New 2013 Stella is coming...
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Printed Date: 06 Jun 2026 at 5:49am
Topic: New 2013 Stella is coming...
Posted By: Millkman
Subject: New 2013 Stella is coming...
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 2:15pm
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Check this teaser out!... Hot outa Shimano Japan! http://tv.shimano.co.jp/movie/promotion/promotion2013_stellasw/ ------------- Getdatfish |
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 2:46pm
| teaser allright it dont show **** all |
Posted By: Millkman
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 2:50pm
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Haha yeah you are not wrong....supposed to be released in Osaka (Japan) in Feb, if the info is right.. ------------- Getdatfish |
Posted By: ELEVAR
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 2:59pm
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so they have changed the spool?! haha hel that is a tease... how long after japan sees them can we get them? zac
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Posted By: sid fishus
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 3:36pm
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I agree, bwahaha a new spool you fools. Sell all your Stellas buy the NEW one! ------------- I always tell the truth about things that never happened |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 4:12pm
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The 14000 seems ideal to me for most of my fishing - it would be nice as an in-between reel for NZ and GT's,the 30000 would mean chasing some awesome fish with more capacity and probably a trip to the west coast of NZ..
I wont be selling my current SW's though they have alot of living to do yet,the 2013's would be amazing though if they have lifted the bar even higher from the current models. ------------- as dead as dead is |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 4:13pm
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unsure why Shimano TV released that clip but trust me the release is NOT just a change in spool aesthetics. More later.....but in the meantime.......  ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 4:19pm
| They will get them in Japan way before getting here. Probably not to far off for them. |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 5:17pm
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You know that for fact Dan?...hmmm...nah! ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 5:22pm
 C'mon Kez they get all the goodies first. And they will get a heap more optional models.I will keep an eye on plat...
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 5:25pm
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Okay mate...you do that....i'll keep an eye on our inventory. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 5:33pm
 Fair enough.
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 5:43pm
| so are we getting them at same time as japan.? |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 5:59pm
Some very smart chappies at D Js,if its not spot on for our market we may not even see it ...if it is you can bet the boys at DJs want it 1 st and will do everything they can to get em .... ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Muppet wrote:Posted By: Nomis
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 7:22pm
| I was wondering how long it would take someone to find that video... |
Posted By: Nomis
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 7:23pm
Roll on the experts.....  haha
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 8:11pm
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bit more info ..... http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/lists.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/lists.html one thing i noticed on his list was the fin nor getting the thumbs down . surprised me have owned one and apart from handle snapping of on its first kingy was built like a tank . also of note was the mention of a avet spinning reel - will be interested to see them . |
Posted By: ycha223
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2013 at 2:57am
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Import one from JP?
I know a friend of mine who imports shimano gears from JP to Hong Kong, I'll see if he knows anything about this if yes I should be able to get it off him to couier it to NZ? |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2013 at 7:54am
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na just get a cheap 2nd hand current model as all the showponys will have to have to upgrade to the latest and greatest. just watch they wont be able to help themselves.
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2013 at 11:20am
No chance Angler, The owners of current stella will be out there using them, not mooching around a web site complaining about Brother Michael, releasing gamete's into undies based on a photo of half a spool ??? ------------- "I love standing by the ocean and just knowing what its for" |
Posted By: petethemeat
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2013 at 10:59pm
yeah but I can't find his review for Finnor reels. Am I blind? I like my Finnor except heavy (gives me huge arms though ). and the handle knob which is prick to jig with so put a round aftermarket job on - much better!Don't get me wrong - I'd still rather have a Stella is someone wants to swap
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Posted By: nylg1
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2013 at 4:56pm
Very bottom of that page in the "Reels that I do not recommend" box ------------- “The best computer is a man, and it’s the only one that can be mass-produced by unskilled labor.” ― Wernher Von Braun |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2013 at 6:04pm
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its allready started stellas are showing up for sale at the mere mention of a new modal . i reckon it will be on like fukn donky kong every tackle head in the world will be trying to be the first to get there sweaty hairy palms on one.
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Posted By: petethemeat
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2013 at 7:34pm
Yeah but it doesn't click through to an actual review.
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2013 at 8:04am
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ok who will be the 1st in nz to get one . i propose that fish.net members formally declare there intentions without fear or prejudice on secureing the holy grail .
