Keep Marlin Out of the QMS!
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Topic: Keep Marlin Out of the QMS!
Posted By: LegaSea - Adam
Subject: Keep Marlin Out of the QMS!
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 12:03pm
Please support this campaign to tell the minister to keep his grubby hands off our marlin! Link to campaign page: http://www.legasea.co.nz/marlin-position-statement.php" rel="nofollow - http://www.legasea.co.nz/marlin-position-statement.php Please also share and encourage others to make a stand as it can make a difference. http://www.facebook.com/LegaSea?ref=hl#!/photo.php?fbid=384988771609974&set=a.187557701353083.37295.156009967841190&type=1" rel="nofollow - Link to Facebook post Thanks!
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Posted By: AlexFyssher
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 12:26pm
Cheers. Will share with all friends 
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Posted By: Gowest
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 12:44pm
done 
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Posted By: daveo
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 1:04pm
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Done and shared on FB ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: snapper14
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 1:07pm
What daveo said.  ------------- If a man goes nowhere and theres no one there to see him, did he ever leave? Munter - Outrageous Fortune. |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 1:27pm
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Well done Adam and Legasea http://www.legasea.co.nz/marlin-position-statement.php" rel="nofollow - http://www.legasea.co.nz/marlin-position-statement.php ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: doncod
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 1:44pm
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done |
Posted By: Fishybznz
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 1:49pm
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Great work guys. Shared through NZ Fisher as well. Hopefully everyone can keep passing this on to everyone they know too. Perhaps chuck it in the Briney Bar where more people tend to look on the site? ------------- NZFisher: Get your free monthly fishing magazine emailed straight to you. http://www.nzfisher.co.nz |
Posted By: SufixRockMan
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 2:23pm
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Posted By: too much
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 2:24pm
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DONE ------------- GO HARD STAND TALL |
Posted By: Mercy
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 2:45pm
Done
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 2:53pm
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and there it is....a structured and reasoned campaign to actively do 'something' positively to get the "hands off message" out there.....much better than what has been doing the rounds recently and other poorly worded dishevelled mob mentality correspondence to MPs etc wont get the sort of responces required. Way to go LegaSea....champions!! ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Bugzy
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 2:56pm
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Done and Shared!!! ------------- Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. |
Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 3:05pm
Who's marlin? ------------- Support your local 81 Big red machine. HAMC |
LegaSea - Adam wrote:Posted By: Boxee
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 3:44pm
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Sell a Man a fish and he will feed himself for a day. Preserve the right to fish, by supporting fish stocks, and you have social and economic benefits that last for many lifetimes.
DONE
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Posted By: Whippa-Schnapper
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 3:45pm
our marlin..  WE should all have a say, not just leave it up to a handful of bureaucrats and comm. fisherman to make big decisions on fish we are all entitled to enjoy. Thanks to Legasea for making it easy for US to have a say! ------------- keen fisho |
Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 3:48pm
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Who's marlin? ------------- Support your local 81 Big red machine. HAMC |
Posted By: crisp
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 4:14pm
| They must be yours Merlin |
Posted By: Seasider
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 4:47pm
| Done and shared |
Posted By: :Hunter:
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 5:04pm
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Likewise |
Posted By: dirtyharry
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 5:05pm
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Done ------------- I waste most of my money on fishing tackle. The rest I invest in women and booze. |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 5:25pm
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Done and already had reply below from NZ first Thank you for your email. Due to the volume of correspondence received it may not be possible for me to send you a personal response, however you may rest assured that all incoming emails are read, and I will endeavour to respond to all enquiries within my portfolio areas in as timely a manner as possible.
Richard Prosser MP New Zealand First List MP based in Rangiora Spokesperson for Primary Industries, Police, Law & Order, Customs & Biosecurity, and Outdoor Recreation Associate Spokesperson For Defence and Veterans' Affairs
Freepost, Private Bag 18-888, Parliament Buildings, Wellington Ph +64 4 817 8363 -------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 5:25pm
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Done and shared. Everyone needs to get behind this. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/GForceLures http://www.gforcelures.co.nz/ [email protected] 0211640204 |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 5:30pm
Same Kev I got plenty of "Out of Office Replies"... must be out having arvo big nose coffees and Sherries.  ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 5:30pm
| http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/your-help-required-to-save-marlin_topic91132.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/your-help-required-to-save-marlin_topic91132.html |
Posted By: Marligator
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 5:40pm
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Done and shared, through my teenage daughters friends. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Spectrum
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 5:44pm
| great work legasea shared |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 6:08pm
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done & shared ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: poppatrev
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 6:46pm
| done |
Posted By: full sacks
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 7:21pm
all happy faces but WHO ARE GOING TO BE THE MARLIN POLICE WHAT A JOKE!!! are we going to unwrap the air force. cant even control snapper ,but those Chinese long liners wont take any will they!!!!!
