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Topic: Casting technique max weights
Posted By: marx
Subject: Casting technique max weights
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 4:34pm
Just wondering what peoples casting techniques are in terms of how you hold the rod.

Do you cast with the guides facing forward so that when you cast the weight of the lure causes your rod to bend backwards? the way its generally not supposed to bend.

Been using this technique and its by far the best way to get power, accuracy and have your knot go smoothly through the guides but I only picked it up seeing some photos of the carpenter boys doing it. Are most rods happy doing this or is it something you can only expect from high end rods?

Making some lures that will be close to maxing my pencil instrument, don't want to break it.


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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 11:27pm
Bro you have lost me? Confused

Blanks deflect scary amounts when casting, Maybe Nev could explain the finer points but I am sure there is no worry about the blank bending "backwards". I know the video isn't a spinning setup but it shows in slow mo the deflection of the blank and how you really need to punch out with your leading hand to gain power = distance... 

The side flick kinda cast wouldn't give you the distance you want...But yeah I am still a little lost in translationLOL What weight you casting? 130g with your 150g PI?






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Posted By: MarkE
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 11:49pm
Youve lost me also....Is there any other way to cast a spin setup?


Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 9:24am
Originally posted by MarkE MarkE wrote:

Youve lost me also....Is there any other way to cast a spin setup?


Obviously not Embarrassed Maybe I should have asked the question quietly to some mates LOL

Yeh Sam the side flick thing was what I grew up with, only been sport fishing and learning from experienced fisherman for 3 years....... so some of the real basics I can can be unsure of unless I ask.


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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 9:39am
Originally posted by marx marx wrote:

Originally posted by MarkE MarkE wrote:

Youve lost me also....Is there any other way to cast a spin setup?


Obviously not Embarrassed Maybe I should have asked the question quietly to some mates LOL

Yeh Sam the side flick thing was what I grew up with, only been sport fishing and learning from experienced fisherman for just over two years....... so some of the real basics I can can be unsure of unless I ask.

Who cares bro?

Having and practicing different casting styles is a handy skill to have/acquire...The overhead "thump" is what you need to have those lures of yours sailing towards the horizon, Don't let your bait/popper touch the water or rest in the water whilst starting your cast, the drag can be too much. Have seen and experienced this whilst surfcasting...Wade out, start the cast, the sinker dips in the water and the rod tip snaps Embarrassed 

How are the lures coming along? 


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Posted By: dirtyharry
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 9:43am
I think I know what you're getting at Marx, re:spin rod, when you finish the cast the guides are underside, ie right side of the rod, then when you start the cast the guides are facing up thus the rod is bend against its' natural curve, ie breaking its back?
I wouldn't want to be in a rocking boat with someone throwing a popper around using the pendulum cast tho, could end up with some interesting and unique facial peircings Big smile


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Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 9:56am
Originally posted by ReelAppealLures ReelAppealLures wrote:

Originally posted by marx marx wrote:

Originally posted by MarkE MarkE wrote:

Youve lost me also....Is there any other way to cast a spin setup?


Obviously not Embarrassed Maybe I should have asked the question quietly to some mates LOL

Yeh Sam the side flick thing was what I grew up with, only been sport fishing and learning from experienced fisherman for just over two years....... so some of the real basics I can can be unsure of unless I ask.

Who cares bro?

Having and practicing different casting styles is a handy skill to have/acquire...The overhead "thump" is what you need to have those lures of yours sailing towards the horizon, Don't let your bait/popper touch the water or rest in the water whilst starting your cast, the drag can be too much. Have seen and experienced this whilst surfcasting...Wade out, start the cast, the sinker dips in the water and the rod tip snaps Embarrassed 

How are the lures coming along? 


Sweet bro cheers for the tips, have definitely found the technique I was talking about before a lot more comfortable.

Dam its been a crazy week getting those lures sorted. My bigger size is 225mm and I've made two. Still have to paint them but at the moment they are 121g so should be very close to 130g once painted. Stoked with how they swim naked and they normally get better once they have a smooth finish! Hopefully have them painted and clear coated by tomorrow night, they need to cure by Monday!

Also done another two 180mm, I've finished one and its 81g.










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Posted By: Aaron32987
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 11:01am
How much will they be, Marx? Cheaper than a Carpenter? LOL


Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 12:11pm
I tend to hold the rod behind me over my shoulder, rock the lure forward toward me and then when it swings backwards, try to time my forward cast so I'm hitting it as the lure reaches the top of it's swing. Kinda like a mini pendulum but with out the side swing aspect of it. Can punch it far enough to give the popper plenty of skittle time in the water.

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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 1:22pm
Originally posted by marx marx wrote:

 
Obviously not Embarrassed Maybe I should have asked the question quietly to some mates LOL



get off the computer Bro!!.. and make more of those LuresLOL Wink


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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 5:20pm
If you have a spare hour free one day...go down to your local park/grass area and have a practise....I did that with 4 different rods and my spheros with pe8 varivas .....I used a 5 oz torpedo sinker...which i know is not the same as a stick bait or a popper.....I used an 8 foot 3 rod and some 7 foot rods...You might get some funny looks but results might interest you.....A 8 foot 3 rod should cast further than a 7 foot 3 right? well they were about the same for me= 8 foot 3 rocky rod and 7 foot 3 15-24 jelly tip(much stiffer tip)....try a few things...you might find something and no harm is done on dry land.
p.s nice stix by the way.


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Posted By: Bunzo
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2011 at 7:42pm
Here is a Nomad Video on 'How to cast a Spin Rod' with Damon.  
http://www.nomadtackle.com/nsatackle_riggingvid_howtocast.htm -
 
http://www.nomadtackle.com/nsatackle_riggingvid_howtocast.htm

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