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Topic: few pics of land bassed lure caught fish
Posted By: Michael Jenkins
Subject: few pics of land bassed lure caught fish
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 7:09pm
been doing more and more of this sort of fishing land bassed (along with a heap of softbaiting) and thought i'd post a few pics. Just something a bit different really. Yes some of the fish shown are undersized and were carefully released after a quick photo. feel free to ask questions Smile


1st snapper on a sebile flat shad/1st snapper on a hardbody


snapper on a little rapala x-rap


cheeky little hiwihiwi launched out of the kelp and swiped it from right infront of a snapper


not really a hardbody, but a type of small inchinku


trevally on a sebile flat shad


wee mousey king caught on a sebile flat shad, no berley trail just free casting


whole lot of lure and not much fish to bite it hahaha!


pannie on a rapala x-rap


Best snap on a hardbody to date, 50cm on the same rapala x-rap as above, that lure's got a few teeth marks in it now


small snapper on a popper: the fish of a thousand casts haha! only one out of many retrives gets approached, only one out of many approaches gets a swipe, only one out of many swipes gets a hookup and only one out of 3 hookups has resulted in a landed fish.... .....so forgive me if i haven't even really tried for another since getting the 1st haha! might have to revisit this with the better average size of fish about at the moment.






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Posted By: Boffhead
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 7:47pm
That looks like wicked fun bro! What's the technique for those lures off the bricks?


Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 8:11pm
That's impressive Michael, snapper on rapalas and poppers.


Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 8:16pm
nice mate brings back nice memories of days gone by doing it up at Hihi

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Posted By: landman
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 9:25am
Choice stuff myself and brown dog are on a mission to do more lure shore fishing this winter hope we can post results like that.


Posted By: deacs
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 9:43am
Nice one MJ, which lure has been your most successful? Hard bodies worked better than softbaits?


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Posted By: Fenien
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 10:12am
Nice work MJ.Lures are where its atThumbs Up


Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 4:53pm
Nice work Michael, hopefully others will be able to add their pictures and stories of Land Based Lure success, its certainly a challenging way to fish.Thumbs Up

Cant believe the Hiwihiwi took a lure, brought a smile to my face, but hey its another species I guess.


Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 4:57pm
Nice MJ, been lovin' the light lil' allures as of late also, great fun.


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Posted By: DIY!
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 6:59pm
Nice stuff alright, I have been softbaiting thru and thru and have had a go on jitterbugs.. they are good fun but not too much too it... thanks for posting


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Posted By: Michael Jenkins
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 8:43pm
Boffhead: this is what i know so far: for bibed minnows(rapala cd's etc) suspending or sinking slowly=good, movement/wiggle at low speed=good, flash=good, uv reflective=good, floating back up after pausing=bad.

cast them out  wide and sweep'n'wind with the rod tip close to the water to get it down, then slow retrive with pauses, or sweeping the rod up high with pauses to lift the lure up higher in the water if you start hitting the bottom.

if your not getting right down and wind up fishing mid water in the particular spot you're in with the lures you have, retrive along side any structure that is poking up from the depths, snapper are more comfortable moving higher in the water column if they've got a wall of kelp beside them


Posted By: Boffhead
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 9:06pm
Choice bro that's great info, hopefully be given the technique a crack Queens B-day wkend, any recommendations on brand's of lures? What weight of lure u use for each type?


Posted By: loodafish
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 5:17pm
Mate thats primo!!! Looks like heaps of fun and cheap and cheerful too eh


Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 7:36pm
Thats some awsome work. had some doubts on the hard bodys but i think you have proved that they work well


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by Michael Jenkins Michael Jenkins wrote:

Boffhead: this is what i know so far: for bibed minnows(rapala cd's etc) suspending or sinking slowly=good, movement/wiggle at low speed=good, flash=good, uv reflective=good, floating back up after pausing=bad.

cast them out  wide and sweep'n'wind with the rod tip close to the water to get it down, then slow retrive with pauses, or sweeping the rod up high with pauses to lift the lure up higher in the water if you start hitting the bottom.

if your not getting right down and wind up fishing mid water in the particular spot you're in with the lures you have, retrive along side any structure that is poking up from the depths, snapper are more comfortable moving higher in the water column if they've got a wall of kelp beside them


Have you tried them from a boat?


Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 8:53pm
Originally posted by loodafish loodafish wrote:

Looks like heaps of fun and cheap and cheerful too eh


Definitely fun but cheap? Don't think so


Posted By: Michael Jenkins
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 6:29pm
bah! where'd the rest of my reply go? there was more i'm sure:

BA: have you done a bit of this sort of thing in your land-bassed past? keen to hear what you used and what worked? I remember reading that some of the 1st softbaiting for snapper in this country was done land bassed on mister twisters by Mr Kemsley in the 80's off the rocks up north, I'm interested to hear from anyone who's poineered this kinda stuff, time's ripe for land-bassed lure fishing to become a bit more mainstream i reckon! Smile

Landman & brown dog: good stuff! keen to see how ya get on, have you had a go with softies around kk bay, going by your report the other day of them being right in close they sound like prime targets to have a go at that. I'm keen to join fenien for a crack at gurnard on little inchinkus once that damned red weed buggers off, I've found trevs quiet fond of little flat shads at times, had a sesion last winter on the gulf where every 2-3 casts brought in one of around 30cm, keen to try that around cake is. and under the light house.

Deacs: I've got 2 lures that are right little troopers: it'd be between a little sebile flat shad in blu althea or the little rapala x-rap that those snapper were caught on, i'll post a closeup pic of them later as they're getting pretty worn/bitten/gnarled looking after 10 months of active duty and look pretty cool with the teeth marks/scratches (actually i quietly fear a good fish would crunch the x-rap up and destroy it lol). Though really it's still early days, i'm still figuring out how a lure should swim/behave to get our fish to bite, pleanty more options out there in the world to try, lots more theories to test. it's a case of balancing testing new ideas and refining what's currently working, and satisfying the urge to just do what works and bend a rod lol! so much still to learn. But yeah at this stage softies are still more effective by a reasonable margin, understandable given how much more development has happened there over the years.

Fish-i: what have you played with and what's the results like, keen to hear anything from anyone giving this a go! Thumbs Up

loodafish: fun: definately! cheap...    depends really! there's a bit of an outlay to start with to have small collection, but so long as you don't lose the lures it certainly can be cheap. I've only just now started to downsize my trace/tackle to get more hits, previously i was fishing line/trace weights that meant i'd straiten trebble hooks rather than loose lures, it's only now after 12 months (not 100% these lures over that time though) i've got a good sense for the sink rates etc and can avoid hitting snags in the 1st place so am downsizing the trace etc, also i tend to cast a softie around when i 1st arrive at a new spot to sorta "feel out" the teritory and get to know where the snags are. I think if I fished them on 15lb trace 1st outing it woulda been expensive and i wouldn't have stuck with it at all haha!

Fishing addiction: Although it does work, i wouldn't go saying that this is a method equal to baits/softies/inchinkus etc at this stage, it's still more effort per hookup that's for sure, so not my 1st choice to put food on the plate, but alot of fun and a real challenge. though it's a type of fishing that's in it's infancy really, if a few people stick at it and keep thinking and refining what they're doing and explooring the world of lures that are out there it'll only get better.

Kandrew, nah not really, i'm not that big on boat fishing (nothing wrong with boats of course, they're just not my thing), but there's alot of development going on in australia at the moment with slow-trawling bibbed minows/crankbaits for snapper, particularly with downriggers, shouldn't be hard to google up a few forum posts/articals/vids, figure out what's working over there and give that a go over here i'm sure, I believe Milan from Big Angry Fish headed across and gave it a go, so that should appear on season 2 of the series. Get stuck in now and be ahead of the curve lol Tongue

actually i should say that the most valuable source of information for getting this stuff working has been from the australian bream market, bream are relatives of snapper and alot of the basic principles of getting bream to bite lures apply to our snapper. Also a golden rule from our own Craig Worthington with reference to snapper on flies "slow sinking=good, floating up=bad" that's a key for sure.


Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 9:22pm
Just studying your lures Micheal, what method are you using to secure your lure to your leader? I've been using genie clips, but not sure this is the best method, thinking of going to a Rapala knot, have noticed you are using a few different methods, what's been most successful for you? Also are you using a swivel from leader to mainline or just tying your Fluro leader straight to the Braid??

Cheers.


Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 10:13pm
I've lost a few fish with genie clips, probably my bad technique more than the clip though. Common sense tells me it is hard for a fish to shake a lure free when the rod is loaded..... ohhh well.

