New Daiwa Catalina
Printed From: The Fishing Website
Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Heavy Metal - Jig fishing
Forum Description: Anything related to jig fishing here
URL: https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97961
Printed Date: 27 Jan 2026 at 11:34am
Topic: New Daiwa Catalina
Posted By: Mr Plastic
Subject: New Daiwa Catalina
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 10:10am
|
Anyone used one of these either in low or high ratio. Feedback appreciated. Cheers ------------- Synit Prototype bender |
Replies:
Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 10:48am
|
PM Legacy mate, I know he has one and is happy with it. ------------- Sea Strike 18' Centre Console - Under Construction.... http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/sea-strike-18-build-thread_topic87723_page1.html" rel="nofollow - Build Thread here |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 10:59am
Do a search Mr P, i see a few models are getting a recall -------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
|
Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 11:28am
|
Do you know which models? I see Digitaka still have all the Catalinas in stock bar the 5000/5000H... ------------- Sea Strike 18' Centre Console - Under Construction.... http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/sea-strike-18-build-thread_topic87723_page1.html" rel="nofollow - Build Thread here |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 11:59am
|
It's not just the Catalina's but the Saltiga's as well that have a problem... rather than issuing a world wide recall Daiwa are dealing with it on a reel by reel case... the problem according to Alan Hawke is The disc containing the fluid reservoir may come apart messing up the alignment with the magnet sleeve, causing a noticeable heft in winding. Daiwa Japan is overwhelmed by the number of recalled reels and repairs are quite slow, and overseas local centres will deal with it on a reel-to-reel basis instead of issuing a recall.
Daiwa has issued a recall for the new Saltiga and Catalina, and I'd add the Isla to this since it's virtually a Catalina http://all.daiwa21.com/fishing/news/important/140109/index.html" rel="nofollow - ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 12:21pm
Thanks Graeme MarkE, the 5000 model is worst affected from all reports ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
|
Posted By: Millkman
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 12:27pm
|
Mr Plastic, I have the 5k low ratio, use it for Kingi jigging, what a beast, smooth as and just keeps performing, no issues with my handle being hard to turn, love it ------------- Getdatfish |
Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 12:28pm
|
Thanks Kevin. Looking at ordering the 4500H but will confirm with Digitaka first that that model is unaffected. ------------- Sea Strike 18' Centre Console - Under Construction.... http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/sea-strike-18-build-thread_topic87723_page1.html" rel="nofollow - Build Thread here |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 12:29pm
|
The only problem with buying offshore is sending it back for repair, still great reels ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
|
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 12:57pm
|
Derek / Mark, I'd be holding off until Daiwa do a press release that the issue has actual been properly rectified.... Local Daiwa agent currently doesn't run the new Catalina so as mentioned in and earlier post you could potentially be importing something that requires going back overseas... I can't see why Daiwa haven't stopped tackle retailers from continuing to sell knowing there's an issue... Still Toyota kept selling the Prius knowing there was an issue and that cost them big $$$$$$ when they finally recalled them... ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 1:23pm
|
Kevin, if Allan Hawke's info is correct and I would say it is as he's simply done a direct take on what Daiwa Japan has released is it's not just the Catalina that has the problem but two other models as well. Being the Saltiga and the Isla..
The only actual recall of these reels are the ones sold in Japan by the looks... as for the rest of the world they only intend to fix them on a reel by reel basis if they crap out... I can understand that to a point as the cost would be so massive to do a world wide recall over three models... but it opens up a whole can of worms if your $1700 Saltiga 6500 has a problem outside its warranty period related directly to the issue with the Mag Seal disc containing the fluid reservoir ...
Has anyone experienced this problem with there new model Mag Seal Saltiga ??? and was it resolved? I haven't seen anything from the NZ Daiwa agent alerting to a potential problem...
------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 9:27pm
|
Lots of comments on 360Tuna about these problems Graeme and yes even the Saltiga ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
|
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 10:10pm
Just heard from a friend who has returned his brand new never spooled Saltiga 6500 to the NZ Daiwa Agent with this problem.... I see that some tackle shops in the USA are pulling them from the shelves until further notice....