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2013 at 8:10am
yeah..............nah overhead guy mainly so only have 3 stellas -------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2013 at 8:15am
oohhh stop it
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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2013 at 9:50am
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2013 at 10:05am
| thats the money shot |
Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2013 at 10:50am
haha love it |
Posted By: devonstwest
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 9:54am
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Posted By: Tipper
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 2:36pm
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http://jignpopforum.com/topic/715-more-updates-here-is-the-new-stella-sw/page__pid__4682" rel="nofollow - http://jignpopforum.com/topic/715-more-updates-here-is-the-new-stella-sw/page__pid__4682
the 14000 is weird with a 134 cm retrieve, a bit at the FAST end of things methinks ------------- Please make sure you have the full 'witty' Plug-In installed on your Internet Browser, or the default 'half-witty' output may affect your profile |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 5:55pm
The difference between popping with a HG and PG is moonbeams,I am sure Shimano have some pretty good people doing their R&D,my thinking is that the 14K will become alot of people's go to reel for topwater application. ------------- as dead as dead is |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 9:13pm
Is the 14000 a misprint? where is the 10000 HG in the line up,pretty sure that this a misprint. (never heard of a stella 14000 and it should be below the 10000 models in the line up SW 10000 only comes in HG so looks like the new model will have a PG model as well which is good news ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 11:00pm
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Perhaps the 10000 Hg became a larger capacity 14000 kev ???
------------- "I love standing by the ocean and just knowing what its for" |
Posted By: Fugu
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2013 at 6:58am
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135,000 yen for the 30,000. that's about $1800 so be interesting to see what price we get to see them for. Will they break the 2k mark for a spin reel of the shelf? Look great but don't think I'll be up grading my 3
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2013 at 12:58pm
yeah, you could be right. most anglers put a 16000 spool on the 10k stella anyways. I did ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2013 at 10:24pm
Correct me if i am wrong but doesnt the 1600 spool only fit the jdm 10,000 stella with the + shape underneath the spool but not the usa market sw10,000? or do you mean the JM Monster spool?
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 9:27am
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JDM stella and SW stella 10k are basically the same, so spools are fully interchangeable LBDood. There is a table with all Stella models and what spools fit what reel on 360Tuna under "reels"( couldnt be bothered cutting and pasting to here) ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 10:16am
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Stella 5000SW Spool interchangeable with SW6000** (JDM) and SW5000S (SW6000 is more capacity and SW5000S is shallow spool) Stella 8000SWPG Spool interchangeable with SW10000** (JDM), 10000SW (USDM), SW12000, SOM8000, SOM16000 Stella 8000SW Spool interchangeable with SW10000** (JDM), 10000SW (USDM), SW12000, SOM8000, SOM16000 Stella 10000SW Spool interchangeable with SW10000** (JDM), 8000SW (USDM), SW12000, SOM8000, SOM16000 Stella 18000SW Spool interchangeable with SW20000PG, 20000SW (USDM), SW20000MAX, SOM18000, SOM20000 Stella 20000SW Spool interchangeable with SW20000PG, 18000SW (USDM), SW20000MAX, SOM18000, SOM20000 2002 spool are not interchangeable with the 2008/09 spool. Twinpower Spool are also interchangeable with Stella Spool. ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: livebait
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 11:10am
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135,000 yen for the 30,000. that's about $1800 so be interesting to see what price we get to see them for. Will they break the 2k mark for a spin reel of the shelf? Look great but don't think I'll be up grading my 3
Tui Ad??
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Posted By: The Apprentice
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 9:01pm
| I dont know if any one else has seen this but it looks pretty fefn good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzx0dgPPmrQ&feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzx0dgPPmrQ&feature=player_embedded |
Posted By: KingySlayer
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 9:58am
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Loving the colour of it. Very interest to see how this performs. I wonder what Shimano have done to this considering how good the current Stella is? ------------- www.assassinsportsfishing.com www.facebook.com/assassinjigteam |
Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 12:29pm
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Well the vid would indicate , power, toughness, drag, waterproofing and rigidity. But I don't even own ONE! ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 3:55pm
| looks pretty sick. not rushing to get one but can admire from a distance |
Posted By: fishmad1
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 6:18pm
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Hey Guys, From the videos/pics looks like the bail arm/assy is still the same..  Looks like there is more alloy in the bottom of the spool (where the plastic cover used to be) this carries all the way to the rotor arms (should be more rigid than the current model)  Includes another gear for slow oscillation (can also see this the provision made in the cover - photo above) may also increase bearing count if supported by bearings  Main shaft and pinion appear the same - side plate of different design - one piece handle should be better - beefier main gear than the current one.  More resistant coating etc and redisgned spool lip should be good also... ------------- www.hi-ika.com |
Posted By: crazyfisho
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 7:42pm
| Great Breakdown Fishmad - from the limited info you have.. |
Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 9:49pm
| yeh mad skills picking that up from a video |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 10:20pm
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yep im impressed fishmad1 you know your stellas inside out. wonder how much they will sell for here .
