Accurate vs Jigging Master
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Topic: Accurate vs Jigging Master
Posted By: TCG
Subject: Accurate vs Jigging Master
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 3:15pm
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Have a light jig stick for 100-200g jigs. Have a tyrnos 10 at the moment but looking to upgrade. Was initially thinking about a JM PE3 and now looking at a size 400 accurate. Anybody have experience with both or either that can give some pros and cons and comparisons. Cheers
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Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 3:31pm
i have the bx400xn on a powerspell 100g. mint reel. feels like a good balance. havn't jigged with a pe3 but have with a pe5. pe5 speed wise is alright but think the pe3 is a bit slower if getting the accurate, get the longer arm and power handle as it makes a difference small jigs dont really tire you out so much so the faster speed of the bx400xn would be my pick
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 10:29pm
JM PE reels need no further introduction. they are one of the most popular overhead jig reels in the world. PE 3 reel is 4.5:1 and a quite large spool diameter so line retrieve rate is pretty decent for this line class. It come with factory standard power handle and t bar. No need to buy aftermarket add ons.
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Posted By: Jig Master
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 12:09pm
Go Accurate all day!
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Posted By: climbaboy
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 8:06pm
I've got accurate on jm saber so sweet! Upgrading handle and sunset drag next service ;)
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Posted By: tas-tackle
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 8:46pm
yup... Accurate...
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Posted By: daveo
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 9:42pm
Accurate's do the job ok but if you want the best get a jm, hell if you want a accurate I got a bx400xn that's only been used twice I'd happily sell, hate the 6.1 ratio
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Posted By: blackboat
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 1:12pm
Daveo flick a pm on that accurate what you want for it when you get chance mate it be ok for what im setting up.
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Posted By: captain.Gav.
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 10:07pm
JM PE3 
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Posted By: blackboat
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 8:07am
Posted By: TCG
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 8:35am
Thanks for all the replies guys, at this stage the JM is winning I think
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Posted By: pukek
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 1:18pm
Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 1:25pm
the key difference is that the pe3 is easier to jig all day but wont catch as many fish as the accurates faster retreive. i prefer accurate in the smaller size you wont go wrong with either. both are extremely popular for a reason , and i would be happy to use either. i like the jm more in the bigger sizes best to see someone like boulder who has both, then you can see what they feel like and which way you would prefer to go
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Posted By: daveo
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 1:46pm
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Sorry mate but gotta call BS on that^
the whole ratio thing is just crap.... you really think a fish is going to not hit a jig because that stroke had 10cm less lift on it?
alot of the time i get hits when i slow down or even stop... and jigging the 6.1 ratio plenty of times Ive caught more on the JM than people on the 6.1 accurate, and vica versa, hell sometimes people on one side of the boat do alot better than the other, just the way it goes sometimes
the JM's are much smoother can take alot more drag and dont bind under semi heavy loads.
Blackboat (or anyone) PM me a offer on it, spooled with daiwa 62lb boat braid upgraded black handle. only a couple weeks old
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Posted By: Jig Master
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 2:24pm
daveo wrote:
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Sorry mate but gotta call BS on that^
the whole ratio thing is just crap.... you really think a fish is going to not hit a jig because that stroke had 10cm less lift on it?
alot of the time i get hits when i slow down or even stop... and jigging the 6.1 ratio plenty of times Ive caught more on the JM than people on the 6.1 accurate, and vica versa, hell sometimes people on one side of the boat do alot better than the other, just the way it goes sometimes
the JM's are much smoother can take alot more drag and dont bind under semi heavy loads.
Blackboat (or anyone) PM me a offer on it, spooled with daiwa 62lb boat braid upgraded black handle. only a couple weeks old |
the JM's are much smoother can take alot more drag DISAGREE and dont bind under semi heavy loads Accurates don't either. Why else would have JM copied the Accurate drag system.
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Posted By: Millkman
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 4:04pm
Oh boy, here we go!...
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Posted By: Millkman
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 4:06pm
Pukek, what problems are there with the twinspins?
