Inception & Chopper
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Popper and Topwater Fishing
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Printed Date: 05 Jun 2026 at 4:06pm
Topic: Inception & Chopper
Posted By: marx
Subject: Inception & Chopper
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 5:21pm
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Haven't posted any lure builds lately but with my latest batch in the drying cupboard I can introduce Marx: Inception  I had originally named them concept but someone on 360T has already claimed it. I'm open to name suggestions, not completely sold on inception.... the other name had was rush All those name have been chosen to suit these latest lures. I’ve developed what I believe is a new concept for stickbaits (happy to be told otherwise if its been done before) You'll see in the photos a hole in the top of their head and holes on the side. When lure is worked water flows into top of head pushing air bubbles out through side holes. When lure surfaces on pause the water drains out through side holes and then repeat!  So basically the designs effect is a stick bait with a quick and wide reaching action and a bubble trail that comes from inside the lure and out through the gill plate area mimicking distressed escaping baitfish. I’ve made some variations in the lures but they are all 180mm and around 70g of weight. I'll add some video of them in action soon but for now they are still drying      Unfortunately what I don’t have the painting skill to match my imagination. I was hoping to really blend in the reflective tape but you can still see the sides. I was going to do scale patterns as well but ran out of patience. Still I’m happy with the result. Haven’t given them a swim since doing so bare but if the paint and clear coat hasn’t drastically altered the action I’ll have to sheepishly self appreciate and say I’ve made some bloody good lures. Okay chopper is a lure I made about 2months ago, its almost centre weighted and has a mouth. Caught a rat king on it when fishing last. I've just re-cleared it but didn't fix it up, hadn't taken photos before using it.  I've put UV coating on all the eyes for extra effect. Can't wait to give them some action ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
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Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 5:23pm
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I've just joined 360T and made a lengthy into explaining my method and lures I've built. I copy and pasted a bit from that thread. http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f87/intro-s-21149/#post229330 ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 5:33pm
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good stuff bro looking the goods ------------- http://www.facebook.com/hauraki.hillbillys |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 5:44pm
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Cool lures what about Bullhead for a name.. |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 5:52pm
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Bullrush?......... oh no thats been banned
------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 6:36pm
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Very clever Marx....well done on doing something different. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Fish Pimp
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 7:06pm
''Head Rush''  Keep up the good work Marx.
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 7:09pm
Purple headed warrior
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Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 7:12pm
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Cheers boys told myself not to bother posting lure builds until the lures have caught fish...... thats when you know they work. But I've put a lot into these and I'm totally stoked how they have turned out. Had to share. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 7:21pm
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So this is the product of your being locked in the lab and overdosing on all dose fumes. Originarly bro! Conceptualizations from Be Yon Der. Can't wait to see them swimming. Cheur. Not pretty but fully Fuu Nahhh! keep pushing that envelope.
------------- 6th place in the inaugural Te Kauwhata Regionals paddle crab division |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 7:21pm
purple headed custard chucker you make a dam fine lure mate, keep up the good work, some talented buggers on this site ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: Aaron32987
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 7:30pm
my exact thoughts, very nice work marx! |
Blue Asparagus wrote:Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 9:33pm
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very nice job. We certainly have some talented lure builders out there. ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 11:10pm
This is what I have been waiting for... Finally Marx  Too much dude, the baits look the goods and knowing your style will work too. I see you have figured out the physics side with your bait's shape. Still need to do some final testing on my bait's, when done I will swap you one. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 4:58am
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Look out Japs the boys are on ya tail.
Love ya work  ------------- Live Bait , the Lance Armstrong of catching KINGFISH |
Posted By: C A
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 7:45am
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Those look slick as, good to see so many good lures coming off this website ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 8:51am
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Man thats clever, mad skills
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Posted By: YeeHaa
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 11:09am
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looks very cool mate~! waiting for your youtube clips
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Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 11:43am
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Swam them this morning bro and editing video now. These baits are insane and sure to please! ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 12:19pm
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Here it is boys! Don't hit your head on the screen because you want to eat it This the first of four, hopefully have the rest done today. Lighting is a little difficult but you should pick it up okay, let me know if you think its worthwhile getting some better footage. I'm sticking to the name Inception and this is Jack Mac. Best to watch on full screen mode, to do that go to link instead of watching embedded video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YNTP9Ct-7U ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: YeeHaa
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 12:25pm
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now we are talking boy...i like this one
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Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 12:26pm
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Think its possible to get even more out of them. Considering I've only got 10m of line out and each lure has its own subtle differences and respond better to different rod speeds. So they could perform even better once I've refined my technique. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 12:47pm
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Sweeeeet Looks good Mark, swims a lot cleaner than what I though it would...It will catch fish. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 1:05pm
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Cheers for the kind words guys. Its not often I exceed my own expectations but these baits certainly have  ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: treedoc
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 1:26pm
| WOW. They look awsome bro, that action is sweet! |
Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 1:57pm
yes fish catcher indeed
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Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 2:31pm
Yeh mate, thought you'd like this one. When you were explaining to me why you didn't like the last lot I knew exactly what you meant and I totally agree.
Cheers Sam did you think that because of the friction created by the holes in the head? My theory is that friction on the head is a good thing so the water grabs onto it. The head of the lure is always going to travel as smoothly as your rod movement. As for the tail I reckon no friction is a must if you want the back to slide around loosely. Just a theory though. Hope to be field testing around Tutukaka sometime shortly after Aug 6th. Might have to cheat and anchor up, then burley something chronic to bring the few kings that are around closer to me. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 3:06pm
Swims really good , really impressed
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Posted By: Tinfish
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 3:07pm
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They look sweet marx
Be very interesting to see if putting hooks on them kills a bit of that lovelly wiggle.
Cant wait to see some more testing footage. ------------- Stand up to be seen, speak up to be heard. BUT shut up to be appreciated. |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 3:24pm
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What you see is the lure swimming completely rigged mate. 2/0 Owners (the chunky ones) and 200lb Varivas split. Stickbaits won't even swim without the hooks, especially the belly hook as it provides the balance and some resistance needed to stop the lure spinning. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 3:26pm
You are not wrong brother! spilt 3 litres of two-way thinner in the shed the other day ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: Tinfish
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 3:39pm
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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 11:49pm
The holes would more than likely create a vacuum...The tail follows the head, you have created a fulcrum point in the tail by adding ballast... Will send you a PM so I don't put every one to sleep reading this lure jumbo  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 1:38pm
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Fair enough its definitely not for every one I just tried to take some more footage as the other lures are hard to pick up, only to find my camera has started s**ting itself, where the bottom quater of pixels are now dead and fuzzy.... its a canon SX10 too  Might not get any more vids up for a while but in terms of that latest bunch I think the jack mac has the most extreme action (and therefore prob most appealing to us humans ) and the action gets progressively tighter but only slightly through, Blue(pilchard), Squid(pink) and Black(Kahawai).Think I know why and in terms of field testing it should be a good thing. The lures we think have the best action might be different to what fish think and in this case I'd take the fishes opinion any day ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 1:40pm
No apology needed mate, can see how you made the assumption but in reality I just didn't want to get hooked Glad you like it and much appreciated ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |