Tips for a Surf casting setup
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Topic: Tips for a Surf casting setup
Posted By: kaoss
Subject: Tips for a Surf casting setup
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 6:48pm
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Hi Guys, I hoping you guys can give me some tips on a good setup for surf casting. I just bought a Silstar Covert 12' Rod and I am on the look out for a good reel. I want to know some information regarding the size of the reel and also some help on what weight line to use. I'll be doing mostly beach/rocks with this setup.
------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
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Posted By: Seashepherd
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 1:45pm
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Pretty much any fixed spool reel that can hold a couple of hundred mtrs of 10kg mono will be fine. In price you can pay $50-$300, you get what you pay for. Reels are one place I don't scimp on, losing a good fish to a sticky drag will cost you hundreds of $ worth of self-critism, lol. Your rod will have a few ratings on it, sinker weight and line weight. Ideally line, rod, and reel will form a nice balance subjective to the user. heavy line weighs more and causes more friction, shortening your cast. To light causes break-offs, so line, or even a particular set up is then balanced to a particular spot or conditions. 10kg is a good all rounder, but I will use anything from 6-15 kg. A reel with spare spools is good for this. Hope that's of some use.  edit- great advice here. http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/surf-casting-your-best-tips_topic72024.html ------------- procul piscaturam mox terga |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 10:02pm
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Thanks for the advise that has been a great help! Now I just have to get a decent reel and some good tackle and I'll be away laughing and posting my big catches on here! ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Seashepherd
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 10:23pm
Hey K, I got back in at 8pm with a 4kg rig. Lost another right beside the beach of about 8kg. Get into it! 
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Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 10:27pm
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I know I can't wait, problem is that I am still on the hunt for a decent reel. I had my eye on a reel but decided it was a little hasty. A friend of mine (who referred this website onto me) is going to give/lend me a reel to get me started. At the moment most of the funditure is going towards the wedding in Feb, so the fishing can has been depleted. I was lucky enough to score my 12 footer off trade me for $15! Ahhh I can't wait to get my lines wet! ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2011 at 11:23pm
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Get a long cast reel, you will better off for it :) ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">  MH... Catch measure release...<*))))< |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 8:43am
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Sorry nOOb question but any examples of a long cast reel. I just want to make sure I get the right thing. ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Nebula
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 9:59am
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1st one i came across http://www.discountfishingsupplies.co.nz/shop/daiwa-saltiga-surf-6000-long-cast-surf-reel-p-3075.html - http://www.discountfishingsupplies.co.nz/shop/daiwa-saltiga-surf-6000-long-cast-surf-reel-p-3075.html bit chaching but there are cheaper google long cast reels if thats what you really need good luck. ------------- When it's all over, it's not who you were. It's whether you made a difference. - Layzie Bone |
Posted By: Seashepherd
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 10:00am
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The spool on a long cast reel looks stretched out. This eliminates some of the friction that is created during casting as the line comes of the spool. ------------- procul piscaturam mox terga |
Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 5:52pm
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If you really want to make a long cast reel and 150-200mtrs every time, get one of these http://www.alvey.com.au/default.asp?contentID=448 - http://www.alvey.com.au/default.asp?contentID=448 but as your not use to casting such large reels and want an egg beater reel. go for a long cast reel that suits your budget or if you can wait buy quality and never look back. cheap reels wont last long in the salt water environment. save up the xtra :) PS yes i know other folks can cast up to or more with free spool reels ok :) ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> MH... Catch measure release...<*))))< |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 9:55pm
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Awesome info guys, As for that link for the reel, I'm not sure I would be capable yet with that kind. Give me a couple months to get into the midst of it then I will start getting more serious. But you guys have been amazing with your help. Me and my fiancé are heading to Mairangi Bay in the morning. Hopefully I will be able to post some pictures of our pot! ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Seashepherd
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 10:19pm
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Sweet! only hooks in the water catch fish, good luck. ------------- procul piscaturam mox terga |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 1:14pm
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We found a wicked spot in castor bay, get there before high tide and leave after low. We got there a little late this morning (9 ish) but as soon as the bait hit the water we were busy. Unfortunately due to some old tackle I lost some nice fish. We landed a small spottie. Didn't bother taking a photo cause it was a little small really. Over all a good day bar the tackle issues. Sorting that out later on this week. (Pay day )Looking to go out later this week and am very excited. We found some snapper carcases that was around 40cm in size, so I have hope for this site yet.  ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 2:15pm
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Penn 760L Slammer
Maybe 3 years old, but used a dozen times. A few cosmetic sratches but in great knick, all my gear gets throughly cleaned after use.Its currently loaded with braid, which I think you'de be better with mono for surf casting, so I can strip that. Normally the "live liner" (baitfeeder drag) disengages when you wind the handle. This one doesn't, probably just something sticking, would be resloved easy enough if opened it up, but as it wasn't an issue (just click it over manually) so I never bothered.
Refer http://www.discountfishingsupplies.co.nz/shop/penn-slammer-reel-p-4740.html - http://www.discountfishingsupplies.co.nz/shop/penn-slammer-reel-p-4740.html for specs & new price.
$125 to your door if you want it. PM me
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Posted By: Seashepherd
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 2:23pm
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Sweet Kaos. I popped out about 10 south of Blenheim, just got back. Managed two rig of around 4kg. That Penn slammer would be sweet, grab it if ya can. ------------- procul piscaturam mox terga |
Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 3:35pm
| Penn Slammer listed buy/sell/exchange, be quick |
Posted By: Hsvl
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 3:35pm
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Hey K?oss were you fishing off the breakwater or the rocks? what where the fish you lost snapper or kahwai? ------------- It hit like a freight train, line peeling and drag screaming the rod now doubled with a tell tail nodding and Salt thickening within the veins. |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 3:59pm
Hey Struc that slammer looks wicked, I just don't have the mula for that now (my fiancé went and spent $175 on make up for our wedding in Feb) so I'm a little short at the moment.
Yeah we went of the breakwater, gets you nice and close to the deeper water. The fish was very likely snapper, we didn't see much KY there. ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Structfab wrote:Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 4:23pm
Hey Struc that slammer looks wicked, I just don't have the mula for that now (my fiancé went and spent $175 on make up for our wedding in Feb) so I'm a little short at the moment.
 best put a stella on the wedding gift register then |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 6:16pm
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Haha that is prob not a bad idea. Thanks! ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2011 at 9:24pm
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Are these baitfeeder reels any good? http://www.discountfishingsupplies.co.nz/shop/rovex-nitrium-ni4000-freespooler-spin-reel-p-4356.html - http://www.discountfishingsupplies.co.nz/shop/rovex-nitrium-ni4000-freespooler-spin-reel-p-4356.html http://www.marine-deals.co.nz/kilwell-reels/kilwell-rxb45-bait-feeder-reel - http://www.marine-deals.co.nz/kilwell-reels/kilwell-rxb45-bait-feeder-reel http://www.klabs.co.nz/shopexd.asp?id=312 - http://www.klabs.co.nz/shopexd.asp?id=312 ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2011 at 11:49pm
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Hi stay away from rovex, it's a branded reel, crap as crap can be. crap that is crap and rovex is crap. get a good surf casting long cast reel. your better off in the long run. most of the surf casting guys n gals can point you in the right direction, as for the other two reels, one is for softbaiting and the other is for spinning both not good for surf casting..oh btw stay away from javis walker thats crap to :) ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> MH... Catch measure release...<*))))< |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 7:21am
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A thought dawned on me last night about those reels. I saw one in America Okuma avenger that I can land here for around $90 NZ. These reels are to go on a smaller rod but I wanted to make sure that I check them out before hand. I was indeed looking for a baitfeeder reel to go on my new 7' rod I just got. Thanks for the info I'll go with the Okuma insteed! ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 7:24am
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Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 8:46am
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I'll take you up on your advice. I will do that now. Cheers for the help. I knew that if I was to ask and get more information I would potentially save myself a lot of cursing and cringing!  EDIT: Done! Its posted.
------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: sulla
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 10:49am
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I just bought an Okuma Oryx 65a last week, have taken it out to put it through it's paces and it's awesome. The dude I got it off said he got it from the fishing tackle shop website (apparently it's an Aussie site) for $99 bucks. This is the info off the site about the reel;
Features • Infinitive Anti Reverse Bearing
• 5 Sealed S/Steel Ball Bearings
• Anodised Long Cast Aluminium Spool
• Graphite Spare Spool
• Multi Disk Oil Soaked Felt Drag
• Worm Shaft Oscillation
The Okuma Oryx long cast fishing reel has a gear ratio of 3.8:1 and a max drag of 9kg. The okuma Oryx is a large size fishing reel great for longer distance surf or rock casting.
Line Capacity is 560 yards of 12lb fishing line - 400 yards of 15lb - or 330 yards of 20lb
I'm not really down with all the technical stuff - I just whacked it in the reel seat and took it to the moana, threw it out there. It cast heaps further than my Jarvis Walker Integra Silver does and after a while I found I was obsessed with getting casting distance and not so much with catching fish. Which, as you would agree, is arse backwards!! I like the reel though, it's tough, a recognised brand, and it was a bargain.
