50g Stickbait
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Printed Date: 06 Jun 2026 at 5:49am
Topic: 50g Stickbait
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Subject: 50g Stickbait
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 12:20am
New little 50g bait that is ready for real world testing...Spent some time this morning testing some changes and its all good! This bait has been created from the success of it's 100g big brother, the lure has been scaled down and swims great. Just like it's big bro it is made to swim single hooks, in the photo it is "bakered" using SJ41 7/0 hooks... In all honesty I created this lure out of selfishness, down here in Hawke Bay we can get plagued by "rat" size YTK... so to keep it sporting light tackle is where it is at! Bring on Summer!  Also going out for testing is the big bigger brother... Pictured is the 50g and the 190g... Red Hunter, keep an eye on the mail box... The 50g is coming your way for testing on GT's! ( Ian is my light tackle GT hunter ) Also to keep up with RAL check out - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 and hit the "like" button, I will try my best to keep you all posted and up to date  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
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Posted By: Red Hunter
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 9:06am
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Wow , Thanks Sam , I am getting ready for the season at the moment , I have United Composites designing me a light popping blank , and I was going to ask you about smaller stick baits , our run of Queenfish has just started and I have the rod to test the stick bait out , they are a large fish at this time of year .
Thanks Ian
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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 12:23pm
Here's a better shot of the little fulla in battle dress...  Some will notice that I use insulation tape for the baker rig... I have been playing with this for a while now and I think it has enough merit for me to go ahead and weld some SJ41's together...I don't have a TIG welder so I will track something down and give it a go. Any corrosion coating will be lost but the SJ41's aren't that flash at not rusting... Silicone or CRC etc...after each excursion should see the weld not rusting for a while...well maybe... Using a cable tie is cool but I think it can cause the hooks to skew in the water from the drag it creates, this has more impact on these little lures IMO. Here's a question... How are you lot constructing baker rig belly hooks? Ian, Sounds cool man.. you are spoilt when it comes to fish that take lures so readily! Make sure you try any hook combination you can think of and let me know
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Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 12:45pm
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ReelAppealLures wrote:Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 12:53pm
I had thought of wrapping the hooks with a light gauge wire then applying epoxy... Swiss/Finnish lure builders add epoxy to their trebles for ballast... I was thinking a weld because of the strength factor... I can see everything else getting mangled... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Red Hunter
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 1:54pm
| Sam , with the little one , I would not worry about 2 hooks off th belly , I will only run a single off the belly , as it will get swallowed in there big gobs any way . |
Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 2:54pm
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I've only ever used insulation tape. I was shown by a mate from the states, it was explained to me that they prefer them taped as opposed to rigid so if the fish gets both hooks dug in that they can flex rather than lever against each other. I've never used anything other than tape so can't really comment to if the thinking behind it is correct or not... But it works taped so I've not found a need to change ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: brown
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 7:40pm
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awesome looking bait Sam, im liking the 50g sticks at the mo esp in the shallows. let me know when they hit the shelves please.... btw i just use a cable tie bro -------------  |
Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 8:27pm
| Like the shrink rap idea -awesome I'm going to that - must be better then expensive dangerous trebles. |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 11:55pm
Cheers bro... Elephants do eat peanuts Will keep you posted. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 11:58pm
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Love the finish on that lure ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: silver335
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2012 at 6:01pm
| Beauty of a Lure Sam, i dont know what would not eat that Little One!! |
Posted By: Joker
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 2:21pm
| Hi Sam, Have you tried binding the hooks with light copper wire then soldering them - I'm sure they will be string enough then. |
Posted By: PoppinTonga
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 6:09pm
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Again, Nice work Sam. I have had some of my best luck with small stickbaits. I believe that having a variety of sizes is best. With the Baker rig, I think it is best to not tie the hooks together too strongly, i.e. weld/solder. I believe one of the reasons for them breaking a part when a fish strikes is that you are then fighting the fish on a single hook. If you weld them together, then you may end up with some of the same weird forces on the 2 that make trebles weaker than singles. Just something to ponder. I gave one of your lures that you left me to a Japanese angler that is here filming a TV show. His name is Kei Hiramatsu. Your stuff is highly worthy of their attention. I expect to see a great pic of a capture with that lure soon. ------------- Tis better to have hooked and lost than never to have hooked at all. |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 6:46pm
Thanks for all the input guys... Hi Kurt, I'm now thinking the same thing, I don't want a rigid connection... Guess tape it is for a slim/streamline connection that is easily repaired. I still have to get those other lures to you to test the new wiring... Will chase this up and I will be in contact. Hopefully Kei san does just that and puts it to good use Hmm I also have something in the pipeline that you will like but my lips are sealed...Wee way off yet. Aloha ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 8:39pm
| Instead of tape could you use a bit of heat shrink tube, maybe get a diameter that shrinks down firm without being really tight. There's still some flexibility there once force is applied but is reasonably rigid until you start applying force. Just a thought! |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 9:04pm
But then I would have to carry heat shrink and a benzo torch on the boat... I like the idea but probably not practical for myself, take enough crap out there as it is  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Red Hunter
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 10:16pm
| Sam , I really don't think the little fella needs 2 belly hooks , I run a single on your small poppers , and at that size there is no problems with hook ups , and by the way I am thinking Barra ? |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 5:12am
Ian, I am heading down this track... I will need to get some smaller inline hooks. Like you mentioned the size of these lures nearly always has the fish inhaling it and once in it's gob hook ups happen. Stick baiting for Barra... I want to be in on this ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Red Hunter
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 10:00am
| Sam , apart from owner , I also use Decoy Sergeant JS-1 for inline . |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 9:54pm
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Been scratching away at some wood getting another test sample ready... This is going to Ben @ Nomad, start of the season last year saw the kingies' biting the smaller lures up top; so I'm wanting to get this up there for testing ASAP... Ben tells me she's just around the corner... Here's some photo's of the foil process...And a little sneak peak of the bait...  God dam wrinkles!!  About an hour later, all smoothed out...  Another 20minutes to add some scale texture...Ready for epoxy... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |