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Topic: Marine Carpet?
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Subject: Marine Carpet?
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2014 at 11:35pm
Any suggestions as to which is the best marine carpet to get for use on my tinnies deck? Exposed to UV and water etc. Any ideas?


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Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2014 at 11:38pm
we use the pvc tube matting ,easy to clean,dosnt hold moisture or end up smelly


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 12:26am
Yeah, nah, I want carpet thanks..... the tube stuff and I do not get on :-)


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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: yellafin
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 6:10am
Autex seems to be the best/most durable.


Posted By: 3rnzir
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 6:10am
Went with the 3mm ribbed rubber matting.
Was advised my others that the carpet will hold odours eventually.
The tube matting loses it`s shape and is hard on bare feet.
The 3mm rubber comes in various widths 900/1200mm mostly.
East to cut to shape and roll up to remove/install for cleaning etc
Comes in black and grey.


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Posted By: lemmy
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 6:11am
Autex have a good range ,and they sometimes have offcuts big enough to do a boat you can get for a good deal.
p.s Awesome new boat Capt.



Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 8:25am
I have the ribbed type and the none ribbed type in the center panel
The boat get water blasted every time we return with a 3000lb petrol unit
Bait, blood etc gets trampled in and blasted out.. close range.
The ribbed stuff is still as good as new.. the stuff up the middle has not only worn out in patches but the blaster the blown holes in the worn patches.

you cant get much harder on carpet than that.


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 10:29am
Good to know... I was looking at the ribbed stuff, just humming and hahhing a little over the direction of the ribs....if along the length of the boat dropped ball sinkers will shoot straight down the boat and straight out the scuppers, if the ribs are crossways, it may give a little more grip perhaps, and stop everything railroading straight out the back of the boat. Hmmmm, decisions decisions.

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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 11:06am
My ribs go lengthways.....stuff doesn't seem to roll down .. have to think about it  if it is an issue....
My "work hard at being lazy" attitude ..if was an issue would be considering width ways to replace the center run... but no....
On the other hand the only ball sinkers we use are already on pre made stray lines...all the rest are drop sinkers or the round cone clip type.. not an issue
Also the boat is pretty level when in the water.

OH I do think if the ribs went across then the water blaster would not blast the ground in dropped burley/ bait. sandwich crusts what ever as well....just another thought.....I think the nap of the weave must go the same way as the ribs???


Posted By: Tzer
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 11:38am
Capt pm Renegade he in the carpet trade he should be able to help you out.


Posted By: Blindspot
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 11:39am
Capt I have an IRB with a ribbed 5mm foam 'surfgrip' covering the fiberglass floor.  Its soft underfoot being 5mm, grippy as hell, and I water-blast it to clean it.   You can get it with a 3M marine adhesive backing in a variety of colours/patterns.

If you are happy to glue it down yourself you could look at the interlocking polytuf product sold in bunnings, mitre10 etc 


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Posted By: Renegade
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 12:46pm
Autex Decord is the ribbed product your talking about the ribbes run up the roll and it comes 2.0 metres wide, I would definitly run the ribbes length ways in the boat with the pile running towards the stern this will make it allot easier to clean.  But it will probably depend how the width works out for the size you require to which way you will run it.  There are some cheaper look alikes and even Autex make a lighter grade look alike called Reef, but go with the decord and you won't have the sort of issues Steps is talking about. If you won't some pricing let me know your sizes, I can at least make sure we keep your local supplier honest.


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 1:19pm
I am really after the carpet, the rubber I think may well get a bit slippy underfoot after a fish has been flapping on the deck for a second, so I am kinda leery about that, and I reckon the carpet will be a tad warmer on my geriatric old tootsies these days :-) lol
I am going to line the anchor well with rubber though to cut down on clanking on chain etc....
One bad thing about carpet though, it is a hook magnet.....and a hook stuck in carpet and then stood on..... owww, I can feel all youse guys's cringe as I type this! Owwww.....


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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 2:54pm
Dont drop hooks then.. get the arthritis fixed lol
never had an issue with hooks.. even the long line we have and the hooks are mounted on the base.
Yeah definitely warmer in the winter.. notice the difference even between 'glass and ply. floors
As to bloody etc ...not a worry, even cutting  sea KY, blood spurting everywhere....
I use a good car type detergent (currently meguires) in the water blaster.. soak everything, including carpets....washes out like new.

Be interested if have a strip about 2.2m long 700mm wide  a grey sort of colour (NOT blue lol)
Replace the crap center stuff I mentioned above.