------------- www.synit.co.nz |
kaveman wrote:Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 8:26am
| Crikey I better forward this to me mates that have just brought the new saltigas . They won't be happy . |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 8:49am
|
Looking through the overseas forums like 360 Tuna as well as Alan Hawke's site it's clearly acknowledged by Daiwa Japan that there is a problem with 3 models of the Mag Sealed reels..... I'm sure the NZ Daiwa agent would have been made perfectly aware of the recall as well as a course of action for the effected reels sold here... ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: Rockstar from Mars
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 9:02am
|
so is it older models or does it include models sold recently? ------------- Winning..... |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 9:03am
|
They probably waiting for there 12 month warranty to kick over . |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 9:05am
|
Does daiwa nz have a representative that is a member of this forum ? . Now would be a good time to make a statement . |
Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 9:07am
|
Graeme, do you know which sizes are affected? Seems to be a lot of confusing info regarding this on the net. I would also have thought that the retailers in Japan would have removed the affected models from their shelves (I hope).... ------------- Sea Strike 18' Centre Console - Under Construction.... http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/sea-strike-18-build-thread_topic87723_page1.html" rel="nofollow - Build Thread here |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 9:11am
Copied and pasted from Alan Hawk Daiwa has issued a recall for the new Saltiga and Catalina, and I'd add the Isla to this since it's virtually a Catalina http://all.daiwa21.com/fishing/news/important/140109/index.html" rel="nofollow - ( http://all.daiwa21.com/fishing/news/important/140109/index.html" rel="nofollow - CLICK http://all.daiwa21.com/fishing/news/important/140109/index.html" rel="nofollow - ) . UPDATE:
The issue is in the mag-seal assembly. The disc containing the fluid
reservoir may come apart messing up the alignment with the magnet
sleeve, causing a noticeable heft in winding. Daiwa Japan is overwhelmed
by the number of recalled reels and repairs are quite slow, and
overseas local centres will deal with it on a reel-to-reel basis instead
of issuing a recall. ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
|
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 9:15am
| Thought high end Daiwa gear was better than Shimano...........hehehe |
Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 9:15am
there was a while back, I'd posted a query regarding my salty and he'd answered it. I just searched my posts but it seems to be gone.
|
Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 9:23am
| Does this affect other mag seal reels such as certate and caldia? |
Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 9:26am
|
Ive owned 2 of the new Certates with no issues. From what ive read its only the larger Catalina/Saltigas that have problems. ------------- Sea Strike 18' Centre Console - Under Construction.... http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/sea-strike-18-build-thread_topic87723_page1.html" rel="nofollow - Build Thread here |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 10:08am
I would have to check but I think its all models in the Saltiga, Catalina and Isla from 4500 upwards. The ratio doesn't come into it as it's the Mad Seal unit with the issue.... ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 10:40am
|
Bugger. Mine will be here in next couple of days.ahhhh. hope its not a problem.. ------------- Synit Prototype bender |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 10:55am
I would say if its come direct from a Japan Daiwa dealer they will know what's going on..so it may be ok... it should have come from replacement Daiwa stock as Daiwa wouldn't keep supplying defective products knowing they will only get them sent back under recall... I own 3 mag sealed reels but all other models to the effected ones... It may be a good time to start a new thread headed "Daiwa Japan Recall on Saltgia & Catalina" and get hold of a NZ Daiwa rep to confirm exactly what models and sizes are effected, what the issue is to eliminate speculation and what course of action they will undertake for the effected reels sold new here in NZ and if it is a world wide recall if those direct imported reels can be repaired here without having to ship them back to the point of origin... ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 12:59pm
|
I have sent an email to the NZ Daiwa agent inviting them to make an announcement regarding the recall on this website... depending on their response I will head up a new thread in the New Products and Announcement section...
The questions I have posed to them cover the following.... but I have asked that if they agree to make a statement that they don't get into answering barrage of other questions as a result from posts... I believe it only needs to cover the below so as not to get into a Daiwa vs any other brand of reel...