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Posted By: segador
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 7:55pm
awesome stuff legasea done my bit and will have some mulla for you soon
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 8:57pm
at least people are trying, poorly worded or not making a difference for others is what some are about ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 9:29pm
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Very good letter. Thanks for writing it. I'm in. Emailed out too but can't help with facebook tho. |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 9:40pm
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Adam we have a couple of comps up here one on queens birthday the other in july if you have any bits and pieces or more info I can get the info out to all attendees if it helps.
------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: alan syme
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 10:11pm
| well done legacy good work, very easy to fill out and send. thanks |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 9:01am
| DONE |
Posted By: Gowest
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 9:03am
| What else can we do about this? How do we get the message out to all the other rec fishers out there that aren't on this forum? If I wasn't on here I wouldn't of even known this was happening! Maybe get all the tackle shops to get in behind it to? Take it to Campbell Live? I don't know. The public need to be made aware of this somehow. |
Posted By: KikBac
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 9:20am
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Be careful what you wish for. There are many in the wider community (animal rights groups etc.) that consider game fishing is cruel and want to see it banned outright. This would be further ammunition for their cause. Plus comm's will point to what many will view as obvious waste of throwing perfectly good fish over the side. Best to focus on the success of the Billfish moratorium, the status quo is working - lets keep it that way! ------------- Beer: the most important meal of the day. |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 9:24am
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GoWest - there is a big consolidation of media going on in behind the scenes right at this minute and once thrashed-out will present some very clear and unified messages across multi communication streams........some very passionate folks are working on this. That is not to say "down tools" someone else has it under control - get out there and direct as many people as you can to the LegaSea message and petition. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Gowest
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 9:33am
My only wish is that this doesn't happen. Reassuring to know that things are happening behind the scenes.
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Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 10:46am
Perhaps getting Legacies message and letter out to all the fishing clubs in NZ, and then tackle stores and so on... ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: alstoy
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 12:02pm
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Most Clubs have newsletters, it would be easy to have each club include a message and a link with their newsletter, I will ensure it is in the New Plymouth one due out soon. Spread the Word. |
Posted By: v8-coupe
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 1:07pm
Aye Kerren. However if enough of the dishevelled mob correspond with their MPs they may just realize the "mob" is bigger and angrier than they thought. I have done both. Joined LegaSea and harassed many MPs.
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 1:24pm
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Good for you V8.........hopefully one or both will get positive action.....I just know when I get harassed about anything by anyone the first course of action is to generally ignore it especially if the message isn't clear or fueled by emotion rather than informed. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: riga
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 1:35pm
| Good work legasea, done and shared |
Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 2:28pm
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SO what is everyone doing about the billfish qms then? let legasea do all the work? or are people going to march in numbers and protest.. cause if no one is willing to step up and save the billfish while they are here, then i can see them going the way of the yellowfin ....need i remind you how that turned out... ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> MH... Catch measure release...<*))))< |
Posted By: TIN RIB
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 2:30pm
| great thread and put my name to it |
Posted By: v8-coupe
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 8:21pm
Nah Kerren, you know me, I never get emotional, although I have been known to ramble at times. By harassed, I mean a polite, informed and sometimes flowery piece of prose that is hopefully not to verbose. Lol.  Now for the important stuff. How's my photo going?  Cheers Graham |
Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 8:34pm
| Done! |
Posted By: Twocan
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 8:59pm
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To be honest I believe personally written letters are just as important in the policy process. They will quickly come to understand that the Legasea emails are mass produced and very quick to produce (dont think I am degrading the importance of it) when they are also inundated with individual letters it will hopefully get the message that there is a strong lobbying body in Legasea as well as passionate and fired up individuals out there that care. Individual letters to local MPs and the ministers responsible also have the potential to be read and responded to individually rather than a generic mass email which will become a statistic (albeit hopefully a very powerful one with over 2500 generated in a matter of days). Hopefully our fellow fishoes in Otaki will also take the time to knock on Nathan Guy's electorate office and take a few minutes of his time to show all fishoes in this country care and its not just a few people up north in safe National seats. We need people in Northland taking to Mike Sabin, Helensville talking to Key, Whangarei talking to Phil Heatly (ex fisheries minsiter) I am sure Legasea has alot of these bases covered but in the political process it never hurts to let local MPs know there is a local face to the issue in their own backyard. Rant over and out. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ELEVAR