Posted By: 3rnzir
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 9:52pm
Rubber should be plenty warm on your tootsies,
Measure width of deck,get 2 x rubber(or carpet) widths ribbed rolls to cover.
ie as in a overlap in the middle for each half.
Do not glue them.
This will assist in removal/clean up.
Quite heavy is the good quality rubber.
2 X 900mm for me worked for my deck area.
My next boat will not have that alloy tread/diamond pattern plate.
That stuff does not stop things sliding around.
Flat plate (should be cheaper too)with covering will be the go.
Let us know which way you go,and give us your opions 12 months from the install.


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Posted By: 3rnzir
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 9:56pm
As for blood and guts?
Wash away crud asap,
Nil x H&S/ACC slip hazards to contend with with the rubber option.


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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 10:23pm
ive filleted a Marlin on my carpet in the boat no worries at all,
and your definitely over reacting about hooks and sinkers Stu,
never had a problem in 12 years and carpet looked like new when i sold the boat,
plus the floor under the carpet was just as shinny as when i brought the boat,
and i never took the carpet out of the boat either....

one thing to look out for is make the carpet a little short "10cm" where your likely to blast all the blood and guts to, this helps it escape without to much hassle when cleaning up with the water blaster....

  


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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 10:24pm
I don't have tread plate floor, but flat. Reasons, it is harder than tread plate, it doesn't wear on bare feet, and I have always intended to have carpeting, when the boat was originally due to head to the tropics, I wanted carpet to stop feet from getting fried on the deck you see :-)

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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 10:26pm
any off cuts, i need some for my dog box and bonnet


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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2014 at 10:30pm
Did you have it glued down Eric? I am thinking of getting the carpet edged with Velcro, stick Velcro to the deck, and have it fastened around the edges that way.
Well, iPad is flat, so, time for bed...night all! :-)

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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 9:05am
Mine is glued...and the new panel in the center I need to do soon will also glue down...
And
one thing to look out for is make the carpet a little short "10cm" where your likely to blast all the blood and guts to, this helps it escape without to much hassle when cleaning up with the water blaster....
Definitely... mine doesnt go under oil tank batteries etc in the stern, stops well short so be it water blaster or the hose, everything gets washed from one end to the other and the crap simply pours out the end of the carpet... and u can see when the rinsing goes clear....
If it was right to the rear, I think one would end up with crap still in the bottom end like a sponge and stink after a day or so.


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 10:09am
I have everything running to the scuppers, that is the beauty of a self draining cockpit :-) but yes, I plan on not carrying the carpet right to the back wall. Who'd'a thunk carpet could be so interesting eh? :-)

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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by Capt Asparagus Capt Asparagus wrote:

Did you have it glued down Eric? I am thinking of getting the carpet edged with Velcro, stick Velcro to the deck, and have it fastened around the edges that way.
Well, iPad is flat, so, time for bed...night all! :-)

nah mate but it was screwed to the floor up front only,
sometime i blasted skinny long leaves under the carpet along the sides so just rolled it back and blasted them out,
when its first new it sometimes would slip when you got on an acute angle but otherwise not a problem,
i would glue it down like Step has done, this would keep it tidy and definitely stop it from moving..
the thing that makes it turn tits up is spilling petrol/oil on it, if it happens wet it with water pronto this will help, then blast what you can out this reduce the effect it has on the carpet....





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Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing


Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 6:40pm
Just a comment from me that I heard that some marine carpets can cause some form of corrosion on the floor of Aluminium floors to the point of pitting and small holes appearing under carpets. Something to do with the type of plastic reacting with the alloy. This fella had a huge warranty issue with boat manufacturer with this happening to his brand new boat after I think only 6-12 months.

Myself I think best not to glue marine carpet to the hull or tanalised boards as some lay ply on top of the hull and glue carpet to that. Some use tanalised marine ply which is great but tanalised timber on Aluminium causes quite a chemical reaction with the alloy, worse so in areas that have screws/bolt and wet/damp spots.

I think marine/plastic carpet is good but wash and dry it and let it and the hull breathe and air and not trap damp,moisture, mildew, mould and bad bacteria in the winter which will attack an alloy hull.


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 8:41pm
That is what Harvey feels about wet anything stuck to the tin,and it concerned me too, so that is why I had the entire deck painted and nano coated, to put an impermeable layer between any wetness, salt or whatever and the tin.
I would prefer to glue the carpet down so it never moves at all, however..., well, we will see :-)

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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 8:59pm
Don't glue it,I fitted carpet to my centre console,brought a good quality marine carpet from a carpet company,if its cut properly to fit the boat you will only need to fix it intermittently ,I've used stick on Velcro dots on the cnrs and randomly thru the centre.centre ones weren't needed really,pull the carpet out every now and then but don't even need to.
Clean it with household detergent to keep hygienic ,boats shed stored which helps.
Wash carpet each time i use the boat then vacume it a day later when dry,bit pedantic but i like clean things that smell good.


