Shimano Kaibutsu
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Popper and Topwater Fishing
Forum Description: If you're into a bit of action on top, this is the forum for you
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Printed Date: 06 Jun 2026 at 1:08pm
Topic: Shimano Kaibutsu
Posted By: the angler
Subject: Shimano Kaibutsu
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2013 at 6:29am
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Want to get into a bit of popper and stick bait action this summer , got a twin power 10 k just need a idiot stick to go with it kaibutsus seem to come up for sale fairly regularly for reasonable money are they the go? I see there are two types . Any suggestions .? |
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Posted By: alan syme
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2013 at 9:13am
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hi the angler.they are good and do the job, I've landed lots of good sized gts on them. I like the 8 ft 2 length for long casting into the reef but some others prefer a rod shorter than this for the fight. I like the length as it means my lures goes further and spends more time on/in the water. my theory is you have to hook the fish first before you worry about the leverage fighting it from a longer rod good bang for buck and certainly can handle most nz kingfish situations. they are not a carpenter or jigging master etc but neither is the price. daiwa has some good reasonably priced options also, have a look what Milan and Nathan use on big angry fish as examples. shimano kaibutsu have the two standard models available in nz that I am aware of, others will know more than me, eg Keiren from shimano on here. but from what I understand: shimano kaibutsu pencil instrument is more for stickbaiting shimano kaibutsu caranax is more for popping but either can do both within reason, I brought the caranax as it was stiffer for popping in the tropics and had a higher pe rating. matched mine with a stella 18k and it does the business. my 5 cents anyway, others may have differing views but hope this helps  |
Posted By: The Badger
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2013 at 10:03am
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Hi Angler, I have a Shimano Kaibutsu Caranx for sale if you're interested. $350 plus p&p. It is in mint condition. Not a mark on it. Also have an Offshore Illusion multi weight spin 24 - 37kg which I will sell for $400 plus p&p. This would be a much better match for Kingi fishing. It has a softer action which suits stickbaits a lot better. Ton's of stopping power when you need it. Also in mint condition. Only selling because I have upgraded. PM me if you're interested in either rod.
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2013 at 11:14am
| Is that the one on trade me ? Is the custom offshore a blue 7ft one ? |
Posted By: campbellc
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2013 at 12:30pm
| The offshore blows the kaibutsu out of the water , go the kaibutsu if you don't like your spine . |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2013 at 3:31pm
haha, agree Campbell, thats why i sold mine -------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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campbellc wrote:Posted By: The Badger
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2013 at 8:14pm
No it's not on Trade Me. Offshore is 7'8" and yes it is blue.
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Posted By: footey
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2013 at 9:03pm
| Pm sent |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2013 at 9:11pm
| Ok , I have the 7 ft illusion thought it to be a bit short to get a decent fling , may just be my technique. |
Posted By: The Badger
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2013 at 5:58pm
| Offshore sold pending pmt. |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2013 at 6:17pm
| Any one used the 7 ft 24 - 37 kg illusion for poppers etc ? |
Posted By: ELEVAR
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2013 at 7:05pm
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the 7ft aint too bad for poppers as they are a lot stiffer than the 76, still not ideal but id own one for a popper rod.. zac
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Posted By: alan syme
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2013 at 8:46pm
| big difference in casting distance of a 7 ft rod v longer one, I once used a 7 ft 6 and that was too short for me, just my opinion. |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 6:49am
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Yep can't seem to get much distance , lack of practise maybe ? .7 ft does seem short for a popper rod . If I was to sell it to buy a longer one does anyone know what a illusion series 24 37 7ft popper rod in very good nick would fetch on the second hand market , kind of put of kaibutsus now may have to find a bigger offshore . |
Posted By: The Badger
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 7:32am
| Kaibutsu Caranx is excellent for what is was built for i.e casting and working big poppers. The Kaibutsu Pencil Instrument is designed for stick baits and is also very good for that application. |
Posted By: willis likes to Jiggy Jig
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2013 at 12:58pm
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Interesting chat.. how would the heaveyer kaibutsu go for throwing a bait at marlin?? thoughts? |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2013 at 1:32pm
| Any one know what a custom offshore illusion popper rod 7 ft in good very good nick be worth roughly ? |
Posted By: ET487
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2013 at 6:24pm
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Is taht the one with the metal reel seat of Fuji/plastic? |
Posted By: ET487
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2013 at 6:25pm
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oops! i mean "that" |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2013 at 7:39pm
| It's got the blue alps reel seat , got a punter keen on it dunno how much it worth tho , maybe trade me with a dollar reserve best bet. |
Posted By: pirate
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2013 at 7:55pm
| Or you could stop been a tightarse and give it to me for what you payed for it |
Posted By: ET487
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2013 at 8:33pm
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Those 7 foot rods are good for casting big poppers. I saw you already got a TW 10 k. I use a Daiwa Demon Blood 762 with my TW and it an awesome combo. Good for casting stickbaits and poppers. Not ideal but for the money it's the best. I bought my Demon Blood for $300 new. I have a few mates here on the island and they might want to buy that Offshore as we only use poppers here and big one's. I send you a PM. |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2013 at 11:22pm
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Kurt @ Poppin Tonga put's his Kaibutsu Long Cast to good use on the Geets... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: willis likes to Jiggy Jig
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2013 at 1:49am
| Hay Angler would you be keen to swap for designer flesh lite.. pamerla anderson mould.. only used twice and have put it threw the washing machine since used.. comes with box etc... |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2013 at 6:31am
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Dunno man I heard bad things about the palm Anderson modal , could be a bit like throwing a sausage roll down queen street . |