Michael PM me if you're keen on a night time session for KY ... I know Landman & Brown Dogs secret spot Big smile Friday, Saturday and Sunday night looking good. Maybe a softbait vs hardbait challenge? Maybe we could even see who could catch the best fish on the shonkiest lure Clown


Posted By: Keith C
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by Michael Jenkins Michael Jenkins wrote:

pleanty more options out there in the world to try, lots more theories to test. it's a case of balancing testing new ideas and refining what's currently working, and satisfying the urge to just do what works and bend a rod lol! 
Excellent Michael! It is this aspect that fishing offers that makes it a lifelong learning curve and insatiable challenge, irrespective of the fish size and your previous level of experience.
 
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Posted By: Michael Jenkins
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 12:46am
here's the pics of my 2 workhorses, i've had these 2 lures over 10 months now and they're both caught a few fish though it's kinda chicken and egg with how good they actually are i reckon, it's sorta like "do i fish them the most because they work best or do they work best because i fsh them the most?" haha hard to tell, anyways:

rapala x-rap extreeme action slashbait 6cm suspending in silver:

can see some of the teeth marks pretty clearly, there's something i find cool about a chewed lure...   can also see where a couple of cracks have formed, the makers didn't even intend this for salt water use, let alone species like our snapper which crush and chew food, so it's to be expected really, replaced the front trebble today with a size 6 vmc as that snapper above managed to snap off one of the points, between that and the fact it's not a through-wire lure I am wondering what will happen if something decent gets it's jaws around it, but i'm willing to cross that bridge when i come to it. can also see where i've added a split-shot to the front tow point, as above it's been designed with fresh water in mind, so it'll suspend (neither sink-nor float but hold at the same depth) when paused in fresh water, but because the density of salt water is a bit different it needs a smidgen more weight to suspend in salt water and as Craig W duely observed if it floats up the snapper that were stalking it sudenly loose interest, but if it stays level or sinks slowly they strike. Might also note a little rust around the tie off point, totally my fault, neglected to rinse it after an outing, need to remember to do that each time, just like with your rods and reels, i've taken to smearing a little bit of ocean angler "secret sause" on them as a rust protectant after use, works like any grease, except i know it doesn't put fish off. I got a rapala CD9 magnum sinking the other day from rod'n'reel in new market which is actually designed for saltwater and built tougher so keen to give that a go next outing, the smaller cd7 size of the same should be good also.

here's the other favourite: Sebile flat shad 66xhsk (66mm extra heavy sinking) in blue althea, for land bassed purposes a regular sinking model would perhaps be a bit better, gives ya more fluttler/swim time on the way down, and that's when most of the action seems to happen, they are out there/available in shops but most are the extra heavy variety for boat anglers, but hey this is great in areas with a bit of current going by.


here's a flat shad re-rigged with single hooks, the only place i know of that stocks single hooks of this size with the eyes in this orientation (called in-line eyes) is go-fish tackle in northcote, the added flashabou and maribou has it partly there because some of it is glow in the dark and/or uv reflective, but also because lures get designed to swim properly with the size and weight of hook they come with, for some lures (flat shads are less affected than some others) changing hooks can have a drastic effect on the lures action and presentation, so when changing hooks it's often important to make sue the replacement has a similar weight and water-drag as the hook you've just pulled off, so a single hook with fly-material added is aiming to have the same water drag as a trebble.



Browndog: yeah going from braid to fluro i tie FG knots, kinda fiddly and slow, but it's the best, great strength and superb casting, spend a bit of time infront of youtube following along and tieing the knot 4-5 times in a row one evening and you'll know it for life, there's a method which uses the reel on the rod with the line going threw the guides that i find works best for me, see if i can find the vid for ya fish i posted it a while back, **WARNING WARNING** don't have you drag up tight when you do this, it'll point load the rod and break it!!

 the advantage of doing this is if you get terminally snagged and bust off it's generally the knot at the other end that pops, so you get to keep the leader and can get back into it quickly, though with hard bodies it's generally just a trebble in the kelp, or if it is hooked up to rock the trebble will often straiten before anything breaks for me (20lb braid 30lb leader)

next best is a slim beauty knot done with 6 turns up and 6 turns down, casts reasonably and decent strength. I'm generally running 10-12 foot leaders to keep the braid out of harms way when a fish goes to ground, so swivels aren't an option really, and unless your using a lure that spins they're not needed, braid deals with the line twist that comes with string being taken on spin reels much better than mono.