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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 9:10pm
Mmmm which is kinda what I was thinking by velcroing around the edges.
There are enough angles and build in obstructions on the deck areas, like the seat bases, I think to stop the carpet from shifting too much. Maybe an idea would be to glue down the for'ard half of the carpet, where there is much less likelihood of fish guts, blood and bait, and have the back deck carpet able to be lifted.

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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 9:54pm
You might find you wont need any glue,I wouldn't glue it at all.be a cock up if you need to replace it.
Cut it to fit real neat and tidy and use it for a while

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Posted By: Renegade
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 10:45pm
I wouldn't recommend glueing it, autex Decord has a stiff enough that backing that it should sit OK if just cut to the edges, if you do have an issue fit a couple of domes to it. We supply the carpet for White Pointers they glue it inside the cabin but if it is on the deck it is not glued. Some of the cheaper carpets do not have a stiff enough backing to just sit loose on the deck. If you want a nice carpet inside your cabin go for some Smartstrand Rhino carpet we have just supplied it to a open cabin White Pointer, I have it on my Flybridge and in my cabin which we walk straight into when fishing with gumboots etc on, been there 3 years and still looks like new, 25 year fade gaurentee and life time stain gaurentee


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 11:20pm
Tell me more about that rhino stuff mate... why not for the whole deck.... not recommended for open air?
I want a lightish charcoal colour, the upholstery is going to be white, seats white, don't want a dark or black carpet..., the autex site show a sample pic of their carpets but gives you no idea at all of what it actually looks like in decent areas.... I was looking at slate, would that be a fairly light carpet colour?


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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 9:04am
I have run my carpet under the seat pedistiles.. they sit on the carpet and screwed thru....dont know how your seats are fitted thu
As to gluing and not being able to get back up to replace or whatever...doesnt take much to lift a cnr, then just start ripping up.....and a little solvent cleans up the old glue.. shore a little messy with the glue, but not exactly a major...
I think u will find , if not glued down, then with turning in shoes , griping the surface, will bend / fold the carpet , eventually breaking the backing and having humps and bits to trip on.
And u will get crap collecting underneath which means...lifting every time u clean down...
Hell thats a 4 letter word...."work"   Glued down nothing collects, nothing smells.. nothing gets pushed harder underneath with hosing or blasting....


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 1:34pm
There is much in what you say. Sounds good to me. I will see what the carpet guy says too this arvo.

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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: Renegade
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 2:36pm
My main recommendation for not glueing it is that it takes alot longer to dry when glued, you can always try it loose to start with then if you find it moving about to much glue it down.  Stu the Rhino carpet is of convention construction which means it would need the edges bound or overlocked to stop it fraying, also the backing would not stand up to water blasting for to long.  Great for in a cabin or some were that doesn't need to be pressured washed very often.  Marine carpets are what we call needle punch construction, which means it as all held together with glue and this why it won't fray much and why it doesn't like petrol etc spilled on it, as they break down the glue and cause the carpet to bubble and go soft.


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 4:06pm
ahhhh, ha! OK. Arrrghh!. :-) Well, I will see how it goes unglued for a second or two, and if I feel it may shift, and this is an open boat after all, no cabin to keep the wind from whistling over the deck, then I will glue it.
So the Autex Duracord is the only stuff to use then? Other Autex products of lesser quality? I want the best (within reason).


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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: Lambchops
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 4:34pm
Hi I bought 3mm wet suit neoprene.can be washed water blasted easy on your feet if barefooted.as you do on a boat.
have tried all others hard on feet.cheers my opinion anyway.


Posted By: Renegade
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 5:06pm
Yup Autex Decord or Widetrack best to use not allot dearer than the cheaper option but will last twice as long. Storm is the dark grey colour, shale is a light grey any local flooring retailer should have samples, but as I own a Carpet Court store I would recommend going to one of our stores, tell them Roger from the Gisborne store sent you in and has given you an idea of prices, that should keep them honest. 


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 5:48pm
My main recommendation for not glueing it is that it takes a lot longer to dry
I dont know on that....even thru winter it doesnt take long for the carpet to dry after a good storm...
And with a rubber backing it should not make any difference.. unless hanging out to drain dry...
And lets face it.. the real world, after a few trips.. would one be still taking it out to dry, espec in winter?
And wet carpet.. how many times do u actually get in the boat, on the trailer and on water in bare feet?....I do but dont know many others who wear bare feet most of the time.
And the only time that when the carpet is wet its a hassle, is when I have to re fill the oil tank... the ppl who installed that ... if had 1/2 a brain would die of confusion.. professionally installed to.
I have to lay down on the carpet to get the hooks back in
Other than that doesnt matter if dry or wet

New carpet (well most new stuff) glues far better than used with dirt oils etc ingrained into the backing


Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 8:09pm

this is the stuff i had on the McLay Stu, lasted the 10 years i had and it and still looked like new,
was never glued just 4 screws holding the top from sliding down,
i dont know what carpet court are sell but this was purchased at Smart Marine for around $100...
 was wide enough to cover the whole floor with the groves going from front to rear on a 6-5mt boat...

