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Topic: New Dogfight 7000H
Posted By: GSPOT
Subject: New Dogfight 7000H
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2012 at 10:15am
Just saw this. 

Now what rod do I need to go with it!

You can get 440 yards of 100# Braid on this reel. Amazing capacity and it is waterproof with Daiwa's Mag Seal.  Max Drag 66.0 lb and weighs 29.7 ounces.

Due out in USA in September.  $1399US





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Posted By: YeeHaa
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2012 at 1:32pm
Nice! I take it your planning to cast Stickbaits/Poppers with it?

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Posted By: GSPOT
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2012 at 1:37pm
Just dreaming and getting my keyboard covered in drool for now. One day would love to have one. I would be thinking for Stick Faced Fish with that kind of line capacity, must be near 600m of 36KG daiwa tournament braid.   

Just thought i would share what i saw.  

YeeHaa - Do you know of any plans for it to be released in NZ?


Posted By: Elpescador
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 8:36am
Yep that is very good lookin, However at 1399us ill stick to the cheap stellasLOL


Posted By: NICK3617
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 9:05am
Tha old one is a mean reel,that's the meanest yet!

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Posted By: Aaron32987
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 10:37am
Originally posted by Elpescador Elpescador wrote:

Yep that is very good lookin, However at 1399us ill stick to the cheap stellasLOL
Stella's prettier too. Big smile


Posted By: Nomad
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 8:16pm
Originally posted by Elpescador Elpescador wrote:

Yep that is very good lookin, However at 1399us ill stick to the cheap stellasLOL

go the stella's, hope they have sorted out the sticky drags the old ones have.


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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 12:49am
Originally posted by Nomad Nomad wrote:

Originally posted by Elpescador Elpescador wrote:

Yep that is very good lookin, However at 1399us ill stick to the cheap stellasLOL

go the stella's, hope they have sorted out the sticky drags the old ones have.
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Posted By: Nomad
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 7:50am
Originally posted by laidbackdood laidbackdood wrote:

Originally posted by Nomad Nomad wrote:

Originally posted by Elpescador Elpescador wrote:

Yep that is very good lookin, However at 1399us ill stick to the cheap stellasLOL

go the stella's, hope they have sorted out the sticky drags the old ones have.
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for that sort of coin you would hope you would get a top of the line product out of the box, not something you would have to change before its any good, 
 STELLA'S, only way to go


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Posted By: NICK3617
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 10:43am
At the end of the day u get what u pay for,some people are shimano supporters and some are daiwa,what ever one u like is ur own choice,but I like this reel!my old dogfight was the same design for over 10 years,that's a good thing,so can only put the cash down on this one and see if it can do it again!I think the 6500zh underdog punched well above its weight!

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Posted By: KingySlayer
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 11:16am
I am currently looking into purchasing either a Stella or Dog fight, however my knowledge is rather thin on the Dog fights. What i do know is i like the size of the Stella 10k. So what size does the 6500 and 7000 compare to in size terms to the Stellas? I am mainly after topwater use for this was thinking for way down deep but as we have all our JM gear for that there is no reason for us to start using Egg Beaters as well (meaning the 18k and 20k Stellas).


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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 11:35am
Just curious here...are you saying the stellas are sticky drags straight out the box? Most sticky drags i have come across happen over time as the washers wear out or dry out....The washers on my sw 10,000 didnt get sticky but i have heard a stella 10,000 when they do and they dont sound nice....I have also heard that the stella washers are not up to standard but that was an issue with the ocea jiggers too....Once you put some quality washers on board= problem solved(that is what i have just done with my worn out stella washers) but i agree...They should be good in the first place...especially for a grand + reel...Some better quality carbon washers(heavy duty)...something shimano should sort out right now.

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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 12:08pm
Originally posted by KingySlayer KingySlayer wrote:

I am currently looking into purchasing either a Stella or Dog fight, however my knowledge is rather thin on the Dog fights. What i do know is i like the size of the Stella 10k. So what size does the 6500 and 7000 compare to in size terms to the Stellas? I am mainly after topwater use for this was thinking for way down deep but as we have all our JM gear for that there is no reason for us to start using Egg Beaters as well (meaning the 18k and 20k Stellas).

Looking at the capacity quoted earlier in the thread this would put the 7000 in between the 18K and 20K size... On a 20K you will fit 475 yards of JB Hollow 100# and on a 18K you can fit 425 yards, on the 20K Max you will fit 550 yards. (Remember JB 60# can test at 95# so if you want more capacity this could be an option)






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Posted By: KingySlayer
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 12:12pm
So basically if i want a dog fight i am either looking at the old 6500 which is around the size of the stella 18k or the next dog fight coming out which is obviously the 7000 and not quite as big as the 20k? So as i am wanting a 10k sized stella then i am basically stuck with the Stella? For me i dont mind going either way as they are both great pieces of tolls.

