Karikari Peninsula
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Printed Date: 27 Jan 2026 at 9:38pm
Topic: Karikari Peninsula
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Subject: Karikari Peninsula
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2012 at 4:38pm
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looking for some info on the area please, would like to get out to the point,I see there is a hut/house correct(google earth), would it be easy to walk to boat,can you camp out ??? any info would be great guys either post here or send pm please ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
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Posted By: deacs
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2012 at 4:46pm
 Heres a good picture of where access is denied, i was up there around New Years and the road out past Matai was blocked by Maoris, (i am guessing demanding money) to get any further. Best bet would be to boat in, wouldn't want to risk leaving the car at Matai so maybe Whatuwhiwhi? Either way would check with locals before camping any further than Matai, you can camp at Matai Bay so if staying there maybe it wouldn't be too bad then boat up the coast, (easy beach launching) i think as long as the holiday makers are there you would be fine with safety of vehicles etc I only went out for a look and beautiful place it is pity the road block made me so irate i couldn't enjoy it as much. |
Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2012 at 6:32pm
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Not a lot of easy walk in spots mate... mostly private access or if u have a kayak a whole world of oppprtunity awaits! I know a couple of average walk in spots if u dont have a kayak send me a pm ------------- Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we can't eat money. |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2012 at 7:03pm
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runner about will do the job, looking at heading that way for 2 weeks abit later in the season-mid to late Autumn chase the big ones ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2012 at 9:07pm
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PS mate if you are looking at the white building at the very end of the penninsula on google maps, that's the light house ------------- Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we can't eat money. |
Posted By: Aaron32987
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2012 at 11:21pm
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hey deacs - did it look like they were letting people past who were willing to pay? I'd be happy to pay to access across, if it were their land that were the case. I thought that there was simply no access at all, which would be any legit land-owner's right to impose, if they wished. it does sound like there is a bit of agro associated with it though. why would you not leave your car at Matai? thought that was a pretty family oriented DOC camp out there? |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2012 at 11:33pm
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were the light house is I was told there is a doc hut as well, if not thats not a problem happy to sleep under the stars, ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: deacs
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 9:14am
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I am pretty sure no one owns access to the beach Aaron. It was the way they went about it, big road block, shut fence with Maori symbols on it, with 3 guys standing behind it, I am pretty sure they were letting people through though, didn't really stay around looking at it for long. I am unsure of actual ownership rights up there. On the other hand we drove through to another remote place with private access all they had was a box saying donations for the road, i know where i will be putting my money.... Why wouldn't i leave stuff at Matai: Have you read many other stories about trying to get access up their and then also people having things stolen? i have no doubt in summer it would be a great place to stay. I would not stay or leave my stuff there if there wasn't plenty of other people camping, just the feeling i got from the place and from past stories, it was a pity as i was hoping to not be able to confirm the feelings/experiences other people have had. Anyway lets not let my thoughts ruin Scuzzys thread I have only been there once. Scuzzy I would check with DOC first before venturing out there, as the map shows you can't access there by road as it is prohibited so doubt the hut would be open for the public to stay in but who knows would be awesome if you could! |
Posted By: Boz19
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 10:10am
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You haven't been able to get up that road past Matai towards the cape for ages Deacs, not since I've ever been up there, admittedly that's only going back 6 or 7 years though. Always gate across and private property signs etc. Might have been letting locals through to their houses etc... ?