I'm out looking at properties with CJ for the next 2-3 hours so will post anything I receive when I get back...
Questions I have asked for an announcement on are
1) What makes, models and sizes in the Daiwa Mag Seal range are effected by the recall
2) What exactly is the reason for the recall
3) Will my Warranty be covered outside its period if the reel fails due to the described recall.
4) What will be the recourse of action from Daiwa NZ for the effected reels sold new here in NZ
5) What will be the recourse of action from Daiwa NZ for the effected reels bought into the country from Japan buy private buyers
6) What will be the recourse of action from Daiwa NZ for the effected reel privately bought into NZ from other countries outside Japan...
------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 1:09pm
| Thank you MIB,lets hope for a helpful response . |
Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 1:11pm
| Thanks Graeme. Looking forward to the response |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 1:22pm
|
I have to admit I'm not loyal to any reel brand, I buy on what I see is appropriate at the time. I own 3 Mag Sealed reels and a heap of Shimano's... I don't want to start a brand war it's more about letting those owners of the effected reels just what's happening and what they can expect... I don't feel Daiwa should be singled out just because they have had to take this action as Shimano had to a little while back with the Stella... I say good on them for making the recall but keep the owners and potential owners properly informed even if it's bad news... ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 1:30pm
|
Cheers Graeme, looking forward to a response from Daiwa NZ also. ------------- Sea Strike 18' Centre Console - Under Construction.... http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/sea-strike-18-build-thread_topic87723_page1.html" rel="nofollow - Build Thread here |
Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 3:50pm
|
I rang Daiwa Nz and they are not aware of this problem. All saltigas and catalinas are made to the same spec worldwide. They said they have had zero problems with the saltigas but obviously dont stock the catalinas. Digitaka said their reels are from brand new stock and have had zero warranty claims even on their old stock. Im not going to get overly worried about it. It doesnt sound like many have gone to the pack but they are aware of a potential problem and i would imagine they would potentially fix it even out of warranty being a recognised fault. To bloody late for me anyway.. lol ------------- Synit Prototype bender |
Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 4:01pm
|
[QUOTE=Muppet] Thought high end Daiwa gear was better than Shimano...........hehehe [/QUOTE couldnt help urself eh.. lol the stellas have had issues in the past to so i guess no company makes total perfection especially when new technology is being used. Im sure they will get it right. They are the worlds top two brands so im sure both manufacturers will stand behind their products now or in the future..] ------------- Synit Prototype bender |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 4:24pm
 Just a bit of a wind up MIB.
Disappointing that Daiwa NZ are not aware of the potential for problems though.
|
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 4:30pm
| Well if they weren't aware of it I would say after today there will be a few emails going back and forth from the distributors here . |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 4:41pm
4.30pm and nothing from Daiwa NZ yet but I wouldn't expect to see something straight away... Worries me though Derek that Daiwa NZ aren't aware of the problem... yet Digitaka are obviously up to play from Daiwa Japan with the problem and replaced their stock....