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 11:04pm
I have a usa sw 10,000 ...I went to buy a spool off swordfish steve...he had the jap dom model and the underneath of the spool was like This + ...was a different shape to my one and wouldnt fit....So i didnt buy it...steve said there were a few different spool fittings. My Spool just has a hole for the shaft like this= I I believe the shaft had that + on it too to interlock. ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 11:51pm
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Alan hawke seems to think there is no difference between US and JDM stella's?..... "It is important to mention here that even though some will swear that they are different, both US and JDM Stellas are identical except for cosmetics and colour schemes. Rumours are all over the net about the US model being made of inferior materials (!) with crappy gearing (!!!), reconditioned components (!!!!!), and cheap bearings (!!!!!!!). I did a disassembly of a JDM last summer as I mentioned in an earlier thread, then in November I was handed a US model to take apart and put those rumours to rest, and I can assure you they are 100% the same reels internally, made by the same people on the same machines using the same components. Period. For those interested, here is a list of the external differences: US have different handles with yellow anodising. US come in a different reel pouch. US models have different text on the spool (no "ARC spool"), and the JDM has "Aero Wrap" written on the rear while the US model has "Aero Wrap II" (identical, just marketing). And the JDM has a serial number on the foot for domestic service department purposes while the US does not. I don't have a US model right now so maybe I forgot something, but it's all cosmetics as I said earlier. ------------- "I love standing by the ocean and just knowing what its for" |
Posted By: Alan Hawk
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2013 at 6:26am
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Hello all! Someone emailed me this link with questions, and I thought that instead of answering him privately I should post since I've been mentioned in this thread :)
They are indeed the same, but the countless options and weight difference plus a couple of updates create a lot of confusion. If you look at this series of excellent comparison photos.... http://wanizhan.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/stunning-discovery-stella-sw2008-jdm.html You will see that the bodies of both reels without spools weigh 505/6 grams because they are exactly the same despite rumours that one has different internals (for the JDM subtract the weight of the spool with knob 133 from the total weight 638 = 505 grams). The spool of the US reels is about 28 grams heavier because lf you look closely you'll see that the spindle is slightly wider, and accordingly the skirt is wider and the lip is thicker. After enquiring about it I was told that Shimano thought those spool dimensions balance the reel better for the American market (?). Whether that was it or something else, a fact remains that the internals are identical as evident by the weight in the above link and my own dissection of US and JDM 20K and it's the different handles and spools that create the difference. laidbackdood's case is unique to me and I am not able to tell why it happened. But I have personally put spools from JDM on US reels and vise versa, and aftermarket spools made for 10000 size fit both JDM and US reels, and all compatibility charts found on the web confirm that. Maybe an issue with that particular spool? Talking about spool interchangeability, I said that the 2013 Stella spools were interchangeable with the 08 model, but I took that bit down a few hours later when my source told me he was not sure anymore. It's a risk that you run when you try fishing for unreleased information, and that's why I apologised for any bits that I got wrong in my final update in the thread linked above :)
I suspect misprints in some line capacities, but otherwise the table is accurate. Here is a shot of the 14000 spool and you can see the distinct lip of the old 20K present to add a little bit of line capacity.  Also you can see the line capacity printed in PE and Power Pro breaking strain since the reels will be marketed globally this time and not in externally different versions. Of course this is a marketing decision that could change before overseas release. Just sharing what I know so far.
This one is not supported by bearings. The 2013 SW will have a similar slow oscillation to that of the Stella FB, which by design can't be mounted on bearings because of the small size and the virtual lack of friction due to the small contact area. Here is a pic of the FB system for illustration 
It's not really a one piece handle. There is a joint that's hidden so that it looks line a one piece design. Finally to answer the most frequent question I get, the 30K has the same body of the 20K with a larger rotor and spool. This is exclusive information that has not been published anywhere on the web in any language and I'm posting it for the first time after receiving the question countless times. This is why the spool of the 30K in the advertisement images look short. It has the same oscillation stroke of the 20K but it's much wider, hence it looks as if the spool was shortened. The spool of the 20K looks fine. Cheers all |
Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2013 at 7:31am
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good stuff alan welcome to the forum keep the good work up great reading..... |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2013 at 7:44am
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wow , the hawk is in the house .