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Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 10:15am
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I know a couple of farmers up that so will make some inquires, ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: deacs
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 10:58am
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Yep best way to do it scuzzy if you are in the know with the locals you will have no problems. trust me boz it wasn't just a gate that they were only letting locals through, i am pretty sure i could see what was going on.If there is a lighthouse that works and a doc hut wouldn't it mean its DOC land? Then again that doc hut may be the one that the "extremeist" who threatens to shoot people has claimed for himself |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 11:43am
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just spoke to mate who is a farmer up there and his words were- if you value your life and belongings go by boat, and there is a guy living near the light house that will cause you grief , how ever if you contact the local iwi they will give you a pass($$$$$$$$$$$$) but that does not guarantee you or your gear will be safe, I will still investigate this further as there is always away around things sometimes one just has to play the game to get the out come required ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 12:06pm
Scuzzy if you get stuck you can lend my LBG yak on the way up to access spots I will also give you a spot or two to try.  Been up there a few times never had any issues touch wood apart from my mate having a stone thrown at his car. If it gets bad just fish off the yak 
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Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 12:12pm
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mate thanks for the offer, I have access to a irb so no problems there, I know some good people up there so will chat to a few others regarding access, ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 12:17pm
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Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 2:08pm
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If you have access to an IRB there's no point at all in going any further than Matai. Matai is perfectly safe and if you're worried park your car up the top of the camp by the DOC office. All good. ------------- Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we can't eat money. |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 3:50pm
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Keep up with those stories, they are great, they keep a lot of people away. The limited authority access is great, it keeps it a special place. Each time I have been up there I go to a local's house. The people that live there are part of the local hapu and act as part of the collective kaitiakitanga for the rohe. They have always appreciated the fact that I come to them firstly, introduce myself, have a korero and ask permission. A bit of koha always goes along way. I find it hard case that each time Karikari comes up in discussion here there is misconceived undercurrents that run with it. I find it even more bizarre that predominantly the people who know and understand about issues the least, whatever it is, have the most hardened opinions on such. DOC is commonly known as Depatment of Confiscation in the North. The local hapu and DOC works in partnership and yet some issues and land claims/ confiscations still go unjustly unresolved. I believe that there is more than the odd 'pakeha' land 'owners' who do not like people traipsing across their land without permission. I know I'd be piassed if people walked across my back yard, doing whatever and going wherever they choose, unannounced. Imagine a good fraction of Auckland holiday makers ignorantly doing so in your backyard over the summer. Do as you do, but just remember the far north have a healthy appetite for certain life forms. I guess it depends what window you look out of, and guess I'm just lucky as my shades are rose tinted. ------------- 6th place in the inaugural Te Kauwhata Regionals paddle crab division |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 4:11pm
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good grief. Hey Mark when you get up here give us a shout bro. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 4:13pm
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some good comments there fish i,I agree with alot of what you say,I have gained private access to alot of areas in NZ by doing so, also find honesty is the best policy when it comes to land owners as well, also not to abuse the access, I will contact the local iwi up there and chat with them then arrange to meet up, just finding the right people so will chat with some mates up that way first to find out. ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 4:18pm
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got your PM bro but your box is full ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: runnerdog
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 5:34pm
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I was just up there, it's a truly special part of the country. I saw the gate to cape Karikari next to the Matai bay DOC camp, and thought that it was perfectly fine, for the landowners to fence their property like that. It would be great though if they had an old golden syrup tin for koha, even in the off peak seasons of the year for keen anglers. I would be truly ripped though if an abomination like Karikari estate appeared on that headland. The fishing on the headland between the two small bays (matai and waikato bays) should be a good spot. I didn't get to check that out, but we walked further over to the far end of waikato bay, this had a 'keep out' gate to get to the far end of that bay. But we walked along the beach instead, in an attempt to get to florence bay. It is tricky when people have gates like that right next to beaches, because that is all queens chain, and should be accessible to anyone. But it felt to me like that one would keep out families and nosy parkers, most anglers would be more adventurous and just cross it. |
Posted By: lbg fiend
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 10:35pm
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Fished up there quite a few times scuzzy , If you ask permission from the local iwi and give a healthy koha - all will be great . the 1st few times we were there we didnt get permission and had our cars dented , windows smashed and gears all stolen along with nasty comments etched in the paint work ...and learnt the hard way . awesome lbg spot but 100% iwi permission is expected and needed. if you get that you will be good as gold . well worth the trip ------------- The winner of a war is never determined by who is right but by who is left |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2012 at 10:48pm
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son come back from there today Mark, said he had a great time and no hassles for any of them which was good to hear. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: SufixRockMan
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 1:19am
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What's to stop your car getting smashed and your gear stolen even if you pay the koha? Sounds like a ****en **** situation - pay us or we will damage your personal property. |
Posted By: Boz19
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 9:29am
Just some scum bags out to make a buck mate. What a joke.
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Havok wrote:Posted By: Cbro
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 9:51am
| I think you guys are missing the point, they like the land and don't want everybody to spoil its beauty including Kiamoana stocks. You can talk to the Iwi to get permission (helps if your related or know them) but be aware the kids up there are opportunistic regardless of who has permission. |
Posted By: SufixRockMan
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 9:52am
| So why pay the koha if you can't safely cross the land? I thought that was the point? |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 10:04am
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there is an old saying guys when in rome..... many years ago when Matai and the peninsular were on fire and it remained this way for years it was nothing to go to the locals and ask for permission to cross the land, back then they never asked for a thing infact my olds would stop and offer them a feed of snapper, we were always welcomed back with open arms, the same at Spirits Bay the local Maori where the best people I have ever come across, they would turn up at night for a beer and a chat and you know the typical Maori we all loved was the fella who was laughing and carrying on, never wore sun glasses at the table, sure he would swear but always said sorry to the family and we loved those people, I remember one year at Spirits there was a hangi put down by the locals, must have been 200 people turn up mostly campers but the place was still humming come dawn and you know when it was all said and done the place was spick and span, there was a mutual respect. Now a days you are approached and they try to intimidate, for some it don't wash and it is these clowns and that's all they are that are giving their own a bad name, so don't let a few ruin anything for you. Its a little sad but I deal with some of these people on a daily basis and to this day I dont have a problem with them, when you dig below the surface......... treat people how you want to be treated, I know myself anyone comes on my property unannounced will get a rocket I expect the same goes for them, if you ask and are turned away well move on who cares, really your not missing out but it just leaves a long lasting bitter taste in ones mouth. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: The Brown Hornet!