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Posted By: REIVER
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 4:27pm
Jig Master wrote:
daveo wrote:
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Sorry mate but gotta call BS on that^
the whole ratio thing is just crap.... you really think a fish is going to not hit a jig because that stroke had 10cm less lift on it?
alot of the time i get hits when i slow down or even stop... and jigging the 6.1 ratio plenty of times Ive caught more on the JM than people on the 6.1 accurate, and vica versa, hell sometimes people on one side of the boat do alot better than the other, just the way it goes sometimes
the JM's are much smoother can take alot more drag and dont bind under semi heavy loads.
Blackboat (or anyone) PM me a offer on it, spooled with daiwa 62lb boat braid upgraded black handle. only a couple weeks old |
the JM's are much smoother can take alot more drag DISAGREE and dont bind under semi heavy loads Accurates don't either. Why else would have JM copied the Accurate drag system.
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Posted By: Jig Master
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 5:15pm
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I am also interested in the Twin spin issues??
Once again not trying to get up anyone, just some statements are not quiet true and need to be corrected.
Both brands have been a big part of the development of the jigging scene we know today and are the two to look at.
For me it is not about how the reel feels and looks straight out of the box. Jigging is one of the hardest forms of fishing on the reels. It is about how is it going in the 3-4 year plus period that really shows the tools to the toy's. 
Off for the weekend now let's see what this looks like on monday 
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 5:29pm
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To put things in a bit of perspective.
Initially Japanesse anglers where using modified spinfishers for jigging, these caught on and mods became more common.
Jigging master ( Pony) initially used Accurate reels and also modified them to suit the specific application for jigging.
Jigging master (Pony) developed the Oceanus 30 reel in associatoin with Progear specifically made for jigging.
Jigging master developed the JM reels using the knowledge gained form using the accurates and Oceanus reels and incorporated the best of these, to produce the JM reels.
Accurate have made advancements since, utilizing some of the technologies now common place in jigging specific reels.
Holden vs Ford
Yamaha vs Suzuki
whopping big dude Vs small wirey fit guy......
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Posted By: dirtyharry
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 5:39pm
Retreive ratio is not the be all and end all, look at how many centirmeters of line per crank is retrieved as well. Both the JM and Accurates are bloody good reels there's no denying but look at the Avets - sweet little reels or for a home grown PE3 option the Ducro10. yeah I'm biased toward the Ducro since I have one but the are great little reels for up to PE3, carbon drags, long throw arm and EVA knob as standard.
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Posted By: Jig Master
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 8:33am
Titahi wrote:
To put things in a bit of perspective.
Initially Japanesse anglers where using modified spinfishers for jigging, these caught on and mods became more common.
Jigging master ( Pony) initially used Accurate reels and also modified them to suit the specific application for jigging.
Jigging master (Pony) developed the Oceanus 30 reel in associatoin with Progear specifically made for jigging.
Jigging master developed the JM reels using the knowledge gained form using the accurates and Oceanus reels and incorporated the best of these, to produce the JM reels.
Accurate have made advancements since, utilizing some of the technologies now common place in jigging specific reels.
Holden vs Ford
Yamaha vs Suzuki
whopping big dude Vs small wirey fit guy......
In a pissing match it always ends with dribble!!! |
Good morning jiggers,
GO THE FORDS !!!!!!!!
GO YAMAHA!!!!!!
GO THE FIT WIREY GUY!!!!!!!!  
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Posted By: JIMMY NAIL
Date Posted: 05 May 2013 at 9:53pm
Get ya self a new generation studio ocean mark BLUE HEAVEN L120. Hands down the best on the market!!!!!!!!! And the most expensive, but you get what you pay for.
They have a new Japanese made L50 hi which is simply beautiful!!!
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 06 May 2013 at 1:37pm
JIMMY NAIL wrote:
Get ya self a new generation studio ocean mark BLUE HEAVEN L120. Hands down the best on the market!!!!!!!!! And the most expensive, but you get what you pay for.
They have a new Japanese made L50 hi which is simply beautiful!!! |
I thought this was a JM vs Accurate debate
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Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 06 May 2013 at 2:25pm
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The one thing that this proves is that forums mean nothing..opinions change,I guess the topic is on repeat over and over because new people enter the market and make "new" discoveries.
FWIW I started out with an Accurate Slammer at a time when Accurates were not flavour of the month,used it succesfully,loved it..at the same time had an Ocea that was bullet proof..bought a JM for a lighter rod set up when they first came out.
They all worked and all were pretty reliable.The only one I did not have any issues with was the Ocea.
