diawa saltigas/ fin-nors.
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Topic: diawa saltigas/ fin-nors.
Posted By: lipripper
Subject: diawa saltigas/ fin-nors.
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2003 at 7:18pm
| Ive been checking out these reels, diawa saltiga 4500. fin nor ahab 20 & shimano stella. all of which cost a sh*t load for egg beaters, I was wondering if any one out there has any experience with any of these |
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Posted By: Barrie
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2003 at 8:00pm
| Mike...why get a fixed spool real?? serious question |
Posted By: JBoffshore
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2003 at 9:29pm
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i have used a fin-nor game reel and its awesome.havent used one of their spinning reels but would imagine the quality to be great. how much are they? b.m |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2003 at 12:04am
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Hi Mike Just a Thought did you ever consider at a Penn SpinFisher? these are the only eggbeater that are used in Aus on Charter Boats to land Marlin (sm blacks and sails) .........even Graham Sinclair managed to stop a stripie in NZ about 100kgs on one it was T/R ....... a all ready proven track record is hard to beat and parts will always be available not superseded... i have a old 850ss but the parts of the new 8500ss still fit the old one.. Cheers Lethal |
Posted By: Barrie
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2003 at 5:54am
| I have the 8500ss and its now the only fixed spool I own but I rearly use it. You can cast free spool reals easily with a bit of practice and they will cast a lot further |
Posted By: lipripper
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2003 at 12:35pm
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Cheers for your input. I have a 8500 spin fisher but it dose not see much action, I do most of my casting with a free spool. The 8500 worked well when I have used it. But I was wondering what you got for a extra $750 (maybe just a emptyer wallet) Cheers Mike |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2003 at 3:04pm
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I have 2 or the Finnor Mega-drag Ahab 20s, I use them for poppering for GTs in the islands. EXCELLENT reels, way superior in feel and solidness than my Penn 850ss. Quiet on the retrieve, very smooth, long cast spool, easy spool swap, SOLID as a brick out-house, high speed retrieve, internals are solid and reliable, really, they are the best spin reel I have ever come across. If you are going to be poppering all day every day, then these are awesome reels. Cannot comment on other applications asi have not tried any! :-) They are a heavy reel though, you certainly do know you have been using them after a few hours. You will have to get them sent from o'seas, as no-one here in NZ sells them. Cheers, Stu.
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Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2003 at 5:23pm
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You're admitting to not owning a piece of fishing gear Stu??? You better go out shopping! Mike. |
Posted By: Peter Montague
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2003 at 5:59pm
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I have used the Finnor 20's for pitching baits at Teased sailfish and small blacks and they have worked A1 , The Penn spinfisher Iam not sure if they have put a bearing in the line roller now ,but the old model I use to have certainly didnt and it made it an absolutely crap reel . Penn make a few nice reels - Like the 80sw's I run (with 80/130lb line and no dramas) but the Spinfisher to me is just not up to full on spinning If moneys no object ie $1000 look at a Van staal spinning reel an awsome piece of aerospace engineering .(I have played with but not used though , Iam tempt but $1000 on a spin reel having seen two Stellas that have crumbled ????? using braid on GT'S here) or in the lower end $200- 300 I have been using a Mitchel 7500VG Nautil (after highjacking from Capt Asp when he was last over ) he had certainly given it a good hiding using braid on GTs (the last fish Capt. caught with was about 40-50lb GT at Exmouth WA) and I have not been much kinder since ....and it still looks and feels like the day it was bought. No stuart you can not have it back !!! |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2003 at 11:44pm
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Hi Peter just sticking up for the spinfisher......yea the new series has a ball bearing in the line roller....but like all reels if you don't look after them they sooner or later will let you down..... mine is 15 years old and still runs like clock work biggest snap is 26lb and kingi 48lb i dont have a problem with it...... Cheers Lethal |