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Posted By: bop strayliner
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2013 at 8:35am
Always great reading Mr Hawk! Please keep the posts coming  ------------- Just one more cast!!! |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2013 at 8:54am
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Thanks Alan, good to see you on here i posted a list on the previous page of all the reels and which spools will fit which model Should probably be a "sticky" any Mod like to do this? ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: fishmad1
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2013 at 9:15am
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Spot on Alan...the handle is actually similar to the JM handle....I call it one piece but its actually not, I call it one piece because of the design and the lack of play in the join...but Alan is right it's a multi piece handle.... ------------- www.hi-ika.com |
Posted By: ELEVAR
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2013 at 6:56pm
to wait for a new stella or just buy a 10000sw now... hmmmm big question is when will we see them and how much will it hurt??? 14000 sounds epic zac |
Posted By: KingySlayer
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2013 at 7:18pm
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Angler done a little bit of research and it appears the 10,000 is around the 1,500 mark. Thats based on the Yen Value selling for. Mr Hawke may be able to clarify this. Time frame of hitting NZ? No idea. Did hear Center of this year but who knows ------------- www.assassinsportsfishing.com www.facebook.com/assassinjigteam |
Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2013 at 10:13pm
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i wonder if a fish.net member will be 1st in n.z to snare one. how many days does a package from japan take to turn up in nz . |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 1:26am
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come in swordfish steve!!! he was actually selling his sw10,000 stella spool(jdm model) and not only did it have this underneath the spool + but i am pretty sure it had that shape on the spindle to interlock into the spool......i was pretty keen as he was selling it cheap on here.....so i went around to pick it up and we discovered the difference to my usa model.......i remember well...as it was the first time i met steve. i havent seen that + shape on a stella spool since.... .i wonder if the new stella has upgraded the line roller or not? seen a few of them in a mess. ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 6:37am
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The line roller fiasco has been fixed about 2-3 yrs ago, free parts were available from Shimano LBDood.... the pre 2002 SW spools will NOT fit the new 2008/09 SW reels so Steve must of had a 2002 JDM spool ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 6:39am
anything from 4-8days Express mail, dont ask how i know ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 9:22am
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have had reels in 6 days from taiwan , quicker than some stuff of trade me from the south island . so in theory they should be on sale in n.z within two weeks of being released in japan. |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 8:30pm
There we go...Thanking you ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Alan Hawk
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 12:51am
It's pretty confusing indeed because the 2001 Stella is named "SW" too in Japan while overseas it's called "FA".
I wouldn't know the price in NZ, but the overseas prices aren't going to be marked down as much as was the case with the 2008 SW. There is going to be a considerable hike.
You are right indeed and the design seems to be an improvement to the old one. Remains to see how it will feel in one's hand :) By the way, I forgot to mention this
The back of the rotor is not all metal. There is a carbon composite false floor which replaces the old plastic one and this time it extends all the way to the end of both rotor arms. The fitting of that carbon shield to the aluminium rotor is done very well that it appears as a single piece of metal. The rotor is more rigid indeed but it's because of the new reinforced design :)
I saw it. An excellent and comprehensive list indeed. I will bookmark it for future reference when I receive questions about compatibility. Thanks everyone for the kind words. You are all very generous :) Tight lines! |
Posted By: fishmad1
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 3:50am
Excellent Alan...thank you for that  ------------- www.hi-ika.com |
Posted By: Bryn23
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 7:23pm
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that 14000SW model, looks like it'll be a good popping reel, its got a quick retrieve and 300 mtr of PE6, should do the job mmmm, so when should we expect these new models 1st march????????
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Posted By: crazyfisho
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2013 at 10:03am
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Latest Stella SW Vid - out of Japan (all 15 mins of it!) .....works even better if you speak Japanese! http://tv.shimano.co.jp/movie/promotion/promotion2013_stellasw_3/" rel="nofollow - http://tv.shimano.co.jp/movie/promotion/promotion2013_stellasw_3/ |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2013 at 2:07pm
| http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/default/language/en/cPath/21_39_41_118/saltwater-fishing/reel/shimano-spinning-reels/13-stella-sw.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/default/language/en/cPath/21_39_41_118/saltwater-fishing/reel/shimano-spinning-reels/13-stella-sw.html plat has the prices and reservations uploaded |
Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2013 at 2:20pm
| ooooh, that 14K XG is looking pretty mean, 6.2:1 specs alot like a dogfight |
Posted By: Bryn23
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2013 at 4:30pm
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That 14K XG works to to $1275 NZ (99000yen) and the 5000SW $1160NZ (90000yen), It'll be interesting to see the prices over here. So who has ordered one yet???? Someone must have... (i just clicked onto Kaveman's previous post
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Posted By: FarmerBrowne
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2013 at 1:22pm
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interesting that it appears as though the 08 spools will be compatable with the 13 model
http://jignpopforum.com/topic/729-new-stella-spool-compatibility-information/?&pid=4864" rel="nofollow - http://jignpopforum.com/topic/729-new-stella-spool-compatibility-information/?&pid=4864
Does this mean that the JM 16000 spool which fits both the 8000 & 10000 SW 2008 will fit on the 14000 2013 model?
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