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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by laidbackdood laidbackdood wrote:

Just curious here...are you saying the stellas are sticky drags straight out the box? Most sticky drags i have come across happen over time as the washers wear out or dry out....The washers on my sw 10,000 didnt get sticky but i have heard a stella 10,000 when they do and they dont sound nice....I have also heard that the stella washers are not up to standard but that was an issue with the ocea jiggers too....Once you put some quality washers on board= problem solved(that is what i have just done with my worn out stella washers) but i agree...They should be good in the first place...especially for a grand + reel...Some better quality carbon washers(heavy duty)...something shimano should sort out right now.

I think you are misunderstooddood LOL... Ben meant the sticky drags on the Daiwa.

Do you really think Shimano would use "washers are not up to standard" kit in their flagship model? This kind of "I heard" information is rubbish, Shimano has their drag sorted on the Stella period, service the reel accordingly and you have the best reel on the market.




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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by KingySlayer KingySlayer wrote:

So basically if i want a dog fight i am either looking at the old 6500 which is around the size of the stella 18k or the next dog fight coming out which is obviously the 7000 and not quite as big as the 20k? So as i am wanting a 10k sized stella then i am basically stuck with the Stella? For me i dont mind going either way as they are both great pieces of tolls.

I think you will enjoy being stuck with the 10K Approve The 10K is a nice "fit" for casting all day, and more than capable. 

The only change I have made to the 10K is to remove the bail trip, hopefully the next generation 10K is manual trip only. 


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Posted By: Nomad
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 1:07pm
you are right Sam, i did mean that the Dogfight has a sticky drag.
I am speaking from a charter captain's point of view when talking about reels, the reason I like stella's is because they are bang on straight out to the box and when I fished with the Nomad Ozzy guys seeing them giving their stella's the work out day in day out, it was a no brainer to go with them.
KS in my opinion if you are looking to just use a reel for top water, a 10k stella is the only way to go, dont get caught up in the hype around drag and spool capacity as a 10k has tones of drag and at the end of the day as long as you have 200 to 230m of main line you are good to go, plus going with a 10k they are smaller and less bulky to use, so all in all that is why I have six of them.
        


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Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 2:07pm
What a load of crap this thread has turned into, someone posts about a new product in the market which people may be interested in and all of a sudden it's hijacked and turned into a Stella ad.


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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 2:59pm
Wink

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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 3:07pm
Originally posted by ReelAppealLures ReelAppealLures wrote:

Originally posted by laidbackdood laidbackdood wrote:

Just curious here...are you saying the stellas are sticky drags straight out the box? Most sticky drags i have come across happen over time as the washers wear out or dry out....The washers on my sw 10,000 didnt get sticky but i have heard a stella 10,000 when they do and they dont sound nice....I have also heard that the stella washers are not up to standard but that was an issue with the ocea jiggers too....Once you put some quality washers on board= problem solved(that is what i have just done with my worn out stella washers) but i agree...They should be good in the first place...especially for a grand + reel...Some better quality carbon washers(heavy duty)...something shimano should sort out right now.

I think you are misunderstooddood LOL... Ben meant the sticky drags on the Daiwa.

Do you really think Shimano would use "washers are not up to standard" kit in their flagship model? This kind of "I heard" information is rubbish, Shimano has their drag sorted on the Stella period, service the reel accordingly and you have the best reel on the market.


in a word "Yes"...i bought a second hand stella and found one of the washers was split....No doubt the previous owner had abused it some what but i have since bought washers from the states that are far better quality.The old washers were thin and easily broken...very happy with what i have now.Suprised that Diawa have sticky dragsLOL


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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 3:23pm
Everyone has a right to their opinion on this site,whether you agree with it or not...Just because you dont agree with someone or something ,doesnt automatically give you the right to be rude.Freedom to to expression opinions without rudeness is a wonderful thing.Keep it that way.Wink

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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 3:41pm
Making an assumption based on your experience of a second hand stella's drag, compared to a new one is pointless and adds nothing to the discussion. God only knows what punishment the reel was subjected to prior to your ownership. Saying that your new drags are better than the factory ones without having used it from new is an invition for ridicule. Not being rude just stating an opinion.

Addit: In the interests of adding something to the discussion, I have caught marlin on a stella, and been a party to another couple caught on the previous model Saltigas, they are both very capable, and of note the guys I fished with had Saltigas on the boat, that they rated higher than my stella, the saltigas had caught some very large fish repeatidly over years of use and kept on keeping on, no drags where changed in the retelling of this tale. FWIW



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Posted By: Nomad
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 3:59pm
Originally posted by ginga ginga wrote:

What a load of crap this thread has turned into, someone posts about a new product in the market which people may be interested in and all of a sudden it's hijacked and turned into a Stella ad.

nice input there mark, full of info, as you can see the thread has evolved into KS asking for some feed back, as someone that uses daiwa I would have thought you would had some good feed back to help here.