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 9:33pm
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done and shared!!, but I added my personal opinion at the top every one on this site needs to do this! zac
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Posted By: Bigfishbob
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 10:18pm
Leave no stone unturned on this one guys, for our MPs to hear a resoudning message in surround sound from all corners of the country on this issue won't be a bad thing. The legasea thing is just one front, keep targetting memebrs of parliament and anybody who cares to listen or not. The message WILL get through. ------------- www.waikatosportfishing.co.nz |
Posted By: gollyfish
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 11:07pm
| weird..my pc wont open the legasea site! |
Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 11:20pm
This is exactly how they operate. Email's just don't cut it. As they are a public servant they have to reply to each and every written letter that is sent to them. It doesn't take a rocket scientist too work out that having to personally respond to each written letter is just going to be a real pain in the butt for Nathan's press secretary Stu. Just imagine how many envelope's he'd have to lick if he was bombarded with the damn things..... I'm sure they'd get the message than. Yes they know about this, but it's letters people. I can't emphasise this enough. Now, who has put in a submission? ------------- Support your local 81 Big red machine. HAMC |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 6:51am
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well said guys it is a shame that we are ridiculed because we want to have a say.
but be carefull you will be removed from the friends list on face book
 haters are like crickets, make a lot of noise and are never seen but face to face are very quiet
Ben as your in the commercial sector your input here is valuable thanks for it all. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 3:13pm
Yes, that is the question. As an example, I had a good discussion with a fish and game council member quite a few years ago about this type of question. At that particular time it was general election time from memory, and they were finding that when it came to voting for representatives for each fish and game region, even licenced season holders couldn't be bothered voting, or the voter turnout was just plain poor for whatever reason. Whilst the council were representing licenced season holders, it still comes down to the public to do there bit also. Another example of writing letters to the government was him telling me he would tell members/ licence season holders to do just that, and in one particular instance I think that there was only a handful of letters sent down from licenced season holders out of god knows how many thousand for a submission on some particular topic which effected members at that particular time.... It will be interesting to see how this topic develops in regard to the outcome of how many submissions are sent in from the public as a whole rather than a NGO organisation sending one submission on behalf of all of it's members. ------------- Support your local 81 Big red machine. HAMC |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 4:01pm
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Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 4:08pm
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Lol, i'll eat my own words than ------------- Support your local 81 Big red machine. HAMC |
Posted By: AlexFyssher
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 4:32pm
| Great!!!! |
Posted By: Bigfishbob
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 4:38pm
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Good work Lads and Ladesses, Right then back to Yellowfin Tuna....... ------------- www.waikatosportfishing.co.nz |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 4:43pm
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Ur not wrong BBF!....nothing like a well organised campaign with 'teeth'....hopefully a similar campaign will surface soon. Im picking that several news agencies would have been in contact with the ministers office late this morning asking for comment and would have given him a case of the jitters...feels good to be a kiwi right now...:) Another contribution to LegaSea pending...:) ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: snapper14
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 4:50pm
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Posted By: Boz19
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 5:28pm
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Awesome awesome news. How good is that. Made my Friday.
So great to see people pull together to protect our fisheries. All those emails werent for nothing.
Congratulations Legasea crew, no doubt you are knocking the top off a few celebratory coldies this evening.
Great way to clock up 4000 posts as well
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Posted By: kiwiboy_
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 5:29pm
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"Who's marlin?" ......well while they grace "our" beautiful coastline........they are everyone's recreationally to see, catch and eat. And may it stay that way for ever! AMEN ------------- You gotta be in the right place at the right time |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 6:43pm
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well thats awesome well done legasea now we have protected them in most part around our economic zone I hope we can get one and go further a field how long before the biomass get hammered in places like the whanganellas and other areas of the pacific well done legasea and those who fronted up with their own concerns to various people a win for the little people
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Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 7:43pm
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Good!
Well done the Legasea.
Like a lot of things doing nothing , generally leads to nothing... while doing something may change something.
