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Topic: Out With The over 12's & Under 20's
Posted By: alanimal
Subject: Out With The over 12's & Under 20's
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 9:47am
Out With The over 12's & Under 20's.
Us guys that keep sabotaging the 12's thread can now hang out here.
 
As I was a 12" Fyran owner, I know how awesome the fishing is in these gems - but have recently upgraded to a larger cabin boat so i can reach out a little further and survive the rough seas.
 
Well, out of 8 weekends of owning the new boat "The Rodfather" I have been out 7 times. Only once returned with nothing. Soft bait only policy on the new boat too haha
 
Most trips have been around Rangi channel, Motutapu, Rakino and the Noises.
 
Here are some of the fruits of the new boat :)
 
 
 
 
 
This weekend - Kawau to try something different. Leaving 530am - if anyone is out that way let us know!!


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Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 10:35am
Good work mate and I hope this thread gathers momentum and gets as large as the under12s thread.

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Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 10:54am
well, I must say this:
 
It will take me years to catch the same amount of fish in the 6m that I did in the 12. The 12 was a machine!
 
It may take us years to have the same amount of posts in this thread as it is in the 12's.
 
All in all - its great to read what everyone else is up to - so lets get the stories running!
 
Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Clemmo
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 11:02am
Nice report Alanimal.  We also have similar hunting grounds- 'Rangi channel, Motutapu, Rakino and the Noises' but in the last few years we are dabbling a bit further out in 'the paddock' or 'out wide' as I believe it is called on here? (Still learning).  Pretty new to the whole ocean fishing scene having fresh water fishing roots back home but work-up fishing is where its at!
 
Anyway, back to the report! 
 
After poaching information from the 'Out with the twelves' thread (cheers guys) we decided that we would head out in the direction of the noises as these were producing quite well at the moment.  Our plan however was to attempt to find any remenence of the work-ups further out and fall back on the noises at slack tide if there was nothing occuring. 
 
With calm seas and next to no wind the trip out was quick and relatively unviolent, skimming over the waves in our buccaneer billfisher.  Just passed motatapu we saw a few gannets and a heap of dolphins but not much was occurring.  The dolphins were tiny! How many species of dolphins are out there? Are these just a pod of jouveniles maybe?
 
Anyways, we passed the noises and headed out into the abyss, passing heaps of isolated dolphins, maybe 3 or 4 in each group but no gannets Cry.  Finally we lost hope..there were no signs of any work ups in this area so we stopped and decided to have a cheeky drift anyway.  To our amazement this proved quite successful consiedering there was nothing showing on the sounder.  Below was the best of the catch, caught on a 6in Grub in 40m (photo taken the noises however):
 
 
Not huge but we were chuffed Thumbs Up
 
Probably caught around 6 or 7 30-40cm snaps out in the middle before heading back towards the noises.  On the way back the smaller budgies were working not far from the noises.  kahawai! And frickin heaps of them.  Every drop was either a 30cm snap or a horse kahawai.  Good fun/annoying.  The noises didn't really produce for us so we headed home on beautiful calm water.
 
Stopped by at a couple of the channel buoys to drop a few cheeky jigs.  No Kingies though.. When do they dissapear from the buoys generally?
 
Here is an early shot of the bin before we filled it completely Big smile
 
And as i have only just figured out how to upload pics properly here are a few of my favorites from the tiri area this summer:
 
 
 
 
 
Tight lines.
 
Clemo
 


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Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 11:31am
Awesome report Clemo!
 
Look forward to the reports to come! (oh also looking forward to Kawau trip this weekend )


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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 12:04pm
good on ya mate nice catchs there, did you guys get in the water with the orcas, truely amazing they are.

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Posted By: Clemmo
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 12:59pm
Unfortunately I did not have the masks on the boat and they were moving pretty quick.  I would love to get in the water with them.  The matriarch was pretty bloody intimidatingly big though.  Has anybody swam with them?  

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Posted By: livebait
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 1:02pm
Good one bro haven't been out for a month..heads going funnyOuch
 
 
Looking forward to the reports..


Posted By: supermodel
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 9:23pm
Execellent move with the new thread.
Went out yesterday trying to find bird action. Launched from Army Bay. Nothing happening between there & Little Barrier. Wind was up & down like a pair of hores drawers before glassing off totally early afternoon( after returning from out wide). Ended up pulling 4 good johnnies out of a regular spot round Motuora on livies. Didn't catch one decent size snap all day. Any intel on where the budgies & bait are would be good cause they sure arn't where I was & I covered a heap of water.