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Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 4:28pm
Originally posted by Nomad Nomad wrote:

Originally posted by ginga ginga wrote:

What a load of crap this thread has turned into, someone posts about a new product in the market which people may be interested in and all of a sudden it's hijacked and turned into a Stella ad.

nice input there mark, full of info, as you can see the thread has evolved into KS asking for some feed back, as someone that uses daiwa I would have thought you would had some good feed back to help here.
There was people already jumping on the Stella bandwagon well before KingySlayer asked the questions about what to purchase.
 
As for input into the Daiwa dogfights Saltigas and , they are awesoem reels and love all of the ones i own(which is a few).
I have had one particular Saltiga Expedition now for 5 years which has been threashed,basghed and abused. It has done countless trips on my boat, several to the Three Kings and Ranfurly banks and is still running as smooth as silk, no sticky drag on this one either. I dont know how many times i have cringed when this reel has been smashed down into the side of the boat when a customer has hooked an out of control king. These reels are buitl to take the punishement and have done that for me.
I have a couple of the new model saltigas on the boat and have found no issues with sticky drags from these at all.
Check out the guys fishing from Big Angry fish, both of these guys are big units putting soem serious drag onto the fish and the drags all appear to be pretty smopoth to me.
Hope that hepls.
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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 7:33pm
What is frustrating is how little information there is for interested parties in regard to the Dogfight 7000H...With a release date of September some time you would think more info would be out there? With a little more info it would help balance the thread. 
 
Is the reel "new" or re-designed, or simply has a larger spool? I see the 7000 size spool has been available for the 6000GT, 6500 and the 6500H for some time now... $375NZD.

Tried the good old "google" search and produced very little results.

I don't use Daiwa reels, so for those who do what is the difference between the Saltiga and the Dogfight? 


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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2012 at 6:46am
good to read the opinions of charter guys there gear would get a lifetime of normal fishing in a year ! 
but as far as guys using gear on a tv show goes umm i think sponsorship would be the reason they are using em and if something crapped out it would be edited out to not show the sponsors product in a bad light , but yeah those muscleheads sure do lay into em and the saltigas sing allright ,


Posted By: Badfish
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2012 at 8:19am
There is no difference Sam, A dogfight IS a saltiga, it's full name if you will is Daiwa Salitga SA-Z Dogfight. The only difference is the dogfight is the high speed model so far as I'm aware.
I only own the Dogfight, I have used the other saltigas (expedition) and a few stellas (FA and SW) but can only comment on the long term use of mine. I bought this one second hand after selling the new one I bought and used for a few years, I only sold it as I wasn't getting the trips to the islands as I originally thought I would. I regretting it a year or so later.
Mine has had no upgrades to drag or even grease and has had everything from pe4 to pe10 run thru it under light drag and huge it has never let me down. No excessive gear burrs as I've read about in forums in the past... nothing but a brick ****house reel that I would happily stand behind and put up against anything else I've ever used. Thats not to say the stellas are crap or any less of a reel, I just happen to own the daiwa and I do find a lot of the criticism of them very unwarranted.
 
I'll end by saying personal choice is just that and if there was one perfect reel for the job, there would be only one reel manufacturer and they would make only one reel. Thank god or whoever there isn't I say!


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Posted By: KingySlayer
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2012 at 2:58pm
Great info there BadFish. Thank you for clearing up the differences in the Dog Fight to the smaller Saltigas.

Anyway i found this guys on the Aus Diawa website.

%20 - http://daiwafishing.com.au/?p=11949



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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2012 at 7:52pm
Cheers KS, 

That link didn't want to work? Don't know why but here it is again...

http://daiwafishing.com.au/?p=11949 - http://daiwafishing.com.au/?p=11949


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Posted By: Elpescador
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2012 at 8:37pm
The reel pictured at the begining of the thread is a BRAND NEW model which is mag sealed like all the other NEW saltigas. It is as yet unavailable here.It looks stunning and Im absolutely sure it will be a great reel i just think its price will be a little steep for me.Ying Yang


Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2012 at 9:21pm
Ive owned SW Stellas and the New Saltigas - both are awesome reels. I'm sure the Dogfight will be every bit as good as its baby brothers...

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Posted By: PDSquid
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2012 at 9:33pm
thrash the f**k out of them all 

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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 9:28am
Originally posted by PDSquid PDSquid wrote:

thrash the f**k out of them all 
 
True that  Clap



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