time with the little buggers picking on it, but that attracts bigger fish in itself. It works a treat.

Octopus is a tough bait. Sounds like a good strategy to me

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I put the boat in the water, parked the trailer, climbed aboard, and bugger - the battery was flat. I had left a switch on by mistake, and it would have flattened it. Retrieved the boat, went home, tried to charge the battery. The Ctek smart charger, told me that it wouldnt hold a charge, ie stuffed. Ive bought a new battery and fitted. Whew, at my age, its hard work. Lifting the old one out and the new one in is just about too much for me (with a bad back). I suppose I should have paid the agent to put it in. I tend to do things and later regret it. 

Naturally, the new battery had terminals back to front so had to turn it round and cut/customise the lid to get the cables on. Why cant they adopt standard terminal positions!!! 

Not very interesting, but I want to encourage posts on here. Happy fishing!


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I bought one of these for peace of mind (it was on special so I didn't pay this price!!! )
https://www.repco.co.nz/globes-batteries-electrical/battery-chargers-power-accessories/jump-starters/projecta-12v-1200a-intelli-start-emergency-lithium-jump-starter-and-power-bank-is1220/p/A6175804

So far it's worked well.  I haven't had to use it to start my boat (yet) but I have used it for:
  1. Mitsubishi Pajero (diesel) that had been left with an interior light on for a few days so battery was completely flat
  2. Came across another boatie who had a flat battery - started his 150hp Yamaha
  3. boat club tractor - battery was flat and it was sitting on the beach 
  4. A small petrol car
And before each of these uses it had just been left sitting for a few months either in my glove box or in the boat so it seems to hold a charge well for an extended period of time. (I'm doing my best to avoid having to call my Coastguard mates for a jump start - this is a relatively common tasking for us ... )

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i always carry a jump starter, have never had to use it to start the boat motor have used it on cars and the rideon it is a good bit of extra safety.
fishing to day hard work but have a feed,now need a rest
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Those jump packs are invaluable. I keep mine in the boat. That is the storage place, altho it gets used for other stuff, and not the boat. But no good sitting in the shed when you need it at sea. you can't push start a boat, but you can jump start it.
As for battery terminals - there are so many configurations as to how they are supposed to connect to a vehicles wiring, they basically have to make every combination of post orientation. They are coded. So you definitely could have gotten the equivalent battery with the same orientation.
I haven't had the chance to get near the water lately. Maybe this w/end if the swell/wind is OK.
Good luck.
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