Stick Bait Hook Set ups
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Topic: Stick Bait Hook Set ups
Posted By: Cheeko
Subject: Stick Bait Hook Set ups
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 10:01am
| I have just recently purchased a stick bait set up (thanks Kane at Decoro) and had my first play out of Tairua on Saturday. Half a dozen casts in had three good size kings chasing my stick bait and then five minutes later had a 20kg fish monster my stick bait. Unfortunately the hooks didnt set. I was running a treble at the back and a single at the front. I dont really like trebles due to the damage they do to fish and also potential dangers with hands etc. I would much prefer to run two singles so just wondering how best I should set them up and what hooks, rings, assist cord etc to use. Off to the 3 Kings next week so any advice would be much appreciated. Think I could get addicted to this!! |
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Posted By: Pico
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 10:25am
| I've been rigging mine with 2 on the belly and one at the back. Haven't landed anything decent (or even legal ) yet, but seem to swim ok. http://nomadtackle.com/lurerigging.htm" rel="nofollow - http://nomadtackle.com/lurerigging.htm |
Posted By: climbaboy
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 11:37am
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I've just started as well and have been told to leave the hook setups alone.... the baits have been designed toswim with what the manufacturer puts on then. I have noticed that there are a few brands (black magic etc) that do singles. ------------- "she says..i need different shoes for different outfits...I'm appling said rule to fishing apparatus.... |
Posted By: TOSF
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 2:36pm
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Every lure is different, for a lot of reasons a single hooks are better but you really need to "tune" your lure first to see how it swims, start off with minimal say two singles if it swims OK stick with that if not try a trebble on the back or belly till it works, two singles on the belly is great we use this a lot for yellow fin tuna. Some lures need the grip of trebbles to make them swim others do not. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/TonyOrtonSportFishingOffshoreAdventures www.offshoreadventures.net http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Cheeko
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 10:12am
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thanks fullas, will buy a few bits and pieces and have a play. cheers |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 12:23pm
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If you are worried about damage to fish run a single hook on the tail, the tail hook does 80% of the damage when a fished is hooked on the belly hook. What lures are you casting Cheeko? This will help with recommending hook choice... I'm yet to come to a decision on the whole single v treble debate, both can kill fish and damage both fish and angler... Guess that is what happens when your casting sharp needle points around. I have yet to find a consensus amongst the charter guides around the world too... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Cheeko
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 3:00pm
Cheers, I bought one of the Shimano Ocea's and also have a Starwalker, both in the 180-185mm category. I won't be forking out $200 large on a carpenter
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ReelAppealLures wrote:Posted By: ELEVAR
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 7:57pm
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i find the oceas a mere, but the starwalkers swim mean with 3/0 owners the heavy ones zac
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Posted By: ELEVAR
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 7:57pm
| trebles sorry |
Posted By: Cheeko
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 8:48pm
sweet, didnt actually swim the starwalker last weekend so will give it a dabble next week!
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Posted By: fishntips
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2013 at 8:29am
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Im yet to see a stick bait that swims all that effectively with singles or a bakers rig. I've swum a heap of stickbaits and even the ones that claim to swim singles well dont. unfortunately I'm convinced trebles are a necessary evil. They do so much to swim the bait well. They're just frigggen deadly and dangerous. Expect damage to ballistic rats. If you want more of a chance to catch kingies use trebles. If you are a full time sports fisherman who is constantly fishing mad mad frenzied kingies then use singles. but in those situations almost anything can work. Id be keen to opt on to them when that's happening. get your self a few different sized owner st66 and owner splits and play around with them until you have the right balance for each lure. Good stick baits are highly sensitive to the right rigging. It's all about the right swim action in order to catch them in the first place. |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 01 May 2013 at 11:18am
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The big problem for me with trebles is that they're not legal for club pins & points as the NSSC follows IGFA rules, so if I want to try and catch anything on a lure then I need to run singles. ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: jaypeegee
Date Posted: 01 May 2013 at 11:35am
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lack of friction and lost drag when using singles in place of trebles? If you add a small bib like attachement to the split ring to mitigate the lost friction? As long as it didnt impact the hook presentation that might get you best of both worlds. ------------- "You don't have to be smart to laugh at a fart, but you have to be stupid not to." |
Posted By: Cheeko
Date Posted: 01 May 2013 at 12:47pm
| Some good ideas and thoughts here guys. Apprciate the input as I am a rooky at this stick baiting game! |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 02 May 2013 at 6:50am
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I messed around with the oceas and starwalkers ages ago.................They suggest 3/0 owners on the oceas but i found they swam better with 7/0 in line shoguns and 9mm owner split rings......I tried the starwalker with both 3/0 and 4/0 owner trebles(as suggested)....I found the 4/0 were too heavy for the surface lure and the lure took to long to come back to the surface after the sweep.....I even found the 3/0 did to some degree too......I found the 7/0 shogun in line and 9mm splits got the best action and return to surface ready for the next sweep.....I also found short stabs produced a walk the dog action too......take some trebs/8 or 9mm splits and some inline 7/0 (they are a good size for those lures/tried the 8/0 but prefer the 7/0)..split ring pliers......you can test for yourself and then tell us what you think...I like the oceas coz they have rattles...Good luck. Think these were 8/0 on here...so i scaled it down to 7/0......To me the lures were more lively than with trebles......Dont go too heavy on the leader too as that can effect the action a bit......I have other lures like sams RAL that are made just for in line straights but i have a few other lures that fish an owner treble on the belly for stability and a inline single on the back......Its a good idea to ask the supplier but dont be afraid to experiment.Its all good fun.   ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: seawolf
Date Posted: 04 May 2013 at 8:50pm
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