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Topic: Which SST maps to use?
Posted By: Bakes
Subject: Which SST maps to use?
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 11:19am
So i'm thinking about using more SST data this gamefishing season.

I've purchased a couple from OceanSST in the past (which were awesome), i see NIWA has subscriptions available for $50 a month and there's also some for free on swellmap.

What sites/subscriptions are people using and how have you found them??

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Posted By: Renegade
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 3:33pm
I use Ocean SST maps for Tournaments, Paul puts out an excellent map, on a day to day basis, last year I signed up to http://www.seasurface.co.nz - www.seasurface.co.nz alot more imfo than NIWA, they have contour lines, current lines, personlised maps and alot more, costs about $ 300 for the whole year, you can go on the site and get 7 day maps free have a look.


Posted By: redone967
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 11:35am
We prodominantly fish the west coast from raglan port where southwesterlies and strong currents can alter temperatures by 2 degrees plus or minus on a daily basis. We ran the niwa package last season and apart from the days where cloud cover restricted the image,and I believe you would have this issue with any of the services, we found it very effective, I feel the swellmap range is just a bit to broard. One thing I would like to see Niwa do is change their lat and long lines to degrees and minutes rather than breaking the degree down into hundredths of a degree( almost have to carry a calculator to convert the marks to plot it onto the chart plotter). the package cost us 150 for 3 months(minimum deal) and then tacked another month onto it at the end for $50 if I recall correctly.


Posted By: Bakes
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 12:02pm
Thanks guys.
More research to be done into seasurface.co.nz. Counting down the weeks now........

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Posted By: TM.
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 6:59pm
One thing about niwa that pissed me off last year was their dodgy coverage late december through mid january....maybe they were all on holiday but sometimes they didnt update for around a week.....that annoyed the crap out of me and I was only a pay per view customer......it was particularly frustrating last year as thats when we had a great bite in early jan.....if I was a subscriber and they did that I would be asking for a refund over those periods....pretty sure it wasnt a cloud cover issue as some of those days were cloudless


Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 7:25pm

I have gone down the road of automated sst maps, and it is just a pain in the arse, With live data it can vary so much and giving data that is not correct, due to cloud interference, and this can look like temp breaks as well. You really do need chlory data in conjuction with sst data, as this is not effected by thermal.

If you go with Niwa it pays to get the Com subscription if you want to find where the main body of warm water is and what is coming of it. If you are just looking for local temp breaks, then the $50 option is ok.
Seasurface.co.nz, is pretty damn good as it gives you both chlor and sst.
 
oceansst.com is really just an on call fish finding option, just start your engines and go for it.
 
There all good, just depends how into it you are as to what you get out of it.


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Beautiful is better than ugly, Explicit is better than implicit, Simple is better than complex, Complex is better than complicated.      http://oceanmobilemap.blogspot.co.nz/


Posted By: Kingie69
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2011 at 9:24am
Originally posted by TM.... TM.... wrote:

One thing about niwa that pissed me off last year was their dodgy coverage late december through mid january....maybe they were all on holiday but sometimes they didnt update for around a week.....that annoyed the crap out of me and I was only a pay per view customer......it was particularly frustrating last year as thats when we had a great bite in early jan.....if I was a subscriber and they did that I would be asking for a refund over those periods....pretty sure it wasnt a cloud cover issue as some of those days were cloudless
i will also add that the data will not update untill about 12pm-1pm on mon -fri and when i go out on any given morning i find myself going off yesterdays and if i go out monday morning i have to use fridays. is there a better option ?


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Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2011 at 10:00am

If you need live updates, thats easy if it is not cloud covered. but if you follow the ssts over the week, then you should be able to predict were the break that you have been watching is moving to.

 



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Beautiful is better than ugly, Explicit is better than implicit, Simple is better than complex, Complex is better than complicated.      http://oceanmobilemap.blogspot.co.nz/


Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2011 at 11:13am
Originally posted by TM.... TM.... wrote:

One thing about niwa that pissed me off last year was their dodgy coverage late december through mid january....maybe they were all on holiday but sometimes they didnt update for around a week.....that annoyed the crap out of me and I was only a pay per view customer......it was particularly frustrating last year as thats when we had a great bite in early jan.....if I was a subscriber and they did that I would be asking for a refund over those periods....pretty sure it wasnt a cloud cover issue as some of those days were cloudless

have to agree bro, been looking at the swell map ones, as a rough indication and a gps position and contour lines for the temp breaks it is not a bad one


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Posted By: redone967
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2011 at 1:08pm
I have to agree with TM on the issue with update delays


