Stand up or chair
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Topic: Stand up or chair
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Subject: Stand up or chair
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 11:28pm
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what are you guys preferring to do when it comes to the bigger gear, stand up or chair. I run all chair 80s but this year I will be running mostly stand up gear, well to tell the truth I will be running all spinning gear so it will all be stand up with them, comps will be different as I will run the 80's but not 100% sure whether I will run them stand up or not. So what are most of you doing I would be interested to know.  One thing I have found it the black magic equalizer is useless when it comes to the small rods so have got one of those small gimbals and have set it up so it sits over my left leg and gives good balance, it has been trial and error here but feel I have sorted it out ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
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Posted By: Adam Scott
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 9:16am
Given that in NZ 90% of our marlin are Stripeys and where there is one theres generally more, so multiple hookups are fairly common. In my opinion its not a bad idea to have rods that you can handle easily standup even if you decide the chair is your favoured option. After catching a couple on chair 80 bents standup before on doubles I was glad so see them off our boat, dispite being in pretty good shape at the time they nearly killed me. Faster tapper straight 80 chair rods are very comfortable standup in comparison and still give you the chair option and could allow mixed line weight spreads aswell if desired.
Depends what you are doing tho I guess, if tease n switching you could have one of each setup and use what you want depending on fish size or angler.
For me, I think I will be getting fewer days on the water(or atleast out wide) so the plan is to fish just 10s and 15kgs to get the most out of each fish we come across.
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Blue Asparagus wrote:Posted By: otter
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 9:42am
| have go with a jigging master gimbal belts lots more options to make it fit the angler |
Posted By: Wind Up
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 10:51am
| Stand up for the us as normal. Caught my first from a chair earlier this year and found the experience rather dull compared to 37 stand up. However I'm off to Cairns late November to play with the big girls. The skipper has been advised of our preference for 80 stand up and given the amount of backing down on fish they do to beat the sharks I don't think it will really matter what weight we are on within reason. He is in agreement and hopefully we will get to tease and switch a big one.Certainly 130lb chair fishing does not hold much appeal. |
Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 11:05am
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130lb standup ! ! ! Good luck and I hope you are built like a Georgian front rower as I cant imagine how my body would stand up to it based on the 1.5hrs in the chair on a grander a couple of years back on the UL which we ended up loosing.
Yes you will get the big girls to the boat quite quickly in most cases even with the 80lb gear and backing down hard was the way to go.......BUT.... there are also the ones that if you miss the early shots then you will be in for the long haul ! 130lb stand up .... crikey ! a different beast all together !
Im leaning towards going back to stand up this year when Im on the boat as my 1st experience with standup with a big chair Rod was not good. The skipper will still run the bent butt chair rods.
The only other option was to look at the 1/2 or 3/4 butts which would give you a slighly better cross over when required . Im yet to track them down though ! ------------- http://www.blackbillsportfishing.co.nz/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 12:49pm
| Standup is fine if its calm but flock that on a rough day. |
Posted By: Wind Up
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 12:59pm
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Unless I am mistaken I can not see where in my post I refer to fishing 130lb stand up. 37kg with around 20 kgs over the tip seems to be about the maximum most can handle hence 130lb is out of the question
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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 2:20pm
Roger that Wind Up  . Hope you get those big girls in and released quickly enough on the 80"s then before those big Tiger Sharks turn up. Good luck over there. Totally awesome experience to be had. Who are you fishing with over there ?------------- http://www.blackbillsportfishing.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 2:25pm
My trip with Batfasterd and Dohboy last season taught me heaps. I always though that **** would be easy given all the standing up I do on beachs/bricks. But holy **** I was ****ed after a few mins with a tiny little mako on the other end. Wasn't rough, but wasn't flat out west either. Much much harder off a boat then I thought. ------------- A man’s comfort in life can be measured by the quality of the toilet paper he uses to wipe his arse. |
Posted By: Wind Up
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 2:58pm
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Stand up is my preferred option Zambizi as I find you can really put the hurt on fish and not yourself. You must have faith in all your gear and be prepared to lay back and sit on the fish via your harness.If you don't it is a painful waste of effort. Also always have a crew member behind you at all times in case of a bust off - sure can hurt hitting your head etc . |
Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 4:25pm
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Nice boat and renowned skipper. Sounds like a great trip ! ------------- http://www.blackbillsportfishing.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Tagit
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 4:52pm
| Call me silly, but I quite like my chair. You get to concentrate on the gear and the fish without having to worry about getting tossed around the boat on all but the calm days. For extra challenge if you find chair fishing a bit easy, just start moving down line weights. Quite happy to go stand-up also, but when it is rough I get tired of getting jerked around by the boat. I figure most anglers (other than the super experienced) will get a fish to the boat a little quicker in a chair, so that helps with successful releases as well. |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 5:08pm
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thanks, I will be running spinning rods and reels and the big gear can wait till the comps are being fished, it will bring a bit of fun back into my fishing, as for 130lb stand up, well its done all the time down off greymouth and the results speak volumes. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: alan syme
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 7:18pm
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hi BA, i am interested to hear more about your ideas regarding the spin gear. do you plan on trolling lures with them as per usual or do you have something else in mind? i assume you plan to use braid on them for the line capacity & drag loads. is this correct? i have done quite a bit of game trolling with my spin gear and really enjoy it, but i have not got a marlin on it. i have had a few cut offs of other lines on the braid when hooked up to wahoo/tuna etc. you can really pump them to the boat fast though compared to normal game gear. how many lines at once? lots of questions and you may not be keen to reveal all your ideas, but i am interested to see what you are thinking. cheers |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 8:15pm
no worries Alan happy to answer and if you can add please do. You got mail ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: JIMMY NAIL
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 10:16pm
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I actually prefer standup steve its more exciting and more of a battle!