And Fishermen (myself included) who enjoy our sport sometimes need to be encouraged or organised to get off their chuff to protect what we currently have.
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Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 8:33pm
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Excellent news and great to see a concerted, unified effort from a number of people have a positive result. Top work from the Legasea team ------------- Online... |
Posted By: John H
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 8:37pm
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Great news for the marlin. The immediate response from so many fishers here and through the clubs has been outstanding. Thanks Grunta and the crew for your support. A hectic few days for the Legasea crew, WDKU will only make us stronger. |
Posted By: LegaSea - Adam
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 8:38pm
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Congratulations New Zealand - Marlin are officially NOT FOR SALE!
A massive thank you to all the passionate people
who joined with LegaSea to save our marlin from commercial exploitation.
Together we really can make a difference to our fishing future. Please consider contributing to LegaSea, by visiting our website http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.legasea.co.nz&h=wAQGI23WL&s=1" rel="nofollow - ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 8:43pm
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www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EaTSAF0FhJY Thanks ITM ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 10:50pm
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Thats great news. Just sometimes things go our way ..... not by accident though. Big ups for those that cared enough |
Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 10:18am
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Awesome news ! ! ! Now lets do the same thing with YFT ! ! ! ! :) x ------------- http://www.blackbillsportfishing.co.nz/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: crisp
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 11:24am
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Great Result
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Posted By: karm
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 4:42pm
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Fantastic result. big ups for all the forum members who submitted either personally or through the LegaSea campaign. I must fess up here, I am embarrassed to say ...  I had previously thought LegaSea were pretty ho hum & a bit under whelming..., but having chatted to them at the boat show and seeing how they responded to this issue and every enquiry I have put there way in the last few days has been answered quickly, with relevant info & in a totally professional way , I am glad I am a LegaSea contributor  wished I had given more - I know thats never too lateCAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW to put the LegaSea avatar as part of my fishing.net page "Nothing succeeds like success" cheers Mark
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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 4:52pm
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"Legasea supporters can display a 'Contributor' banner in their signature and there's also an image for your avatar - either or both is good. The code for your signature file is as follows - NB: Just type in the code as if I type that in here it will just display the logo and the code won't be visible:  Finished result looks like this: http://www.legasea.co.nz/" rel="nofollow"> And here's the signature image for the avatar. Just right click, save to your desktop and then load as a new avatar. 
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Posted By: karm
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 5:03pm
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thanks Bill ------------- http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/uploads/53719/Legasea-contributor-avatar.jpg |
Posted By: segador
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 6:51pm
thanks legasea for all your efforts makes al us marlin nuts very happy one for the good guys 
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Posted By: LegaSea - Adam
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 9:41pm
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Hey guys, thanks for all your support. I've PM'd a few of you with answer to some of your questions/suggestions. Crazy week last week but it brought out the best in a lot of people. We had a huge campaign planned that we never quite got to fully show off because MPI made a much quicker than expected decision. We can only assume that they saw what was about to hit the fan and turned it off. In order for us all to get the results we want weve got to be able to show our numbers. Not as individuals horay horahing everynow and then, but in a unified and organised manner. Check out the NRA in the US. Gun control laws would be tightened overnight if it wasnt for the massive political clout that the NRA has. Why are they so powerful? Because they have organised numbers and money. To put it in perspective US population: 314m NRA members: 5m % of pop: 1.59% So in NZ, if 1.59% of kiwis joined with LegaSea we would have the equivalent numbers as the NRA. That's 69,960 kiwis. There are 1m kiwis who particiapte in fishing each year. It's do'able i reckon! But it's going to cost $$$ The governement and industry are relying on individuals to be lazy, too busy, and not committed or organised enough to oppose them. Only you can prove them wrong. We are here to help you do that in the easiest possible way. Dont over think it, just do it! http://www.legasea.co.nz/contribute/index.php" rel="nofollow - http://www.legasea.co.nz/contribute/index.php ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 9:58pm
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Adam what's being done about getting yft back into nz waters? or is it out of nz hands once pass the Eez...