Came to my sense's,sold the oveheads and bought a Stella instead! 
EDIT:Sorry I just remembered, the OJ had an anti reverse go,so its only Stella that has not had a trip to the doctor.
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Posted By: TCG
Date Posted: 06 May 2013 at 2:26pm
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Hmmm not sure I like the look of the studio marks, plus I heard they don't do so well with keeping water out, especially if it makes it to the cork drag
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Posted By: JIMMY NAIL
Date Posted: 06 May 2013 at 3:52pm
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The new ones are mint TCG. plus you can change the drag to carbon if preferred. very very nice reels! but as kaveman said this is about JM and Acctes
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 06 May 2013 at 3:53pm
Jimmy, John Schollum said congrats on your marlin BTW
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Posted By: JIMMY NAIL
Date Posted: 06 May 2013 at 3:55pm
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Cheers mate, Say hi to John. and let him know the boat is still going well. touch wood! I like your new web site! some good snaps on ya FB page!
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Posted By: ELEVAR
Date Posted: 06 May 2013 at 5:26pm
from a machinists point of view the machining and materials on the accurates is hands down beter than the jm from the parts I have compared! therefore I brought a accurate, I do love the look of the jm but I don't like the sound jms make tbh,
zac
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Posted By: TCG
Date Posted: 06 May 2013 at 5:50pm
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Putting uni on hold in Dunedin to go to the boatshow coming up so hopefully I can have a play with some of them there
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Posted By: ELEVAR
Date Posted: 06 May 2013 at 6:49pm
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you may even get to fight a big computer fish with a accurate! the boat show in aulks?
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Posted By: TCG
Date Posted: 06 May 2013 at 7:05pm
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Yeah thats the one, saw that setup a few years back and it looks pretty cool, might see if they'll me have a go
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Posted By: Tipper
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 1:51pm
I got a JM because I was told it impresses the chicks with its shiny finish - haven't pulled yet, as ll my jigging trips are full of nasty looking blokes  Funny how macho dudes have to have rod and reel combos that colour match?
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Posted By: JignJim
Date Posted: 12 May 2013 at 8:56am
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They are both great reels if you get either you wont be disapointed. For me personly its accurate because of the service i get from my local stockist Decoro they are a bunch good ******* and know these reels inside and out. If you are goin to the boat show coming up i suggest you go to the decoro booth have a look at there custom reels and have a chin wag with Kane he really knows his stuff and he will give you his honest opinion.
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Posted By: loodafish
Date Posted: 12 May 2013 at 12:09pm
Couldnt agree more jignjim, you cant help but buy an accurate after talking to someone as passionate about them as Kane from Decoro and there service is bar none!! As far as add ons and bolt ons go i like the fact that i can take a factory reel and make it my own whats another $100ish in the bigger scheme of things
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 12 May 2013 at 8:01pm
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jigging master- only because i have 3 of them and love em , the jm crew have been comeing here for years testing them on our kings infact it was there early videos that got me interested in jigging , they are built specifically for jigging. couple of mates have accurates and they havent let them down but the modals they have are quite wide though which in my mind they arent dedicated jigging reels , maybe they have narrow versions just havent seen any yet as most dudes i know are rocking jm's hard. hasnt allways been plain sailing have had a few things stuff out on mine and mates in the few years that we have had them but parts are easy to get and simple to replace if you are a fair dinkum practically minded fixit kinda kiwi guy.
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Posted By: captain.Gav.
Date Posted: 12 May 2013 at 8:21pm
JiggingMaster does the hard yards every weekend on our big south island Kings 
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Posted By: Starnsy
Date Posted: 12 May 2013 at 9:01pm
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The Angler - The Accurate narrow spools are seriously narrow... Just putting it out there
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 12 May 2013 at 9:45pm
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i will have to check em out , no one sells accurate in n.p so only know a couple of guys with them . are they sold in h & f elsewhere in N.Z ?
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Posted By: JignJim
Date Posted: 12 May 2013 at 10:01pm
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Decoro is your best they will tell who is the closest stockist and give you all the info you want on them
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 12 May 2013 at 10:13pm
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yep for sure but its a hard sell if you cant hold them in your hot little hands though. i see torpedo 7 sell them now that will probably get accurates into more kiwi hands they must be the biggest online retailer of fishing gear in nz now . really surprised h& f hasnt launched its own super site - they must be takeing a flogging from internet sales.
