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I’m the same Steps,I dont have my feet firmly on either side of the argument and as a non smoker of anything the rule change doesn’t effect me too much directly.

What we know and which isn’t manipulated is the war on drugs started by Nixon is a complete dismal failure - drugs are way more prolific than before he penned a war on drugs. So with that knowledge what do you do?...some countries legalised and it reduced the trouble and cost of drug use in the community so more and more countries removed the crime aspect and thats where NZ is at.

My taxes paying for courts and enforcement and imprisonment could be better spent...ideally increasing fish stocks and bettering the environment.

Makes my blood boil when I see gang members and associates who dont work or contribute have millions of dollars of assets and thumb their nose to the public. Look forward from having some of their wealth and power eroded.   
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Originally posted by Muppet Muppet wrote:

Its quite the debate huh?

There is always one question for me though that settles it.

Are those who support legal use of cannabis happy with the following after a good long weed sesh.

Nurses looking after you or family.
Surgeons about to slice you.
Bus drivers taking your kids or family on a drive.
Builders doing your home.
Cops!
And so and on....oh hang lets go there, you happy to have our politicians have a smoke up. I am sure a lot may well do judging by policies and all the hand wringing. 

Remembering that all those jobs require you to be professional and maintain a certain amount of "high" LOL self standards. And I can think of a few more stressful jobs where a good ol smoke might help them wind down ready for next day.






It is already going on and has been for decades.
The term used is "functioning addicts"
That term has been bandied around as justification and proof by those in favour of legalization for ages.

I do not really care either way.
As long as it is regulated and Policed properly.
In support 100% of medicinal marijuana which was the Trojan Horse used to bring wholesale legalization to the table.
Take care.
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Real Deal,you mention Nixon to wage a war on drugs,Now which country helped Afghanistan to grow poppies??

U.S. officials are painfully aware that Afghan land made fertile thanks to several hundred millions of dollars from U.S. taxpayers now produces narcotics for American and European addicts.
water water everywhere,how many fish does it hold?
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Opiates gotta come from somewhere right?
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PJC I cant state anything other than simple concepts as everything else is labeled as nonsense or twisted to fit or manipulated hehehe

But yes the CIA themselves brought mountains of drugs into America’s apparently most in coffins labeled as GIs this was done to fund the US black budget to continue manipulating politics of other countries under the radar. Old news these days and plenty of docos, biographies and movies on that subject.

Peace out :-)
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Hypothetically I'd be really be concerned about my kayak's stability after being effected by marajuana consumption. One reason I'll seldom take more than a couple of beers out is my preference to remain stable (admitedley is an Ocean Kayak not a Viking) , also retiaining my will to paddle home, and not needing to take leak in confines of a yak.
Also as a kayaker I always worry about jet ski persons in my vicinity, and would really worry that stoned ones might not see me in my kayak.
So even if dope might be nice to try for bit of legal THC arthritic pain relief for my presently very sore hip. I am still very much on fence on issue, particularly if I can't kayak safely afterwards.
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Originally posted by shaneg shaneg wrote:

Hypothetically I'd be really be concerned about my kayak's stability after being effected by marajuana consumption. One reason I'll seldom take more than a couple of beers out is my preference to remain stable (admitedley is an Ocean Kayak not a Viking) , also retiaining my will to paddle home, and not needing to take leak in confines of a yak.
Also as a kayaker I always worry about jet ski persons in my vicinity, and would really worry that stoned ones might not see me in my kayak.
So even if dope might be nice to try for bit of legal THC arthritic pain relief for my presently very sore hip. I am still very much on fence on issue, particularly if I can't kayak safely afterwards.

Good pragmatic approach there shaneG


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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Originally posted by shaneg shaneg wrote:

Hypothetically I'd be really be concerned about my kayak's stability after being effected by marajuana consumption. One reason I'll seldom take more than a couple of beers out is my preference to remain stable (admitedley is an Ocean Kayak not a Viking) , also retiaining my will to paddle home, and not needing to take leak in confines of a yak.
Also as a kayaker I always worry about jet ski persons in my vicinity, and would really worry that stoned ones might not see me in my kayak.
So even if dope might be nice to try for bit of legal THC arthritic pain relief for my presently very sore hip. I am still very much on fence on issue, particularly if I can't kayak safely afterwards.


Good pragmatic approach there shaneG


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Originally posted by shaneg shaneg wrote:

Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Originally posted by shaneg shaneg wrote:

Hypothetically I'd be really be concerned about my kayak's stability after being effected by marajuana consumption. One reason I'll seldom take more than a couple of beers out is my preference to remain stable (admitedley is an Ocean Kayak not a Viking) , also retiaining my will to paddle home, and not needing to take leak in confines of a yak.
Also as a kayaker I always worry about jet ski persons in my vicinity, and would really worry that stoned ones might not see me in my kayak.
So even if dope might be nice to try for bit of legal THC arthritic pain relief for my presently very sore hip. I am still very much on fence on issue, particularly if I can't kayak safely afterwards.


Good pragmatic approach there shaneG


Pragmatism .. comes from being a gurnard fisherman.

You are a very wise man ShaneG


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Originally posted by shaneg shaneg wrote:

Hypothetically I'd be really be concerned about my kayak's stability after being effected by marajuana consumption. One reason I'll seldom take more than a couple of beers out is my preference to remain stable (admitedley is an Ocean Kayak not a Viking) , also retiaining my will to paddle home, and not needing to take leak in confines of a yak.
Also as a kayaker I always worry about jet ski persons in my vicinity, and would really worry that stoned ones might not see me in my kayak.
So even if dope might be nice to try for bit of legal THC arthritic pain relief for my presently very sore hip. I am still very much on fence on issue, particularly if I can't kayak safely afterwards.

 The thing is, this is already the case far too often.. which makes the issue of legalisation almost a moot point.
 Almost a moot point in the question arises if there would be more consumption by more because it becomes legal or not.

My belief at the moment is there would more people consuming inappropriately.
 Add that to the current cannabis and current alcohol consumed inappropriately..
Have a beer , or 2 out on the water and most are ok.. have a smoke , or just a couple tokes and people on today quality are rather stoned..
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Forget the getting stoned and going kayaking. Take the wife or girlfriend to bed instead.
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Originally posted by pompey pompey wrote:

....Take the wife or girlfriend to bed instead.

Hmmm.As someone who lived in Southampton for a long time, and a Saints fan, I was always under the impression that down Portsmouth way it was either the sister or the daughter.

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Originally posted by brmbrm brmbrm wrote:

[QUOTE=pompey]....Take the wife or girlfriend to bed instead.

Hmmm.As someone who lived in Southampton for a long time, and a Saints fan, I was always under the impression that down Portsmouth way it was either the sister or the daughter.

Brian

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Cannabis reportedly lifts your sights to avoid this. It's called progress but old habits die hard for some.
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