connection to the lures i often use clips just so i can chop'n'change between different things, here's the 2 i use most, i don't use genies simply because i cant get 'em inside the cupped face of the small poppers i have:

the one on the left i got from yehaa and it's brought in by holiday tackle, works well for most things except softbait jigheads, because it's a double thickness of wire it kinda jams in the eye of a jighead and doesn't swing around, but otherwise good and versatile, the one on the right came from a place called Oscarma fishing internatinal in dominion road, i couldn't tell you the brand name as i can't read chinese charectors, but it's a fairly common design world wide, bit fidly to get inside the cupped face of a popper, but otherwise quiet versatile.

also i'll run a uni-knot with it loosened to give a loop, some don't like this method saying it causes friction when it tightens on hookup and kills the line (fluro is especially succeptable to heat) i've not had that problem myself, but then again i'm an anal ******* on that knot when i tie it, if every wrap isn't in the right place i cut it off and start again, it slides alot smoother when the knot is tied perfect. I'm not a fan of lefties loops and/or rapala knots i've never gotten great strength out of them, but all likely hood that's just me doing something wrong somewhere, thousands of fish are landed on that knot world-wide every year, so go with whatever you trust, but yeah leave space for the lure to swing about in one way or another.

Smudge: not sure what my plans for the weekend are at this stage, but once things sure up i'll let ya know, i like the idea and it'd be a whole heap of fun, so yeah will let ya know.

Kieth: so true, that's what i love about fishing, there's no 'pinacle' to it, and no one right or wrong way to go about it, you can keep explooring new fish species, methods and tackle endlessly. Nothing i've said above (or anything anyone's ever described as a fishing method) is nessecearily "the" way to do things, it's just what i've been doing and what's given me some success so far so i'm passing on what i've learnt in hopes that some of it's usefull to someone else. I always like hearing new ideas and theories and testing things, the great thing about how global the world is now is that i can jump on amazon and get a book from the NE coast of the states, a book from the gulf of mexico, a book from the US west coast, a book from the UK, a book from south africa, a book from the uk and a book from australia, watch videos from japan all on shore bassed lure fishing, and gain something different and useful from each and every source that i can apply to fishing lures from the shore here! it's great!  



Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 6:44am
Thanks for sharing the info Michael, I'm finding this a really challenging and interesting way to fish, lots of fun learning and trading knowledge.

Went up to Orpheus Point yesterday and fished for a while on an outgoing tide, managed a really nice Trev on a Salt Water X-Rap SXR08 (see below). Stoked as its my first fish on a Rapala since I started buying them last year. I was interested to see  that you where using the smaller Rapalas and having success on them, I've mainly been focusing on larger Max Raps (110mm), with no success, after reading your posts decided to drop down a few sizes, also slowed my retrieve rate down, with no twitching, so just a simple retrieve. No picture of the fish as the hook came free as I was lifting him up out of the water.Ouch But its a nice feeling to persist with something and have it finally show a result, or close to it!!

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Got this off Ebay, although I've seen the odd saltwater Rapala available on Trade Me.

Make sure you take Smudge up on his offer, his little spot goes off!


Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 7:06am
Good on you for getting the trev Brown Dog! Pity he slipped off.

Great thread MJ! My best take-away (as I'm really a born-again fly fisho now) is using Secret Sauce as a rust arrester. Great idea.

Those in-line hooks from Go-fish look great. I have a whole lot called "Trouting Singles" from Japan via Aus that you're welcome to if you want them. They are very rust prone.


Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 11:15am
That aussie fishing show "Adventure Bound" had en episode where thhey were trolling minnows on downriggers for snapper, using light spinning gear. Looked like a lot of fun.


Posted By: Michael Jenkins
Date Posted: 31 May 2013 at 7:08pm
That's great Paul! hopefully it's the 1st of many more to come.

Yeah having fish drop off is all too comon with hardbodies, those trebbles don't always get a good hold, gotta keep 'em razor sharp to convert as many bites into hookups aswell, I'd learnt to fight fish as gently as possible and have a net handy always early on aswell

out of interest, does that x-rap float, suspend or sink?? what kinda depth does it run at and what depth were you fishing? (basicly did it get hit close to the bottom, mid-water or up high?)


Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 31 May 2013 at 8:56pm
Those X-Raps are a suspending bait Michael, the 8cm in the picture has a running depth of 3-5ft, although I think 5ft would be absolute max.Dont know if you have ever fished Orpheus but it gets pretty shallow at low tide, when I was fishing there I'm picking the water would have been between 8 - 10 feet deep, so I'm about midway in the column.

Is that a split shot on the belly of that X-Rap Shad? Or are you placing the extra weight on the trace near the tow point?? Bought a couple of those today, silver and yellow perch, guna give em a try out this weekend, time permitting. Check out Marine Deals, they have XRS6 and CD7's for $14.99 each.


Posted By: fozzie
Date Posted: 31 May 2013 at 9:06pm
Good stuff Mike, great to catch up at the boat show last week, your enthusiasm and dedication would put a lot of us boat owners to shame, well done on showing us what happens when you stick to your "fish your feet"plan.


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Posted By: Michael Jenkins
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2013 at 3:55pm
cool thanks for sharing that info brown dog, it came in handy yesterday, we had a solid trev hanging around in the berly and i was determined to get it on a lure, unlike snapper it was happy to cruise around in mid water and approach and swipe the lures there, also it was more interested by bigger/faster movements rather than the subtle ones that interest snapper. that's what i love about sight fishing you can learn so much if your watching what's happening. Fustratingly it was racing up to the lures (rapala cd5, rapala xrap, sebile flat shad) and just kinda kissing/nudging them and then turning away, seemed like it was testing them and the deciding they weren't food so not trying to eat them. should have smothered one in secret sauce to see if it was a taste issue or texture issue (hard plastic feels different to it's normal food obviously) but didn't think of that at the time, eventually got it to take a pink-shine gulp jigging grub only to have the hook pull strait away, doh!

yeah the split shot is on the belly, where i typed "tow point" i meant hook attachment point hehe.

Thanks Fozzie, good to see you there and chat too. one disadvantage land bassed anglers have vs boaties is if the fishing is slow in the spot we've chosen we can't just pull the anchor/drouge and whizz off elcewhere quickly/easily, that forces us to sit it out threw slow fishing untill things do start to happen, and/or keep trying different things/approaches. if your observant to what's going on it teaches you alot.

got a wee rapala cd5 from Rod'n'Reel in New Market the other week, it went really well, although there was only small snapper around whilst the sun was up, what was around got stuck into it that's for sure, probably the best/more consistant bites/hookups i've had on a lure so far.





Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2013 at 8:54pm
Hey fellas just had a small TAS moment & got one of the Sebiles articulated magic swimmer sinking to 6-9' lures. What do you guys think or anyone used them before? Cheers Pete

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Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2013 at 9:16am
I have a couple and they have a beautiful action in the water, my theory is that they will catch fish, but I'm yet too prove that theory.


Posted By: Fenien
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2013 at 9:55am
Had a couple of follows by kingis this season with mine but no takers yet.They have worked well overseas for me with a few coral trout,red bass & small GTs finding them hard to resist.As Brown Dog says they have a great swimming action.


Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2013 at 1:59pm
Me and the Brown Dog went up on the Manukau yesterday, Salt Water Xrap worked again........





Posted By: Michael Jenkins
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2013 at 6:07pm
nice one! that was a cool video paul, what was it filmed/edited with?

was in coromandel over the weekend, other than lots of poppering/stickbaiting for kings that never showed up on the final day didn't use alot of hard-boddies, i did however do a bit of shore-jigging. Buggered if i know where this photo would actually belong, so i'll just put it here haha!



Posted By: gromph
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2013 at 11:24pm
Shore jigging.....friggin eck MJ - must be a big drop off aye


Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2013 at 8:00am
Originally posted by Michael Jenkins Michael Jenkins wrote:

nice one! that was a cool video paul, what was it filmed/edited with?



Filmed on a Gopro Hero3, edited on Adobe Premiere. Footage is pretty much "raw" off the camera with no post processing or colour correction.


Posted By: matto
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2013 at 8:38am
Great Thread , great to see you luro's doing it. Good work on the Gopro Brown dog, I look forward to seeing moreThumbs Up

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Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2013 at 10:49am
What rods and reels being used a 4000-5000 size?

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Posted By: loodafish
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2013 at 2:09pm
This is a primo thread, love reading what you guys are getting up to i am yet to try this myself but i will get round to it!! Keep up the good work


Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2013 at 3:00pm
I'm doing a mythbusters trip this weekend, hopefully I'll have something to report back here on sunday night.


