Rotator Cuff- Give me some good news

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5 months now, and everyone I've spoken to who has had one of these has not regained 100% use.

Anyone had, and more importantly, managed to recover from one?

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Tore mine about 10 years ago when playing rugby. You would be surprised how many people have rotator cuff injuries. I still have some reservations about doing some things, but have learned to live with it and doesnt worry me anymore.
Do you still get the "catching" when you move it or is it just a dull pain? What have you done as far as rehab goes?
You have to keep moving it but be careful not to hurt it. I do an exercise at the gym, which can be done with your paddle, where you grab it with both hands, wider than shoulder width in front of you, lift up and backwards till the paddle is resting on your lower back. All the while keeping you arms straight. This stretches,strengthens and warms the joint up. Haven't had any issues for a few months now.
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Well I have broken my virginity for posting in here Embarrassed

Sadly HLD 12 years & still not the same & I got good help through the Navy medical system, but it just wasnt to be, so I just live with it. I actually did it getting back into a kayak Angry LOL
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Still expletives when I reach the limits, but easing very slowly to wince levels and constant aching.

Been doing Physio, fortunately gentle yakking actually improves the ROM - And she gave me a letter for Mrs. Dwarf to say that yakking was beneficial and should be done regularly, in all seriousness  -  That's now laminated and mounted on the wallThumbs Up

Although there has been no real improvement, so I have stopped physio unless things worsen.

...Still doing the exercises, taping and massage though (as well as yakking).  Most annoying thing is the total lack of power in that arm when extended - ie have to support it if picking up a full cup at arms length.  I'm saving a bit of money on beer though as it's flat by the time I get it to the mouth LOL
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Hang in there HLD. They do come right. I had 2 cortisone injections into mine with little benefit. Its just a matter of moving it, as your physio said gentle yakking, and trying not to aggrevate it.
The exercises with the rubber band, inwards and outwards rotation ones have to be done although incredibly boring and hard. And before you go to do any heavy lifting stop and think....can Mrs Dwarf do it?LOL
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Yep, rugby injury too. I have recovered about 95% use, not really noticeable. But it took time, and lots of it.
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done some damage to mine playing with crims there is no way in hell i want it operated on, simple they could not give me a gaurantee it would be a success.
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I know 2 people that have had rotator cuff injuries through Badminton. Both are back playing badminton 
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But I don't play badminton...
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Originally posted by Hairy Little Dwarf Hairy Little Dwarf wrote:

But I don't play badminton...


Arr - after many hrs of analyzing the replies I have come to this conclusion.

injuries caused;

2 playing rugby - not a full recovery

2 haven't said (what were they doing) one now uses a rubber thing

1 playing cops and robbers - hasn't said whether he was using the rubber thing

All of the above are fisherman

2 play badminton - 100% recovery

Conclusion

As all of the fisherman seem to have been involved in shady circumstances and only the badminton players have 100% recovery, then you need to give up fishing and take up badminton.

It is unsure what part of badminton the success has derived from, therefore it may be worth experimenting with tightening the strings on your net and wearing badminton attire while sitting in your kayak, before immersing yourself fully in the badminton scene.
Note; no rubber things are used in badminton although you may at times come across a feather co ck

This experiment was conducted under the strictest processes and procedures and stays within the guide lines endorsed by the NZ scientific council, with an accuracy rating of less than 10%





 
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Tore my rotator cuff (right off) over 10 years ago.  No pain now but my left shoulder sits lower than my right, plus my left trapezius is larger than my right, compensating for the structural change I spose.
 
Took about a year in my case for all pain to go, but still don't have as good a range of movement as I used to.
 
Cortisone did provide some releif in my case. Get them to give you an injection with a huge needle right through your shoulder and in behind your shoulder blade.  Makes you fel like puking and you forget about the injury.
 
If you're lucky like I was, you will have pain from behind your shoulder blade, up across your shoulder and down your arm/bicep for a year or so - end up with a bit of a deformity - other than that a full recovery to be expected.
 
Hope that helps HLD Shocked
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Originally posted by Here_fishee Here_fishee wrote:

 
 Get them to give you an injection with a huge needle right through your shoulder and in behind your shoulder blade.  Makes you fel like puking and you forget about the injury.
 
If you're lucky like I was, you will have pain from behind your shoulder blade, up across your shoulder and down your arm/bicep for a year or so - end up with a bit of a deformity - other than that a full recovery to be expected.
 
Hope that helps HLD Shocked
 
Wow its looking promising HLD LOL
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I think it makes me feel a bit better...  My pain is only in the head of the bicep and the joint, so I guess I'm on the winning side. Wacko

(I'm sure the damn thing has started aching more in the last few minutes because it knows I'm reading this ! Need to up the yakking rehab.)
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Glad my wee sook and cry made you feel better HLD.  Any time......
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Did my rotator a few months back, getting acc physio to help it out
Unusual in my case as there was no instant awareness when the injury actually happened, its just during the night the injury wakes you up telling you something is not quite right

Fortnight ago with this injury, well, unsure if it was an injury or actual tear, as I have no restricted movement, just dull aches during the night when in sleep mode & no discomfort from paddling as I do it. Sometimes an ache when I do an odd twist with the bung shoulder
I was sent to get an ultrasound & found out that I had a small tear in the rotator cuff with some swelling from possible bone spurs. So from there, I went to get an xray, if there were indeed any spurs causing swelling
Luckily, no bone spurs, just a small tear
Fu*k, that's the end of kayak fishing me thinks.... more fu*ks again, only way to get around it is to maybe get a bixpy, but at 2 grand, which is not around at the moment... now what ?
Well..... kayaking is actually really good for the rotator cuff injury in most cases, in strengthening up those muscles, just tone it down a bit instead of going hard out in the paddling.... yep, that suits me & is bloody cheaper too
I find with my reload, its a heavy buggar & trying to load it up on the roof rack can be quite awkward but is do-able.
Ended up buying the "rhino universal side kayak loader" absolutely brilliant in saving the stress caused by the unusual stress on the body. Its easy az to get it off the roof rack... just getting it up haha, no, not that, no probs there

My physio mentioned that a slight tear can be something historical & not too noticeable, then you do something to it, that your awareness reminds you straight away that something is not right & needs looking into

So... my point is in all this, if you have any ache or other in the shoulder area, please get it looked at before it gets any worse
In my case, the ache / dull pain from this injury is not located in the actual area of the tear itself, its about 3 inches away from it where 4 muscles converge together that are part of the rotator cuff..... bloody strange aye, but very common

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I think a lot depends on what is damaged, and how severe.....
Common injuries are partial tears of supraspinatus (lifts shoulder) and less so infraspinatus and subscapularis (imagine holding a pistol, elbow at 90’. Infraspinatus rotates right side outwards, subscapularis rotates inwards.)

Minor tears can settle with Physio and steroid injections....major tears ‘may’ benefit from surgery. But, post op rotator cuff repair is 3-6 months.

I’ve not torn anything but have had supraspinatus impingement one and off for years, triggered by lifting mountain bikes over 8 foot deer fences.

don’t despair...have you seen a good physio or orthopaedic shoulder specialist?

(For info, GP who sees lots of rotator cuff injuries)
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