I think you may have got the standard line of reply on there being no problem as a know first hand from Alex that his brand new unspooled Saltiga 6500 has been returned with the problem..... ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 4:50pm
| De Nile is a river in Egypt . |
Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2014 at 6:17pm
|
Digitaka said they were unaware of the problem. Not sure if they have fixed the problem on the new stock or weather its stock from a warehouse full of old stock. I guess if only a few have the problem its easier to deal with that rather than recall every single one. I guess we will find out in time. ------------- Synit Prototype bender |
Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 10:00am
|
Daiwa rang me this morning. It seems that the saltigas that have been recalled were a bad batch. None of the nz or aus ones are effected. Thats why japan hadnt made contact with them. Im interested to know the serial numbers if anyone finds them. ------------- Synit Prototype bender |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 1:34pm
|
Reply from John Elliot at Daiwa NZ
Hi Graeme,
Thanks for your e-mail regarding Daiwa Saltiga Reels. Recently Daiwa Japan has announced a recall on Daiwa Saltiga reels that have exhibited a stiffer than normal rotation. The recall only affects certain reels from a recent manufacturing batch that was not exported to New Zealand.This issue does not affect any reels purchased in New Zealand from authorized Daiwa retailers. For Saltiga reels purchased outside of New Zealand consumers need to contact their point of purchase. Regards John *John Elliott* Seems like the Saltiga owners who purchased here in NZ can rest easy
I'm trying to find out for the guys here in NZ that have imported a Daiwa Salty or Catalina in recent months from overseas what the Serial number range of these effected reels are.. If you have just ordered one in the past two weeks it won't be from the effected batches of reels... ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 2:18pm
| Good to know that the issue is not widespread. Good that daiwa is on top of the situation |
Posted By: Cbro
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 5:35pm
| How would I know if the 2nd hand saltiga I own is from NZ or imported? |
Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 7:13pm
|
Primo!!! Mine should be here tomorrow.. just left customs... ------------- Synit Prototype bender |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 7:38pm
|
Sweet... Derek... if you're out fishing Sunday I'll come over Saturday Arvo with that little Prototype rod for you play with.... 1st beers on you and I'll only have time for the 1..... Will bring a couple of other things to show you... ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 8:06pm
------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 8:12pm
------------- Sea Strike 18' Centre Console - Under Construction.... http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/sea-strike-18-build-thread_topic87723_page1.html" rel="nofollow - Build Thread here |
Posted By: KaiKatcha
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2014 at 11:28pm
|
My new Catalina was imported just before Xmas and is a prime candidate for being in the problem batch. No issue yet with the handle winding, but will be keeping an eye on it. Very happy with the price and service I got from www.jpangler.com. ------------- Less today leaves more for tomorrow |
Posted By: KaiKatcha
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2014 at 11:30pm
|
On a slightly separate topic, does anyone know why Daiwa NZ (Brittain Wynyard) seem so disinterested in promoting the Daiwa fishing tackle? Daiwa Australia was all over this recall putting their local customers at ease days after it came out. Well over a week later and B.W. still "doesn't know anything about it". Coupled with the fact that B.W. only bother to bring in a fraction of the Daiwa range, leaves me constantly shopping overseas when I'd prefer to be buying and supporting local Kiwis. Dunno, just seems like they're squandering a top brand with lackluster effort IMO. ------------- Less today leaves more for tomorrow |
Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2014 at 3:02pm
| Daiwa could be the no 1 competition to shimano, its a great product, but as you say, very little promotion, poor pricing, small range, and pretty poor backup. Shame really |
Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2014 at 10:48am
|
I agree. I find myself buying things i need overseas. Eg.. the new catalina which in my opinion very close to saltiga in performance at a very reasonable price. A prime candidate for kiwi anglers. As the saltist range has been for years. I see so many dollars being spent offshore because of price and range issues from daiwa. What can you do?? Daiwa australia does a far better job and hats off to them. Obviously better people managing it.. ------------- Synit Prototype bender |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2014 at 11:37am
|
I'm not sure as to why Daiwa NZ didn't continue with the Catalina series... I can understand why they have limited their range to mostly lower to mid cost reels as this makes up bulk of kiwi anglers price budget....plus the cost of carrying spares across a large range of reel types can be expensive to stock... As previously mentioned it opens the door to private importing from overseas on reel series that can't be obtained here.... As for the way Daiwa products are priced in NZ a lot would come down to expected margins on each range both wholesale and retail... Must understand that NZ makes up less than 1% of global tackle sales and buying from a "E" sales outlet from overseas that has low overheads and high turnover and don't have to worry about warranty etc will always screw our local prices... Online sales will eventually see the end to the small tackle shops here... Its happening already with the likes of Marine Deals and Torpedo 7 ...add in low cost topend reels with no shipping fees from overseas and it speeds up the process of these local shops going out of business.. There will always be those that want to see first hand what they are buying but with the number of online tackle reviews, forums like this, anglers soon get a good picture of what's a good product and what's not...it's then a simple matter on getting online with your credit card... At least guys like Greg at Go Fish have made a great effort at giving the best price and best advice...both online and in person... ------------- www.synit.co.nz |