you need to be reasonably fit but hay, it gives you old fellas a good reason to keep in shape!
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Posted By: Wind Up
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 12:17pm
| Agreed Jimmy Nail |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 8:27pm
old buggers well you will keep  oh old so thats like people over 50 mate phew I thought I was in that category  ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 10:13pm
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Stand up all the way. Bugger putting a chair in a 16 foot stabi anyway -so very biased.
However, have fished 130 and 37 from a chair -was horrible! May be ok for older, disabled people, ...or perhaps on very big fish with unfit angler. And I aint no fitness finatic.
Love stand up on 24, and can be done quite easy on 37 with right rod and good gimble set up.
Calm water always helps as I don't like fishing in rough anyway. Can do standup solo and driven boat as well easily on 24kg... set up, preparation and staying calm helps.
Would be same for spin gear I suppose Steve, may be bit less capacity... so just keep got keep it slick. And a chair aint going to give you any more time than stand up -done right.
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2011 at 7:42pm
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well the last of the gears have arrived and set up to play silly buggers, the boat is now decked out with spin gear and Jig rods, was the best way to get a spin rod with a lot of grunt, done a heap of stand up fishing over the years but this will add a bit of excitement to the game for me, cant wait to get it on. What has or is a bonus is the ability to be able to cast baits to sighted fish again another bit of excitement. roll on the good water bait and birds ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: TM.
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2011 at 8:07pm
| stand up is great for most stripies and the angler doesnt have to worry about what the boat is doing and can move about freely following the fish.......but its great to have that chair option available for a big blue or raising a dead fish of reasonalble size.....I have also foul hooked a couple of stripeys in the back and not being able to lift their head really changes the playing field......very much like rasing a dead fish but it wants to swim away making it that much harder......so in my opinion have both options if possible |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2011 at 9:05pm
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certainly wont be getting rid of the chair, the bonus of having one bolt through the keel and just 4 nuts to move it ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2011 at 9:27pm
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Stand-up for us - fish 15-37. 15s are really sweet - got a dead fish on a single speed 24 kg that took 4 1/2 hours was NOT fun - I was buggered - 2 hours on about 18 kg! ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: C A
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 8:05am
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what spin reels are you using? ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 10:37am
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All Fin-nor mate, they do the job nicely. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 10:39am
Why the change from using trolling reels? ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 10:44am
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no lugs Roy when I got that first fish the harness got in the way so now a small gimble on the left leg is where its at, why the change well try it mate what a blast and who dares wins ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 10:58am
I landed a 30 kg wahoo in Raro with just a gimble and that F###ed me!!
An old bugga like me needs all the help I can get!  ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: camdog
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 6:46pm
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standup all the way, 137kg sword in 20min, easy as ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Brady Rowe
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 8:44pm
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Easy as that boom! got em, hope you didnt have the harness on after 20min
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 9:24pm
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yes it is nice to get a quick fish like that Cam, my longest stand up from memory was 2hr 40min on a stripey hooked in the back/dorsal, the conditions were huge and I was in a run about, fish took us many miles, best fight ever for me anyway, and it swam away happy as but for a huge slash along the top of the back, did it live, who knows but it stood a better chance than on the deck. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: camdog
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 10:03pm
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been on a good stripy for over an hour and that was sweet and i got my black in 40min no worrys, just takes a lil balance and technique ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 7:43am
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Shortest - 10 minutes on 15 kg - flat calm. 15 minutes on braid for another and most 30-40 minutes. But..biggest stripy took 90 minutes and a dead one 4 1/2 hours of pain. Lost a tuna after 2 hours on about 20 kg drag - had bruises on thigh to match the dimples on a BM harness! ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: A C
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 5:21pm
You can't beat stand up when it's nice and flat Steve, any weight gear and 99% of the fish we get here - and you can't beat sitting down in a really sloppy sea even on 8 & 10kg gear
it saves breaking your toe as you slip over on a big roll when the deck's awash  ------------- Aye-Aye cloth eyes. |