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Posted By: Kevin.S
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2013 at 7:54pm
Enjoyed reading this thread.  What sort of rods & reels are you guys using for this type of fishing?


Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2013 at 10:10pm
Those 160 long hardies are great for shore jigging. Gromph, you cast them. Checkout shore jigging on youtube


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Posted By: pellmell
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2013 at 8:21am
great pics ... just gave me inspiration to get out there ... damn the rain ..lol


Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2013 at 8:33am
Originally posted by Kevin.S Kevin.S wrote:

Enjoyed reading this thread.  What sort of rods & reels are you guys using for this type of fishing?


Early days for me, and still coming to grips with the whole thing but I'm using a couple of rods and reels at the moment....

Rods
1/ Shimano Backbone Elite, 8ft, 6 - 8kg

2/ Berkley Dropshot, 7ft, 3 - 6kg

Reels (both fixed spool)
1/ Okuma Epix EB30

2/ Daiwa Legalis 2500




Posted By: Kevin.S
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2013 at 8:47am
Thanks Brown Dog, I was wondering what people were using.  I have a 6-8kg Catana which is just over 7' long that I have tried some lures with.  Mainly because I happened to already have it, but it seems to be in about the same range as you are using as well.  I have a few odd lures I have picked up around the place, but I think I must try and get some of the Sebille ones.  I've tried mostly on the boat, without much success, and I think I should try land based. 


Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2013 at 8:08am
Hey guys went out yesterday and tired my new setup okuma xfactor 6-8kg and penn 4500ssv spooled with 20lb powerpro and 20lb fluro leader.tried a small rapala popper for quite sometime with no luck also some Zmans and some gulp on 1/4 ounce jig head i had a good knock on a really brown coloured gulp jigging grub missed the hookup part to not expecting it nd boredom...changed over to a Sebile flat shad and omfg they went nut 4 fish on 4 casts was shocked but those trebles are dangerous and blood hard to get out may change to a couple small livebait hooks.im definitely loving the sebiles so seriously contemmplating on changing over to hardbodys altogethor for local fishing

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Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2013 at 8:41am
Awesome Rockhopper, what you catchin mate?


Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2013 at 9:31am
Snapper and kahawai berley definitely helped

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Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2013 at 8:00am
Fished the Manukau again yesterday, heaps of workups around low tide, lost 3 fish and 3 lures, Sebile Flat Shad, Sebile Stick Shad,and a Rapala Max Rap...... Ouch$$$$SickCensored


Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2013 at 4:21pm
Originally posted by Brown Dog Brown Dog wrote:

Fished the Manukau again yesterday, heaps of workups around low tide, lost 3 fish and 3 lures, Sebile Flat Shad, Sebile Stick Shad,and a Rapala Max Rap...... Ouch$$$$SickCensored
Perhaps up your leader im using 20lb fluro may go to 30lb shortly my favourite lure is the sebile at the moment and top catch are doing them for 30 percent of so pretty good saving

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Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2013 at 5:32pm
Sorry Rockhopp, should've clarified, I lost the fish due to them spitting the hook, rather than busting me off, all my lures where lost over foul ground. That stick shad was working really nicely, and was casting a mile, lost it on the very last cast of the day, which made it all the more painful!


Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2013 at 6:12pm
Yeah we landed around 14-15 kahawai I got 4 on 4 casts with the sebile I set the hooks pretty hard and run a pretty heavy drag. We had some kingys around to chasing kawai but they were nto remotely interested in the shads. The Kahawai were not interested in poppers either have a very small x rap and that didnt interest them either the brown sebile shad was the go but the me mate got one on a $4 warehouse slug but the sebiles were the go.
 
Heres my thought so far...this is confusing in terms of hardbody etc sinking floating this all makes no sense to me etc
 
Been lucky so far got softbait sorted there easy caught plenty of fish on them but what I was thinking of buying some bream lures from aussie as they look close to our nz snapper and there designed for it ????? what you reckon also a few piper hardbodys for kingys would be good


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Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2013 at 6:15pm
Also for walking the rocks has anyone got a belt bag or similar for story hardbody lures and maybe some pliers? contemplating in removing trebles and replacing with livebait hooks 1/0s thoe trebles are really hard to remove from kahawais mouth and super sharb

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Posted By: Kevin.S
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2013 at 6:37pm
I've just bought some of these. http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/shop/fishing/tackle-bags/tackle-bags-belts/old-harbour-outfitters
I couldn't resist at that price. They arrived today and were much more robust that I expected for the price. Haven't tried them out yet, but apart from looking a bit of a prat they seem like they will be useful. The round pod is open at the bottom so I'm thinking it will be good to hold the rod if you can't put it down while dealing with a fish.


Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2013 at 9:48pm
hey kevin, what's the diameter of the tubes?


Posted By: Kevin.S
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2013 at 10:38pm
The clear plastic tubes in the main pack are 40mm diameter and 230mm long.  These easily fit all my smaller lures in, and at a push you could squeeze a Halco Rooster in one -but I wasn't thinking about poppers and stick baits.


Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2013 at 5:25pm
Out of interest is anyone keen on a lure fish midday/arvo then a night burley bait seession in whangaparoa Rockz happy to take someone to one of my better spots

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Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2013 at 7:31pm
what day paul? 


Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2013 at 8:10pm
have sunday mondays off so any of those even a saturday night be ok plenty of kahawai round out of interest i anyone livebaiting at the moment is it worth a try for a king at the moment?

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Posted By: cheechy
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2013 at 7:49am
did u have a go up the river bro? any luck??


Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 6:18pm
shot out today for a bit of a test with the lures i got in aussie.
first spot quiet so moved to the northern side of whangaparaoa, water was super clear so that gave me a good look at how they move - turns out i have sinking, suspending and floating bibbed lures so was good to see the difference.
no fish about but did get pack attacked by 3 squid which was quite a surprise!
managed to hook a few but couldn't quite get them to shore.

anyone using a genie clip? some of my split rings are pretty tiny so i think i need some small pliers.
what does everyone else use?


Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2013 at 3:02pm
got back out today with some lures, windy but coming from behind me so helped get the little ones out far enough. had some burley running which soon brought in the kahawai, they immediately took a fancy to this one:



landed 4 of these so had a play with some other lures but no snapper action, however i did manage a nice pannie on a pillie so dinner is sorted!


Posted By: Brown Dog
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2013 at 3:29pm
That a Rapala RockZ


Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2013 at 3:36pm
just a cheapie i got from aussie, $5 from memory

http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/fishing/lures/hard-body-lures.aspx?id=31001&brand=Kato" rel="nofollow - http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/fishing/lures/hard-body-lures.aspx?id=31001&brand=Kato


Posted By: Kevin.S
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2013 at 3:40pm
Nice work rockz, I tried yesterday but quickly gave up in the wind.  I was using a small waxwing that had enough weight to be able to cast but with the wind coming straight at me it was soon obvious that if I didn't give up I was going to have a huge birds nest with my braid being blown all over.  And I was getting seasick standing on the jetty.  Poor choice of location given the wind direction, lesson learned. 


Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2013 at 3:56pm
yeah it definitely helps to be able to fish both side of the peninsular depending on wind.


Posted By: YeeHaa
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2013 at 4:33pm

I knew rapalas are deadly to brownies, but my question was, "Do they work for kahawais in the gulf."


So, I picked a nice day and went out with them

On the third cast, I got the first one.


Two minutes later, got another one.


Then, every two or three casts, I hooked up kahawais.
CD9s were killers for them.



finally, they got bored of CD9s, so I grabbed a jig, then I cast to where I couldn't with rapalas,
had fun time again.
I don't remember how many fish I landed,
just so many!




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Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2013 at 1:55pm
hey yehaa hook us up lol


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Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2014 at 4:26pm
popped out today for a wee play, long story here: 

http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/anyone-get-out-today_topic30565_page429.html

any ways what do you guys think about swapping out these thin trebles for some live bait or small in line hooks?

as i diving lure i would think the trebles wouldn't be as important as with a surface lure?
or am i way off in thinking this?

any advice much appreciated, cheers.




Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 3:52pm
been a while since i was last here!
popped out after the footy down to the wade to test out some new stickbaits that arrived this week.
seem to have a good action and cast very well, they even catch fish although not the size i was after...LOL



for those that are interested lure is 120mm and 28g sinking.


Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 9:04pm
Greedy fish!


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Posted By: HopeDMorin
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 8:26pm
Nice.. I am not much aware about land based lure caught fish.



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