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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Heavy Metal - Jig fishing
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Topic: New JM reels
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Subject: New JM reels
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2014 at 12:50am
What do you make of these reels.....

 



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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2014 at 2:22am
Just a gimmick mate.....only useful thing is the line level but id rather have my reel on top out the way or a stella underneath it........Cant see that taking off.

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Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2014 at 6:52am
There will be the guys that everything and want to give it a go to see what its like, but I can't see it taking off either


Posted By: KingySlayer
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2014 at 8:03am
Well you cant cast it from what a few of my mates have said that have used seen used them. Rather limited to the Mechanical Jigging. Be interesting to see how it pans out

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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2014 at 10:43am
Seen these reels before...poses the question.... Why... Spin reels do the job just fine and have advantages over a underhead reel design... Level wind could be asking for trouble on a high output drag down the track...could be wrong... Notice in the video when the angler gets railed that the reel gets banged around a bit .... so much weight swinging around under the rod

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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2014 at 3:43pm
pro for spin........the jig goes down faster (always down before me).....   con for spin...easier to beat the reel up.
As MIB says, why bother?.................Personally, i like overhead.
Filmed in Perth on samsons by the look of it......surprised the sharks didnt get em.


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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2014 at 4:11pm
Great Promo vid as usual from JM... these reels are designed for Jigging that's clear... the advantage it would have over a spin is the narrow angle from spool to first guide which means less line angle when the rod is loaded.... Had suggestions from a mate who's a spin reel fan to improve this design... he would turn the spool 90 degrees remove the side plate and put a manual bail arm on it and it should be a winner....  told him it would be a conventional spin reel then.... " exactly"...

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Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2014 at 5:09pm
Yup stupid i reckon spin or over head not put the two into one
we all know spin is betterLOL


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Posted By: alan syme
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2014 at 9:39pm
good video but reel looks awkward to me, I noticed that there was not much footage of them actually jigging before hook up either which makes me wonder? sticking with the stella, but cool to see them trying something different.


Posted By: TIN RIB
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2014 at 4:48pm
just looks so wrong on a million levels Confused


Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2014 at 6:31am
Was that advertising reels or coolness? 

I think it's going to detract from one of the biggest benefits of an OH reel. it will remove the ability to detect the slightest of little knocks. I think DAM tried these over a decade ago to no avail ( I know not the same league of reel but concept the same. 

 Will they succeed? probably because Jigging is a very trendy market. It has the guy with the name behind them and he knows it (just look at his walk :P ) 


Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2014 at 8:19am
Dunno what is gayer - the reels the stupid shirts they wear or the haircuts .


Posted By: Fissure
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2014 at 9:02am
LOL


Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2014 at 10:55am
It turns out we've been doin it wrong all this time! Or have we?? Seems a bit unnecessary when you consider some of the biggest jigged kingy have come out of our waters using recognisable gear. However good on em for giving us options. I guess!?

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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2014 at 6:01am
Originally posted by the angler the angler wrote:

Dunno what is gayer - the reels the stupid shirts they wear or the haircuts .
Superheros mateLOL


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Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2014 at 11:40am
As Alan said. Not much footage of jigging.. without being able to hold such a bulky reel i can imagine the side to side wobble would be a pain. As mib says level winds tend to fail as jigging is very tough on the smaller components which are generally not metal.. I guess thats to be seen. The monster game reels never took off. Just another trendy concept trying to break into new markets imo.

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Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2014 at 2:01pm
I would say they will be metal parts in these. although the concept is a little strange to us I am sure they will have put some effort into getting them right. 



Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2014 at 2:15pm
True but they are going to find it hard to get spin boys to use them and o/h boys wont touch them id imagine. Who does it leave.. food for thought..

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Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2014 at 2:16pm
I take it they go on a standard spin rod. If not jm will have their own underhand rod market.. small as it may be.

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Posted By: Raging Bull
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2014 at 3:51pm
Would be good to give one a go


Posted By: yellow tail
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2014 at 12:26am
GAY!!! In so meany ways.


