Dragging for piper
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Topic: Dragging for piper
Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Subject: Dragging for piper
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 4:10pm
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Just bought a drag net and wondering if anyone has got tips on what to look for in a likely location... looking for fresh dead/skip baits as opposed to burley so keen to avoid YEM's if possible although probably unavoidable! ------------- Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we can't eat money. |
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Posted By: Ben2012
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 4:17pm
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Yeah last time I tried to net piper I caught about 1000 herring and only 1 piper. Did you read this? http://www.fishing.net.nz/index.cfm/pageid/50/view/yes/editorialID/545
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Posted By: fatjimmy
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 4:22pm
| were you get your drag net from.. i have been meaning to get one actually.. |
Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 4:30pm
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Got it from H&F Botany (the olds had given me a voucher for xmas)
Yeah saw that article thanks Ben. Some good pointers although I'd be wary of the stingie factor if burleying! ------------- Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we can't eat money. |
Posted By: like_to_strike
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 5:00pm
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have a look at these mate. i brought one on friday so hopefully have it by the weekend www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/6DFNPNNP3/title/pukehina-nets-piper-net-20m |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 5:10pm
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These guys do good nets at a reso price there Saul; http://shop.actionfishing.co.nz/Piper-/-Bait-Nets - http://shop.actionfishing.co.nz/Piper-/-Bait-Nets We have found we generally can find more piper on sandy beaches whereas we tend to get more herrings in the harbour/estuarine areas, and with that baby Kahawai which we don't like taking. Trevally too bearing in mind their 25cm minimum length... ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: MrRabbit
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 5:15pm
| Omaha. Between two kayaks. They are so plentiful out there we actually get them jumping into the yaks. |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 5:18pm
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Dragged at Pt Chev with Doubie once and all we got was YEMs. did it on the high on a calm evening.
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Posted By: like_to_strike
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 5:19pm
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Catchelot can you give me a couple tips for piper netting. im in whangarei too and have never draged a net before and was just going to go try a few places. any places to try? anything appreciated. cheers mate |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 5:30pm
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It is a hard one Brett as you never know where they are going to be, but generally an hour or two before high tide and you have to go and look, hard to spot also, so good polaroids are a must as they swim just below the surface and see if you can see the odd one leap out of the water, piper scatter and leap horizontally an awesome sight when a kingie of kahawai round them up to see a fleeing school. So sandy beaches like Ruakaka, Oceans, Pataua, Matapouri, Whananaki, Oakura, Bland Bay, Elliots, and so on. Take some bread stale is best and rub it between your hands to get a sort of fine breadcrumb type consistency and biff that out and watch it, not just throw chunks and expect something to turn up as the seagulls will find it first. Or if you are keen don a snorkelling set and quietly have a swim out and see if you can spot any. And when dragging a net get it out quickly and quietly and then go around the fish and back to the shoreline. A small dinghy rowed is best as you can attach a length of rope to each end of the net to you can go out further. ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: like_to_strike
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 5:51pm
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wicked, thats all the info i could have wanted. this weekend ill try to give it a shot hope wether holds off. now to convince the mrs to go on the deep end!!!! ha yeah right. Anyway thanks for that |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 6:01pm
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And get two broom sticks as well Brett to tie the top and bottom of the net so obviously on the deep end the bottom of the net is well down and with the person on the shoreline make sure they let the person out at the deep end remain well in front and they sort of hold the broom stick on a kind of 30 degree angle again to ensure the bottom of the net is well down. And then there is the method of laying the net and that is where the broom sticks or tough old ti tree sticks come into their own. There is quite an art to beach seining and it is to hard to explain via typing, but done right and you wil be rewarded with other royalties like Flounder, John Dory and even Grey Mullet. As many folks are very surprised to what fish can be caught just of the beach in depths most swim at.  ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: like_to_strike
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 6:19pm
| choice. i wasnt even thinking about making sure its sitting on the bottem for flounder as a by catch. |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2012 at 9:35am
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just remember there are different mesh rules for different fish and if you catch them in the wrong sized net you have to release them. http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/Recreational/Fishery+Management+Areas/Auckland+and+Kermadec+Areas/Finfish.htm?wbc_purpose=Basic%252525252525252526WBCMODE - :link: This chart is for the Northern Region  ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: Marligator
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2012 at 12:47pm
| We used to net piper in Woolshed Bay which is the next small bay around from the car park at Urquarts, also used to net them from the 12 foot tinny on the island/bank in the middle of Urquarts, difficult to place to net but heaps on this bank. |
Posted By: JOLLY
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2012 at 7:59pm
| Chuck a stone or two out, piper jump when they flee if you land one within a few meters |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2012 at 8:02pm
Sssh Vance...no fish there  ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Marligator wrote:Posted By: mushman
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2015 at 7:30pm
does any one have any info on dragging for piper around the Foxton area?? Any help would be appreciated 
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Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2015 at 8:57pm
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Eel grass is what they will sometimes congregate over or near papau rock - good piper fishing is all about habitat and timing.
Oat bran is better burley than bread if avoiding by -catch of other species. If using bread or bran soak it in sea water first or you will spook piper by attracting birds/gulls. Less of problem with bran though.
Yellow eyed mullet still a good bait and burley, although piper are premo for kings and snaps.
Nets are overall an indiscriminate form of fishing, piper are great to catch on a light rod, and can be caught in good quantity on a light rod and reel, even a light handline off boat or wharf.
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