Posted By: Peter Montague
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2003 at 12:27am
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Hi Lethal, I havent used the new 8500 , I had the 850 - structurally and corrision wise (mind u all my rods and reels live in doors and are maintaned as though the were a million $ vintage car - much to my wifes disbelief ) they are fine but the lack of a ball bearing in the line roller was really a big let down not only to me but many fisherman in Aust -- so much so that a guy built a business in Perth virtually on converting them to having a ball bearing. So if the new ones have the roller bearing they probably arent to bad - I havent heard of gear stripping in the spinfisher which is very common with fishing here. the most common reel for that failure would be the shimano TTS high speed spin The spinning i mainly do would probably be better suit to an over head ,the lightest line the reels see is 10kg for pitchbaiting. Then its 50 - 80lb braid on a 24 - 37 landbase game blank built as a spin stick (although they are about to change to purpose built 24 + 37 kg spin sticks -- Capt Asp has one of the new two pc popper blanks --the one Mike Jew is building that fishb8 etc have been admiring they are about to be released in my Signature rod range) chasing our Volkswagon sized GT's , so with this kind of abuse we get to find out pretty quickly what reels are up to the task. |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2003 at 10:03am
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Hi Peter im thinking, really we have missed the piont, Mike Wilson was after a spin reel to fish from a boat strayling down a burley trail, not casting long distances all day long, just flick a bait back behind the boat without getting a birds nest all the time..... Cheers Lethal |
Posted By: Kerren
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2003 at 10:36am
I am with you on that one Lethal.....horses for courses!!!.... ...big difference between catching a feed of snapper and scrapping it out witht he odd kingi than trying for GT's and Sails!!------------- I am Kermit, Leader of Muppets Nov 05 |
Posted By: lipripper
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2003 at 11:12am
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Boys, cheers for all that, I should have given you more info. I use 15kg on a sealine 40hv and 8ft live fibber rod.for throwing pipper and soft plastic at kings, all land base .this outfit dose the job on fish up to 15 or so kgs, but I was intrested in what $1000 worth of egg beater would do. Would like a look at those rods Peter Montague talked about . tell me more please cheers |
Posted By: Peter Montague
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2003 at 2:06pm
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Mike , I will PM you re the rods and on what stores carry our products or alternatly maybe send Capt Asp an email as he got one of the first of these new blanks off the production line just before Xmas , we were at full capaicity building our stand up sticks and unable to build it for him , so I believe Mike Jew has or is building it up for him . As for the Kingies vs Sails , I would suspect your kingies would be a tougher opponent in 30 to 50lb bracket Most sailies are a relatively easy target on 4-6kg tackle but in the intrests of releasing a healthy fish I prefer 10-15 for them .they are good clean surface fighter and patience is the key , unlike the yellowtail submarines or sambos here on the westcoast that seek out the nearest pylon or piece of sharp coral. For those of you who sneak up to the solies tonga etc lb for lb how do you rate your kingies vs the GT ? |
Posted By: Dead Ant
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2003 at 9:03am
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Mike, I have used a Fin-nor Ahab which belonged to a friend for spinning poppers to Kingies . Not much in the way of Kingies but the reel is unbelievable, much as described by Peter. I did, however find some stocked by Outdoorsman in Rotorua. They didn't have parts but did have access to them. Might be worth a call rather than trying to import one yourself. |
Posted By: Sashimi
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2003 at 9:34am
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Hi Mike, ------------- Sashimi...Tight |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2003 at 2:58pm
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Hey Sashimi, do you know of any sites that have these on the net? cheers, Stu. |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2003 at 3:09pm
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Stu i found them all in this site
http://www.plat.co.jp/english/english_top.htm">http://www.plat.co.jp/english/english_top.htm
Cheers Lethal |
Posted By: Peter Montague
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2003 at 3:51pm