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Posted By: daveo
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 10:18pm
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Love your work legasea! ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 1:36am
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Perfectly summed up Adam.....individuals are just that. The potential of Legasea is massive and has been from inception. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 10:41am
Outside our exclusive economic zone ( 200 miles offshore) it is classed as international waters and is deemed fishing on the high seas, which in a nut shell basically means there's no fishing quota to fill and is really a free for all for all of those commercial operators concerned. As an example, often you get a lot of Chinese and Spanish fishing operations coming down here from Fiji and Tonga to fish for albacore and big-eye tuna, broadbill swordfish, marlin, sharks and yellow fin where they fish just out side of our exclusive 200 mile zone. As the pelagic species head into our waters from about late November these operates follow these tuna schools right down from the pacific islands until they reach our waters and often set up shop right on our border's for weeks on end intercepting the tuna schools and other migratory fish that come through. As the tuna depart again at the end of our season and head to warmer climes the operators fish for them as they head north again. At present if a New Zealand fishing company/ companies wanted to exclusively target and land marlin whether it be for export or for the local market, they could legitimately do so providing they had the proper survey and paper work to do it. This in turn would see the New Zealand fishing operation do exactly what the Chinese and Spanish are doing and go out beyond 200 miles offshore, catch and land marlin and return to there NZ port of operation and unload them. As there is no quota areas out there they can also unload as much tonnage as they wish New Zealand has a relatively small surface long line fleet, and in comparison to the Chinese and Spanish most of our operators are that small they have to unload there catch as quick as possible and in best possible condition for export then per say a Chinese or Spanish operation who have the ability too blast freeze there fish and can stay out for weeks on end and just stockpile there catch in their home countries, which is what they are planning on doing when catches decline over time. Some of these Spanish vessels are so advanced they are really factory boat operations. They can set many thousand's more hooks than our domestic fleets ( In some instances they have an auto bait machine where you don't have to physically bait up a hook yourself),They are very big and can hold tons of fish and process marlin, tuna and broadbill quickly and it goes without saying that they sometimes have a crew of about 20 people. Could a New Zealand vessel have the ability to do this you may ask? . Well, it's a big yes and previously one New Zealand company had a vessel called the Daniel Soulander has done this. They got surface long line for weeks on end and had the capabilities to blast freeze northern and southern blue fin tuna. ------------- Support your local 81 Big red machine. HAMC |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 11:00am
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yes mate like I said earlier we have protected our coast line but no where else, a few weeks at say the whangies and they would decimate the fishery, like you say Ben high seas fishing and no quota a free for all for those who can be there ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: snapper14
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 11:37am
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Gotta give credit where it's due. I copied in our local MP and got this reply to let me know he had followed up on it. Shane, Thank you for copying me in on your email to Minster Nathan Guy about New Zealand's marlin fishery. I have made contact with Nathan's office to seek more information on this. I am informed that the Minister has not had any intention to change the current rules around marlin fishing. It seems that the Ministry has previously held two rounds of consultation with both recreational and commercial stakeholders regarding the best way to manage by-catch as part if NZ's tuna fishery. As a result of this consultation they have decided not to recommend any change to the current marlin fishing rules and therefore marlin will remain a non commercial species in New Zealand waters. The ministry have issued a press release clarifying this which I have copied below. Thanks again for your email. Best wishes. Todd McClay MP ------------- If a man goes nowhere and theres no one there to see him, did he ever leave? Munter - Outrageous Fortune. |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 11:42am
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Todd McClay for PM!...that is refreshing! ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 12:22pm
| yeah right.elections next year |
Posted By: snapper14
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 1:48pm
Jeepers. You're a hard man to please. 😄 What did your MP do? Election year or otherwise? ------------- If a man goes nowhere and theres no one there to see him, did he ever leave? Munter - Outrageous Fortune. |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 2:04pm
telling me everything i want to hear but will not put it writing,so i am still at square 1 till it is in writing. this same office mpi told me last year our snapper stock has been in better shape.when phil heatly was minister i emailed him after he appeared on gone fishing Well done to stop commercial marlin fishing. But this govt would sell off fur seals if there was enough money in it,sorry i for one will not be fooled
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Posted By: John H
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 11:13am
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High seas fishing In 2006 a striped marlin Conservation and Management Measure was passed by the Western and Central Pacific Fisheries Commission (WCPFC) to limit the number of vessels targeting striped marlin. This rule applies to NZ boats in international waters. It was pointed out to the Ministry at last weeks marlin meeting that a commercial vessel had targeted marlin outside the zone, and this was a breach of the international agreement. To fish on the high seas a NZ commercial vessel needs a high seas permit and must be on the WCPFC vessel register. It is up to NZ officials to ensure that NZ vessels follow the rules or they will not be issued a permit. Current information is that the Spanish vessels that were fishing east of NZ have moved on. A lot of the new Chinese fishing effort is North of 15 deg S. At those latitudes some small striped marlin are taken as bycatch, few adults though. We still need to be vigilant, the marlin stock is small and quite vulnerable.