 


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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 8:31pm
Would there be any corrosion problems with glued down carpet. There was an issue with tinnies when they had carpet glued to the sides running down to the floor. Caused many of them to end up with tiny pin holes caused by the bottom edge of the carpet holding water.


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 9:03pm
I doubt that that would be a problem for my boat, as the entire inside of the hull and deck have been painted and coated in nano clear, so it should be pretty much bullet proof in that regard.
I will pop in to the local store here tomorrow, have a look see. I think the slate colour is what I will be after, moderately light coloured.

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It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection.

Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer.


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2014 at 9:55pm
Sounds good I had the dark grey in one of my boats and it was to hot on the feet.


Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2014 at 3:01pm
As a stop gap measure I tossed in an offcut of some el cheapo artificial lawn type carpet that I used on my patio - seems to work a treat, no ridges to catch hooks in or collect bits of bait, just hose down at the end of the day, easy on bare feet and doesn't move around or bunch up - much!


Posted By: Mr Moritz
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2021 at 7:42pm
I'd get the cheapest outdoor carpet and replace as required..Thumbs Up


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 8:38am
Often wondered about artificial grass...

Im in the Mr.M ...so long as doesnt move..glued down so doesnt move, stretch in a non glued area when turn and twist a foot.
Can water blast  on regular basis.. bait etc washes out easy, so long as at least soaked when get home and dont let dry. If let dry ..soak and blast.
Get 10yrs plus out of it.


Posted By: Fraser Hocks
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 9:54am
Years ago, I painted the floor of my aluminum boat with Treadgrip paint.  Fantastic stuff.  Very hard wearing and soft to the touch.  Its a latex based tread paint that you roller on.  It can be tinted to suit any color you want.   Its nice and soft to the touch, so no loosing skin of your knees when you kneel down on it.   Best of all you can touch it up at any time if you want.   I'm surprised its not significantly more popular. 


https://www.duraspec.co.nz/product/primer-tredgrip/ " rel="nofollow - https://www.duraspec.co.nz/product/primer-tredgrip/  ;


Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 7:01pm
Marine carpet.
Never ever use it in a glued situation on an alloy boat.
And if loosely placed remove waterblast regularly.


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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 9:40am
I have only glued down to glass and wood floor panels.
 Why not alloy?
I can see checked pattern being a possible issue.???


Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 5:00pm
The carpet stores salt crystals.
Sweats and drys.
Eats holes really fast.
Being invisible because your not lifting it, it's a silent killer.
And waterblasting does not work unless your doing it for 24 hours.

Take a piece out and try to clean it to have no salt residue.
A mission for sure.

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Posted By: Kane Holland
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2022 at 10:09pm
In 8'x20' carpet size I installed it myself for Sanger V230 2002. My old carpet is paper thin if it had a vinyl backing before it was worn down. The new carpet is much more luxurious and wonderful! The first time on the lake with a new mat, I couldn't even feel the water on it. Carpet doesn't seem to get wet.


Posted By: Kane Holland
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2022 at 5:45am
I bought Marine to replace the 20 year old carpet in my Triton. Carpet color is very classy and easy to work with. I actually left footprints in it! I learned about the carpets here, if you also want to know, I leave this information.  http://https://www.boatingbasicsonline.com/best-boat-carpets/" rel="nofollow - //https://www.boatingbasicsonline.com/best-boat-carpets/


Posted By: rugsandcarpets
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2022 at 8:18pm
@Capt Asparagus Any suggestions as to which is the best marine carpet to get for use on my tinnies deck? Thanks for nice words. Custom Made Rugs and Carpets Dubai is a company that offers its customers with the finest quality handmade rugs and carpets. 


Posted By: Reel Deal
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2022 at 10:10pm
Be great to hear from captain asparagus 

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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2022 at 11:24am
Originally posted by Reel Deal Reel Deal wrote:

Be great to hear from captain asparagus 


Like many of the old posters on here, they had moved over to fb mostly. i quite often see Stu post on there


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Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2022 at 2:09pm
Originally posted by kaveman kaveman wrote:

Originally posted by Reel Deal Reel Deal wrote:

Be great to hear from captain asparagus 


Like many of the old posters on here, they had moved over to fb mostly. i quite often see Stu post on there
signed up a local fishing group.Yep copped flake for taking limit and some going about sizes kept first and last post left group. Viewed a few others Man you caught it so what you like with it as far as I am concerned big / small who cares.take one 10lver or 5 legal still breeders removed. At least here we can have a sensible debate without calling each other fwits or worse

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