Posted By: jac
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2014 at 8:39am
"Underhand" almost like "Reacharound"



Posted By: PJay
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2014 at 9:24am
OK, so what's to like?

1. A straight pull of line from the reel to the rod cf spin reels.

2. You lose the twisting of the rod that inevitably happens with overheads once the strain goes on (so no need for acid wraps...).

3. Easier on spool bearings, possibly easier to manufacture using cheaper materials.

What's not to like?

1. Different (aaaarrrggghhh, change...)

2. A bit awkward to thumb the line on the drop; but, come on, who does this regularly jigging?

3. Levelwind may add some potential for wear on the line. My experience with much lighter braid on much smaller levelwind reels would indicate that this is more to do with the particular braid you use than with levelwinds.

Yeah, I'd happily give one a go.

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Posted By: Finatic
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2014 at 9:38am
Will be interested to see if these reels are a passing fad, a gimmick, or here to stay. Are any of the other manufacturers going down this way? 

Remember a few years back? Sam Mossman on tv using a spin reel upside down and winding backwards? I don't think that caught on hereLOL


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Posted By: murrayt
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2014 at 12:31pm
Originally posted by PJay PJay wrote:

OK, so what's to like?

1. A straight pull of line from the reel to the rod cf spin reels.

2. You lose the twisting of the rod that inevitably happens with overheads once the strain goes on (so no need for acid wraps...).

3. Easier on spool bearings, possibly easier to manufacture using cheaper materials.

What's not to like?

1. Different (aaaarrrggghhh, change...)

2. A bit awkward to thumb the line on the drop; but, come on, who does this regularly jigging?

3. Levelwind may add some potential for wear on the line. My experience with much lighter braid on much smaller levelwind reels would indicate that this is more to do with the particular braid you use than with levelwinds.

Yeah, I'd happily give one a go.
 
I'm with PJ. Also no line twist as spinning reels are prone to, no problems with slamming bail arm over when big fish nails you on the drop.
 
If they come in left hand wind I'll also have a go. 


Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2014 at 12:44pm
But what does this do that an overhead won't? This will slam into the rail, harder to control the jig on the drop, have a level wind which will probably fail, harder to balance the reel, will be quite expensive, Will be heavier,   harder to adjust the drag and you will look silly trying to jig with it. Sounds like a great reel apart from all that stuff


Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2014 at 12:50pm
Well by the look of the fishing report it catches fish. At the end of the day that's all a reel has to do, it can't be any worse than an Alvey to me.


Posted By: jac
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2014 at 4:09pm
Buy a Stella


Posted By: harry mike
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2014 at 4:51pm
i find quite silly that jigging master have released an "underhead reel" but they have no spinning reels in the jm lineup.. yet they even have aftermarket spools......  but they decided to do an underhead? a spinning reel and an underhead do the exact same thing and i could almost guarentee that if jm brings out a spinning reel it would out sell an underhead 3:1

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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2014 at 6:18am
Originally posted by harry mike harry mike wrote:

i find quite silly that jigging master have released an "underhead reel" but they have no spinning reels in the jm lineup.. yet they even have aftermarket spools......  but they decided to do an underhead? a spinning reel and an underhead do the exact same thing and i could almost guarentee that if jm brings out a spinning reel it would out sell an underhead 3:1
Good pointWink


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Posted By: KikBac
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2014 at 6:00am
Anyone got any info on the new JM Ocean Devil range:

http://www.jignpop.com/jigging-master-ocean-devil-pe5-reel/" rel="nofollow - http://www.jignpop.com/jigging-master-ocean-devil-pe5-reel/

Single drag, but similar spec's to the dual drag model and built to a price point

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Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2014 at 8:03am
Indeed I have KB and have one in stock Give me a ring.


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Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2014 at 12:58pm
Maxel doesnt do spin reels so im guessing thats why there is no spin reel jm option. Only jm spools made by maxel. Surprise surprise maxel does the same ones. Funny really..

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Posted By: McKoy
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2014 at 12:17am
Looks like the typical approach of changing a product for the sake of change in order to sell more. Pass, I already have a few Stellas, and several Accurates. 



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