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Posted By: rustler
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 12:32pm
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lets keep the ball rolling, ban importation of marlin into nz regardless of where its caught. ------------- 'Politically Correct' a misguided bunch of morons who think they can pick up a piece of **** by the clean end. |
Posted By: snapper14
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 9:41am
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Just read on another forum's newsletter that United Future is looking to add quote"substantial saltwater fishing policy such as making kahawai and kingfish recreational only species". Not sure if this is election year spin but it was Peter Dunne who has pushed the Big Game Animal Council through so that hunters have a say in how animals are managed so he has some history in supporting similar sports. Has Legasea had any contact or alignment with these guys? pjc - sorry to hear that you have had issues with your MP but whether this is an election year or not at least Todd McClay took the time to follow up on the letter and reply. I know he also hunts and fishes so give the guy some credit where credit is due. Doesn't matter what party he belongs to. ------------- If a man goes nowhere and theres no one there to see him, did he ever leave? Munter - Outrageous Fortune. |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 3:33pm
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Just received an email from our local(Coromandel/ National MP) They are on the same wavelength as most of us. Copy below Dear Kevin
Thank you for your email to the Minister of Primary Industries which you also copied to me.
I’m pleased to let you know there will be no changes to the management of striped marlin.
The National-led Government recognises the considerable value that the recreational game fishing for striped marlin provides, both in monetary terms and more importantly in the enjoyment it brings to both New Zealanders and tourists.
Recently the Ministry for Primary Industries brought recreational and commercial interests together to find common ground. Despite this, consensus was not reached and as such the existing management plan will remain unchanged.
It’s important to note that should any agreement to change the status quo have been reached, these would still be subject to wider stakeholder and public consultation before any final decision could be made.
I encourage you to follow this link to the Ministry’s press release on this matter if you require more information. http://mpi.govt.nz/news-resources/news/no-changes-to-management-of-striped-marlin" rel="nofollow -
Thank you for taking time to write to me to let me know your concerns.
Kind regards Scott ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 3:48pm
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Well looks like we can stop some forms of fishing. but if you're not in nz you can plunder the high sea's as you wish to.. merlin the marlin is this the boat http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1571482" rel="nofollow - http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1571482 if so yer looks like it can stay out for weeks. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> MH... Catch measure release...<*))))< |
Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 4:29pm
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Yip, that's the one. It doesn't fish now as far as I'm aware in New Zealand. Our chief engineer used to work on there. At the time most crew were New Zealanders working on it. They used to catch Bluefin tuna right down to the Auckland Island's on it. ------------- Support your local 81 Big red machine. HAMC |
Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 5:41pm
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Can always set it up for snapper fishing in the gulf ;) thin them snapper out up there, you lot have to much snapper :) :)
------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> MH... Catch measure release...<*))))< |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 31 May 2013 at 3:18pm
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From the Whangarei MP; Dear Allan Thank
you for your email regarding your concerns that there may be changes to the
management of striped marlin. I’m
pleased to let you know there will be no changes to the management of striped
marlin. The
National-led Government recognises the considerable value that the recreational
game fishing for striped marlin provides, both in monetary terms and more
importantly in the enjoyment it brings to both New Zealanders and tourists. Recently the
Ministry for Primary Industries brought recreational and commercial interests
together to find common ground. Despite this, consensus was not reached and as
such the existing management plan will remain unchanged. It’s
important to note that should any agreement to change the status quo have been
reached, these would still be subject to wider stakeholder and also public
consultation before any final decision could be made. I encourage
you to follow this link to the Ministry’s press release on this matter if you
require more information. http://mpi.govt.nz/news-resources/news/no-changes-to-management-of-striped-marlin" rel="nofollow - . Thank you
again for being concerned enough to contact me as your local MP. Kind regards Phil Hon
Phil Heatley MP
for Whangarei P
O Box 345, Whangarei 0140 Ph
09 4389992 ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: AlexFyssher
Date Posted: 31 May 2013 at 3:58pm
Bloody John Banks. He hasn't sent me a reply  . I voted for him though so can't complain lol
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