Posted By: Fishermen
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2011 at 5:51pm
bouy wether has just loaded a new feature to there site,they have 4 sst maps to compare data on,small monthly fees,current directions and everything else you will  need 


Posted By: corokid
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 4:03pm
Just rebooting an old post , thought I would have a search before starting a topic already covered Cool
Has there been any new providers of SST charts and relative info.
I am presently using a 15 day free trial of Fishtrack.com and would like to compare other options before signing up. Seems pretty good to me with sea temps , batho charts , chlorophyl? and current directions. Alot of the additional information such as fishing reports are more global but that's not the main purpose. 
Pricing seems very reasonable at $79 per year for premium , however I will check that as seems a bit cheap compared to some charges previously mentioned.
Thanks


Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 4:09pm

The niwa ones have been free this year ...



Posted By: maxtarakihi
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 12:31pm
I subscribed to fish track ,turned out to be $79 US which came up on my credit card as $120 NZ.I can't see any difference from the free bit.There is a pay monthly option which I thought I applied for but that didn't happen.Not sure it was worth it now.


Posted By: corokid
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 12:48pm
Originally posted by maxtarakihi maxtarakihi wrote:

I subscribed to fish track ,turned out to be $79 US which came up on my credit card as $120 NZ.I can't see any difference from the free bit.There is a pay monthly option which I thought I applied for but that didn't happen.Not sure it was worth it now.
Thanks for that , I can't recall seeing US$ on pricing , thinking about it did not say NZ either , cunning plan. 


Posted By: NZTurtle
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 6:24pm
Oceansst - can't beat it! Mange2 on here. Higher cost but better value. You will save it in fuel over 5 days

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Posted By: corokid
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 7:11pm
Originally posted by NZTurtle NZTurtle wrote:

Oceansst - can't beat it! Mange2 on here. Higher cost but better value. You will save it in fuel over 5 days
Thanks for that , had a couple of calls with same recomendation , support local forum member too , so will probably go with that. Understand it is a month by month option if preferred. Thumbs Up


Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 6:54am
It is the best Dave. I have used Fishtrack in the past but it is so basic. Ocean sst are so much better


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Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 12:13pm
Thanks for the support.

It is to be used in development of the service.


Price point is reflective of the market.

But quality is my main focus.
There are a lot of weak points to be addressed.



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Beautiful is better than ugly, Explicit is better than implicit, Simple is better than complex, Complex is better than complicated.      http://oceanmobilemap.blogspot.co.nz/


Posted By: Hodder
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 1:11pm
Yeah I'd go for ocean SSTs far better updates and detail.


Posted By: DenimViper
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 1:39pm
plus ocean SSt can do specialised maps for xtra $$


Posted By: yknot
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 3:45pm
Ocean SST highly recommended

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Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 3:47pm
Ocean SSTs,
He's a kiwi, I think.
He's a member of this forum,
He's passionate about what he does,
It's an excellent product.
It keeps getting better.
It doesnt catch fish though.....
But it can put you in the zone where fish could very well be and considering it's a big bit of water out there, it's a good place to start.

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Still cruising in my now sweetas pimped out Southern 755 HT0!


Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 6:57pm
Bit of info here;

http://www.fishtrack.com/features/how-to-use-sea-surface-temperature-charts-to-find-fish_106832" rel="nofollow - http://www.fishtrack.com/features/how-to-use-sea-surface-temperature-charts-to-find-fish_106832


Posted By: corokid
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 7:07pm
Originally posted by mangre 2 mangre 2 wrote:

Thanks for the support.

It is to be used in development of the service.


Price point is reflective of the market.

But quality is my main focus.
There are a lot of weak points to be addressed.

I had a study of Ocean SST site last night , definately a very concise and complete service. In addition to the basic subscription the custom tournament packages look impressive. Have a couple of queries that I will probably place through the site contact option as relating to subscription plan.
However one question is probably relevant to forum , is it possible to overlay SST data to chart plotter via SD card etc. Unit on new boat is Garmin 5012 with G2 Vision card?
Edit: Thanks , almost forgot my manners.


Posted By: corokid
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 7:11pm
Originally posted by MATTOO MATTOO wrote:

Ocean SSTs,
He's a kiwi, I think.
He's a member of this forum,
He's passionate about what he does,
It's an excellent product.
It keeps getting better.
It doesnt catch fish though.....
But it can put you in the zone where fish could very well be and considering it's a big bit of water out there, it's a good place to start.
Well it sort of catches fish for you , but won't wind them in . Maybe that's one of the upcoming improvementsLOL
Otherwise full marks .
Cheers


Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 7:49pm
Corokid,
That is a question I get asked often.

I'm sure it could be done.