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 10:18am
we fished up there recently and found the fishing out over the sand in Doubtless Bay was much better than over the other side. Stayed at the Whatuwhiwhi Top Ten Campgrounds who had a great wash down and filleting station as well. Beach launch is a 5 sec drive from the camp. Will definatley be back there again 
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Posted By: the angler
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 10:56am
| yep it sure is a aewsome part of nz . we fished matai and doubtless for a few days not long ago left our hilux on the beach had no problems .more fishing spots up there than you can shake a stick at so not being able to access the point wasnt a issue .white sand warm blue water it must be just like living in paradise . |
Posted By: Boz19
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 11:45am
Ok Cbro by your reasoning because I like my local beach and don't want it's beauty spoiled or kaimoana stocks plundered I should go down there and start smashing cars up and intimidating people who use the beach unless they ask permission first and pay me a koha?
I understand that crossing private land of course you have to ask permission, give a koha etc, I have no problem with that. But when your car gets smashed up when parked at a public beach like Matai Bay that is a disgrace and plain thuggery.
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Posted By: Naki-Fisher
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 2:00pm
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Very well put Blue As a kid we use to stay up in Nartaki Hohora and we had a ball with the locals as you say treat everyone as you would want to be treated yourself, 9 times out of ten it works. ------------- The 20lb+ Snapper club No Longer Eludes me Broken with a 12kg new PB Goal for the next 12 months: catch another 20lb+ Snap and watch it swim away Hook a King LB here in the Naki. |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 3:56pm
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Haven't heard of many people getting grief when just parking at matai (or any other public access or DOC area) and fishing there. More when people might park there and wander across private land etc to get to fishing spots. Fished up there alot in my younger years with the old man without issue. Would again but just need to go the right way about it. Permission when crossing any private land is key and whether its by koha or just popping in to say hi then so be it. You simply do it if ya want to fish there. Otherwise fish elsewhere. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: Cbro
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 4:29pm
And do your kids do anything they are told not to? Boz, you sound like a real jerk with an attitude problem..get over it, theres low life thieves everywhere you go.
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Posted By: Rusky
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 4:58pm
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Funny how if you go to any coastal areas in the South Island this sort of thing doesn't happen? Ive also heard they limit access because of so called crops they have hidden away...
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Posted By: Naki-Fisher
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 5:01pm
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Guys please don't fill the post with personal attacks, each have there own opinion and welcome to it. Let it be if you don't like a comment forget it and move on. Life is to short to worry about it, go fishing instead. ------------- The 20lb+ Snapper club No Longer Eludes me Broken with a 12kg new PB Goal for the next 12 months: catch another 20lb+ Snap and watch it swim away Hook a King LB here in the Naki. |
Posted By: ThomasW
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 5:23pm
I know quite a few access which require a donation or toll to use. Also know of more then a few locked gates, many thanks to DOC. All in the South Island. |
Posted By: Kingie69
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 9:35pm
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i bet scuzzy is thinking...why did i ever start this thread... i think this forum is becoming a hunting ground for people who cant fish and wish to criticize others. before this forum came about for me i had no way of knowing what was happening around the country (except for fishing news which is a month later) i reckon if ya got something negative to say to someone USE THE PERSONAL MESSAGE SERVICE. i'm just getting fed up with the bun fights... go back to face book and leave this forum for the true fishermen ------------- elusive goat island night fishing club |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 9:36pm
------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: welshbaz
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2012 at 9:54pm
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The karikari peninsula is a beautiful spot, I've fished up there a few times now, once camping at Matai bay and the other times day trips whilst staying in Mangonui. It's possible to access karikari beach for a surf cast by turning left just after the matai bay turnoff but before you get to the gate marked private property. Maybe I've been lucky but I never had any problems whilst fishing up there. My last time there in June 2011 I met a couple who lived in one of the houses further up the peninsula who were out for a walk on the beach and gave them a 40cm pannie I caught whilst we were having a natter ( I was after bigger stuff for club points). Had a pod of dolphins cruise past another time. Love fishing that beach and will definitely head back again.
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Posted By: Chefspearo
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2025 at 4:53pm
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Hey mate, I'm up around KariKari for the next week, and hoping to do the odd dive. I don't have any boat or kayak, so will have to be walking access. I've been looking at left side coopers beach, maitai Bay, and Whatuwhiwhi to be potential spots. You mentioned in a previous post having some okay spots accessible by foot, do you mind sharing the Intel? Cheers, really appreciate any help! |