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Stu , I see they have the Van Staal reels as well , listed under the big game. Hmmmmmmm.....................I can smell stu's credit card melting from here Actually whislt we are on the subject of jap fishing gear and extreme popper fishing , stu have you still got that pic from Exmouth last year of the Japs --- with the GT's weighing from wait for it......................... a coool 50 for the baby to a 94 pounder for the big sucker , the reef that we chase them on is all of 2 miles from the launch ramp and the suckers live in the surf you should post a copy here and get everyone druling |
Posted By: lipripper
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2003 at 10:53pm
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Lethal cool site ,did you see the new sealine $8000, cheers |
Posted By: Sashimi
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2003 at 12:12am
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Hi Stu, ------------- Sashimi...Tight |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2003 at 1:06pm
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Hi Sashimi.... I am interested in any and all of them really. Not keen on the Stellas, as I am not really a Shimano fan (If only Penn could make a reel of this calibre!), Daiwa has a bit of a link to some possible promo stuff, but I have not been able to find a price on the ryobi safarisor their specs yet to make a decent comparison. i have 2 Finn-nors now, would the ryobis be any better than those do you think? Those finnors are pretty awesome beasts really. what is the ball-park price on a ryobi, do you know? cheers, Stu. |
Posted By: Toad
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2003 at 9:01pm
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I've heard that Japnese anglers favour powerful graphite rods & hi tech eggbeaters with superline and tight drags. They must kill their reels. Spinfishers or Daiwa Black Golds are better choices, more robust than the latest hi tech? Not a problem for the rich, buy a new one. The Mitchell reels Capt. A has mentioned, are they made in Korea? They can handle GT so they gotta be tough, but I doubt they're as good as the Jap. or Americn made reels. my point? I want to catch GT, dogtooth, jobfish, rays bream, kermadec kahawai, mulloway, amberjack, cobia, PNG bass ... |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2003 at 1:08am
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Hi Toad. I have used.. lessee... ummm... Mitchell ummmm 7500GV?, anyhow, the black covered straight spin reel, which has been flawless for me. The baitcaster version is disgustingly weak, do not walk, run away from this one. The normal reel, it is superb, go figure. TiCA Taurus.This is only a small reel, but VEEERY nice to use,very solid too, their new saltwater verson will hopefully be up to the rigours of ocean life, the shiny silver one starts to corrode its anodising in a matter of days. Internally though, awesome reel. Penn 850SS. Yes, the old 850, not the new 8500. Fine reel, sure, but really, like a concrete mixer after you have used to other reels. Finnor Ahab 20 Mega-drag. Built like the proverbial brick outhouse. For a reel that'll beat anything that swims, this is you laddie, i tell you. Great drag, superbly rugged build. have not tried the other reels . Now, as far as i am concerned, no spin reel is ever going to be as rugged as an overhead reel, and their main weakpoint is the bail arm and assembly, this is something the can be broken or bent soooo easily, it is not funny. i have got to the point where I take a spare rotor assembly and bail arm with me whenever I can, to allow for gorillas in airport baggage handling etc. I always spin with Fireline these days, it out performs nylon in all the important ways, like for range, sensitivity etc etc. I'd go for 30-50lb stuffifi were you. I will load mine with 50lb for WA next time, maybe one spol with 80lb if GTsaurus shows up. |
Posted By: Toad
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2003 at 8:08pm
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Thanks Capt Asparagus. I think i was really writing to say that the GT photos were impressive. Got me thinking about my fish wish list. I'd like to add: mangrove jack, samson fish, & a coelacanth |
Posted By: La Tour
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2003 at 1:01am
The Diawa Saltigas are the Superman of Spinners. The Saltigas are maintainence free, with few parts to break, the bail arm is manual and the reel can generate up to 30kgs of drag ( Wait! where's the fighting chair )So, if you want to get just 1 reel (Yeah...Right! as if  ) then get either the Saltiga or Ryobi 4500/5000 or both. Another excellent reel, if you can find it is the TeamDiawa-X 5000 HiA ( no longer in production because it is said to be in competion with the Saltiga and costs less). Ben "What! How Much!!?? ...But I only want one!" |