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 12:59pm
JignJim wrote:
They are both great reels if you get either you wont be disapointed. For me personly its accurate because of the service i get from my local stockist Decoro they are a bunch good ******* and know these reels inside and out. If you are goin to the boat show coming up i suggest you go to the decoro booth have a look at there custom reels and have a chin wag with Kane he really knows his stuff and he will give you his honest opinion. |
Yeah Kane from Decoro are doing a great job supporting Accurate reels and they have a great product.
We are great guys too and support JM reels right from day one! Our repairs are often overnight using genuine JM parts. Hell, we even flog parts off our personal reels if we have to. So if you have a NZ purchased JM reel and need a service or parts, drop us a line. That way you get Personal JM servicing the way it is meant to be from Choppy.
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Posted By: loodafish
Date Posted: 14 May 2013 at 11:36am
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Yeah Torpedo7 seem to have anything and everything you could ever want eh but like you say the angler i find it hard to purchase things off the internet i prefer to see and feel a product before i buy :)
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Posted By: McKoy
Date Posted: 15 May 2013 at 12:03am
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After owning a JM and having the bearings fail multiple times even after cleaning, having to replace "genuine" JM bearings for 30-40 bucks a pop (go to any bearing shop like Mana seals and bearings for 5 dollar replacements, which are generally better quality) I have switched to accurates. They are of far superior build quality and engineering. After making the switch, I would not touch a JM reel with a 20ft barge pole.
The only downside/change has been the higher ratio of the Accurates making it slightly more work to wind with the larger BX500/600 etc. A friend recently used one of my accurates and when comparing it to his JM, described it as "a real Mans jigging reel"
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Posted By: daveo
Date Posted: 15 May 2013 at 8:09am
treat your accurate the same as you treated the JM and see what happens mckoy 
And P.s cleaning your reel once in its life doesnt count as cleaning 
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Posted By: chopsticks
Date Posted: 15 May 2013 at 7:29pm
McKoy wrote:
After owning a JM and having the bearings fail multiple times even after cleaning, having to replace "genuine" JM bearings for 30-40 bucks a pop (go to any bearing shop like Mana seals and bearings for 5 dollar replacements, which are generally better quality) ... |
Well, I don't know where you're buying your JM bearings from but $30-40 sounds too much. I have never seen a JM reel have the bearings, "fail multiple times" as you put it. If you don't look after your reel then expect to deal with the consequences. Incidentally, if you're putting $5 dollar bearings in a JM reel then almost certainly they are not stainless steel or of a very high quality.
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Posted By: McKoy
Date Posted: 16 May 2013 at 12:09am
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Oh the irony - Chris Wong charges huge amounts for generic JM bearings and Daveo was the one who suggested to me alternate bearings.
But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.
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Posted By: daveo
Date Posted: 16 May 2013 at 7:51am
Posted By: chopsticks
Date Posted: 16 May 2013 at 9:19am
McKoy wrote:
...Chris Wong charges huge amounts for generic JM bearings..
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What? The price of JM bearings is very reasonable. Tried buying any Shimano bearings lately? Anyway, if you're happy with your choice of jigging reel then that's great. No need to unfairly denigrate another person.
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 16 May 2013 at 7:14pm
chopsticks wrote:
McKoy wrote:
...Chris Wong charges huge amounts for generic JM bearings..
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What? The price of JM bearings is very reasonable. Tried buying any Shimano bearings lately? Anyway, if you're happy with your choice of jigging reel then that's great. No need to unfairly denigrate another person.
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I don't recall selling McKoy any bearings and we don't have them at those prices either. Perhaps a phone call might have been in order if you were having multiple issues. We are only a local call away
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 16 May 2013 at 7:47pm
can chicks and wimps use accurates too? .dunno if im man enough to use one now . 
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Posted By: dirty hooker
Date Posted: 16 May 2013 at 11:15pm
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i think they can angler ive seen cappatarn using a pretty pink one
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Posted By: Jig Master
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 11:08am
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Any BX Accurate can be swapped from 6.1:1 to 4.1:1 just by swapping out the main and pinion gear. It costs $50 and you keep the spare gear set.
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