Good luck dude, go hard, get out there and catch a feed. |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 11:46am
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Thats sounds pretty awesome dude, Thanks for the info I'll check it out. At some point I will get a decent long cast reel. ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Nebula
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 3:55pm
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Also bro, I'm the kind of fisherman who is on a very tight budget. Although I can understand the prejudice towards Jarvis Walker gear, I've found that my surfcasting reels and rods that are Jarvis have done me well. Most of the fish I've caught have been off an Integra Silver which I've had for a while now with no problems. I just look after it and don't expect it to do anything it wasn't designed for. I got one of those budget blue Jarvis Walkers as well, and that's been cool. Hard core gamer is right about the rovex stuff though; it's ****e. ------------- When it's all over, it's not who you were. It's whether you made a difference. - Layzie Bone |
Posted By: Nebula
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 3:57pm
Oops! That last post was from Sulla; I'm at Nebula's house jacking his account  ------------- When it's all over, it's not who you were. It's whether you made a difference. - Layzie Bone |
Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 4:07pm
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We get a lot of big 20kg plus kingfish from the beach up here. so we need a reel with at least 200mtrs of line on, i have 400mtrs just to be safe, as a sting ray will spool ya no worry's. so get a good quality reel ok. better to be safe than sorry later on ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> MH... Catch measure release...<*))))< |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 6:35pm
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I ended up getting that Penn 760L Slammer on a Penn Power Stick PPS 6601 TBM from Structfab. Picking that up on Monday. My work mate has given me a Silstar strike LF80 that he got as a combo but wasn't using. I will save up some money and get a better reel at some point but it does for the time being. I just wanted to get out there. Here is a link to it: http://www.discountfishingsupplies.co.nz/shop/silstar-strike-lf80-surf-reel-p-2357.html?osCsid=9a59b1e878f01d906ee21bd06260 - http://www.discountfishingsupplies.co.nz/shop/silstar-strike-lf80-surf-reel-p-2357.html?osCsid=9a59b1e878f01d906ee21bd06260 I haven't had the opportunity yet to actually land anything on it so its still has to make the cut. But I have some hope for it yet!
------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Seashepherd
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 8:34pm
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Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 10:53pm
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I'm excited bout heading out again. Hopefully I will get out this Friday morning/evening, and if all goes well land me a decent sized snapper! ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: sulla
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2011 at 7:11am
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Cool bro, good luck!! ------------- NO BETTER FRIEND NO WORSE ENEMY |
Posted By: Quenty
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 7:12am
| Does anyone rate fin-nor fishing gear? Going to buy my fishing surf rod and reel today. |
Posted By: Nebula
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 8:54am
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Good luck for friday Kaoss Fin nor is ment to be ok gear i think Quenty from what iv'e heard, i have not tried that gear out personally just word of mouth, i just use a 13ft BBE an boca 80 baitfeeder, i miss my beast master tho was a good rod ------------- When it's all over, it's not who you were. It's whether you made a difference. - Layzie Bone |
Posted By: SpidersWeb
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 11:04am
Unless you snag a king or a ray, I think you'll be sweet. Issue I've found with the cheaper reels, is more that they tend to fall apart or have inferior saltwater protection. The drag or casting ability seems to be fine for general use (for the most part). I've killed 2 x Silstar ($40 and $100), 1x cheap Abu Garcia, and the handle fell off my Jarvis Walker (but same factory as Silstar possibly, as the Silstar handle bolted up perfectly!). Survivors are two shimanos and a quantum (and the JW/Silstar cyborg). Boca 80 from Quantum on the other hand, I've given it torture over the last few months and it feels like new (just don't look it!). Nice work on the Penn, let us know how you find it. |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 11:16am
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Cheers, Yeah shes a bit windy today, I'm hoping to get out this arvo after tech. Going to try some new techniques and also some new bait in the spot by castors bay. Hopefully if all goes well I should have some pics to shows. And I hope then I don't hook up a ray or a kingi with the Silstar Strike. Plus not sure if I would rate myself against a kingi yet. Suppose we'll find out! ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 11:20am
Oh bother...  I just remembered I have a work do today! Lame. I'll go out tomorrow after work then.
EDIT: Found a way around it. Steel a few Hours from tech and boom some FISHING time! ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Quenty
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 6:20pm
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I actually purchased a Okuma Latitude LD 90a reel and a 13ft rod combo for my first surf set, could not use it as I could not fit the tip to the mid section, it just would not fit, will go back to Hunting and Fishing tomorrow. Think the day was too bright, no action at all around Eastbourne.
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Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 5:09pm
That sucks mate. I hope you get it exchanged.  ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |
Posted By: Quenty
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 6:15pm
| Yep no probs, heading out to niwa tomorrow with the family, hide tide is about 12:45 I think. Heard some good stories around there. |
Posted By: kaoss
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 8:30pm
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Awesome, that sounds excellent. Let us know if you get anything. Better yet post us a pic! ------------- Mama always said "Life is like a line in water, you never know what your gon' get!". Kâôšš |