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Beautiful is better than ugly, Explicit is better than implicit, Simple is better than complex, Complex is better than complicated.      http://oceanmobilemap.blogspot.co.nz/


Posted By: Gowest
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by corokid corokid wrote:

Originally posted by MATTOO MATTOO wrote:

Ocean SSTs,
He's a kiwi, I think.
He's a member of this forum,
He's passionate about what he does,
It's an excellent product.
It keeps getting better.
It doesnt catch fish though.....
But it can put you in the zone where fish could very well be and considering it's a big bit of water out there, it's a good place to start.
Well it sort of catches fish for you , but won't wind them in . Maybe that's one of the upcoming improvementsLOL
Otherwise full marks .
Cheers
 
If you have a tablet take it with you as a separate screen and it shows you where you are on the maps also. Pretty cool


Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 3:55pm
The other day while fishing out past Gt Barrier, I had downloaded the latest SSTs from Mangre as had my hot coffee anchored in Nagle bay before the sun rose, and my mobile phone with its infinite wisdom via its automatic GPS location showed a computer dummy like me exactly where I was on the SST chart with GPS co-ordinates, very helpful (even if the stupid fish weren't particularly)..is guaranteed marlin not part of the package?


Posted By: corokid
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 4:44pm
Thanks GOWEST and Espresso , two options to work with.



Posted By: macka2012
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 6:50pm
Bringing back a post from the dead, what is the best SST's on the market today? OceanSST seem pretty good but before I make the dive would like to hear what the market has to say.


Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 10:16pm
Well by biased veiw is Ocean eyeq.
Too many reasons why.

Nz er business, back up.
Quality of tools.
This tech is as off the shelf at the top as you'd get.

But like all tech, needs familiarity and some smarts.
You'll only know how good it is a few seasons down the track.

Take good advise now and jump on in and learn from the best tool you spend bang for buck.

As I said I'm biased.


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Still cruising in my now sweetas pimped out Southern 755 HT0!


Posted By: macka2012
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 10:21pm
Thanks Mattoo, sounds good to me.


Posted By: yknot
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 6:46am
Originally posted by macka2012 macka2012 wrote:

Bringing back a post from the dead, what is the best SST's on the market today? OceanSST seem pretty good but before I make the dive would like
to hear what the market has to say.


Great product and support

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Those that say it can't be done are being overtaken by those doing it.


Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 11:02am
Thanks for that, I hate posting about the service on facebook, only the odd image and thoughts.
Nothing is straight forward with maps, I do spend lots of time looking at data, and may find it a we bit quicker to mark areas with some degree of confidence. Information is key, so use all you can ears data eyes. I do mark areas on a week basis to load over your maps. Some people will share there catch, and some are not so keen. But overall it is not that important to me, it used to be.

So don't get to hung up on sst maps etc, far to much brain drain.  hence the zone marks, try working these if you don't hear of anything better.


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Beautiful is better than ugly, Explicit is better than implicit, Simple is better than complex, Complex is better than complicated.      http://oceanmobilemap.blogspot.co.nz/


Posted By: Gatekeeper
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2019 at 6:32am
So what about for Nelson Westcoast SI - who/what software would you recommend as i see not all cover our area and with the warmer water pushing further south each year we have been getting good tuna bites.

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Posted By: macka2012
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2019 at 8:19am
Originally posted by mangre 2 mangre 2 wrote:

Thanks for that, I hate posting about the service on facebook, only the odd image and thoughts.
Nothing is straight forward with maps, I do spend lots of time looking at data, and may find it a we bit quicker to mark areas with some degree of confidence. Information is key, so use all you can ears data eyes. I do mark areas on a week basis to load over your maps. Some people will share there catch, and some are not so keen. But overall it is not that important to me, it used to be.

So don't get to hung up on sst maps etc, far to much brain drain.  hence the zone marks, try working these if you don't hear of anything better.


Is there a video on how to use the zone marks? That is one thing that i cannot get to work. Noaa NASA and chlorophyll work ok.


Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2019 at 7:04am
flick me an email

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Beautiful is better than ugly, Explicit is better than implicit, Simple is better than complex, Complex is better than complicated.      http://oceanmobilemap.blogspot.co.nz/


Posted By: fillets
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2020 at 8:38pm
Any yarn here on how to get into these charts?


Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2020 at 8:59pm
Contact Mangre, pm him all will be revealed.

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Still cruising in my now sweetas pimped out Southern 755 HT0!


Posted By: bite
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2020 at 11:14am
i like windy tv s sea temperature / current chart  , it sort of explains why theirs a big yellow fin concentration in at the alderman islands and coro . 




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