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Posted By: snellie
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 10:21pm
Yes we were out yesterday afternoon. Initially distracted by hundreds of birds between Motuihe and Waiheke- no gannets- caught 1 35cm snapper and 1 kahawai. Then on to Channel Island- calm as whales, dolphins and gannets sitting on teh water - got a dozen snaps to 50 cms- a cracker calm day and had expected bigger snaps as per Damos recent reports. Can't complain- great day


Posted By: Clemmo
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 10:54pm
What kind of rig did you use for the johnnies supermodel? And what size livies would you suggest?  Pretty keen to target them one session.Cheers

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Posted By: supermodel
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 6:40am

I just tie on about 1 metre of 50-60lb trace to the mainline via a swivel with a average size livebait hook. Clip an 8oz sinker to the swivel or whatever you need to hold against the tide. Might be obivious but anchor up don't drift, all youll do is get snagged all the time. Give the little livie a bit of body piecing thru the scruff & dispatch. Set him up just clear of the bottom, weed etc so he's in full vis, that will soon tell you if there are Johnies around. I even managed to recycle two of my livies though they wen't too happy about repeating the trauma, bugger being a baitfish man. Any little bait in the 15- 30cm works. If you want a big Johnie put a big livie on. Jack Macs' would be my favorite but whatever takes the sabiki will do. Johnies are not that fussy. Sorry can't divulge my spot as I was shown it by my regular crew but places like the end of Whangaparaoa Pen. back of Tiri, Motuora with a bit of structure on the bottom will hold them. What I do is if while anchored smelly bait fishing get a berley trail going on the surface to get some volinteers around for some piercing & send one down. Real easy, just stick the rod in the holder & wait. You'll know if one jumps on! Good luck & let me know how you get on.



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Posted By: Clemmo
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 10:06am
Excellent! Cheers mate.  I have heard of guys clipping the tails of livies making them easy for the Johnnies to get but im sure if they can get em naturally they should be able to get em with a line attached to em.  Awesome.  Lookforward to trying it out.

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Posted By: snapazapa
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 4:52pm
7am...2pm Sunday
Left HMB and headed towards the north side of Rangi,once out of the river the wind was almost westerly so changed course and headed to home bay area,very quiet there so up to the east side of rakino,christened dads rod with a 34 snapa caught on a screaming pilchard,headed round the top,nothing goin on,back down to rakino channel and fished around the top part of motutapu going down to admin bay,got a few tickles there with another 34 snap and a ky on a screamer again,headed down close to the north side of rangi and the water temp was hugely different to everywhere else,temps ranged from 13.4 to 14.3,at rangi it was 15.7!,got a big ky there and that was it,tough day really with the wind blowing a constant 18..22kts. 


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Posted By: long john
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 7:17pm
Originally posted by Clemmo Clemmo wrote:

Unfortunately I did not have the masks on the boat and they were moving pretty quick.  I would love to get in the water with them.  The matriarch was pretty bloody intimidatingly big though.  Has anybody swam with them?  

Prolly a patriarch if it was mucherer bigger than the others. Have run into them a couple of times in the water. They are gentle souls but, yes, very intimidating!!


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Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 8:10am
Left sandspit at 530am and dropped the lines in at Rabbit Island. No tickles so headed for Takatu Point - was rough as guts in the westerly gusts until we got around the corner to find a work up in the fishing reserve! Murphy is a mailto:[email protected] - [email protected] isnt he? so we sat 50m from the boundary and drifted a few times. Landed two snaps - a 35cm and 34cm by 8am, thought things were going to pick up but they went off the bite or were sick of the softbaits...
 
So decided to go over to Maori Rock, and on the way noticed some small dolphins leaping in the air within meters of Maori rock, so decided to go try Fairchild Reef - nothing there - carried on south to slater point. Noticed a small work up - had a few nibbles occaisonally - then another pod of larger dolphins decided to appear and spread word to the fish that we were after them - just so that they could eat our fish!!! flamin nora!!!
 
 
 
 Well, that is two weekends in a row where the fishing has been below average for us on Gulps (could be bad luck or dolphins) - so next weekend I am goin to get the straylining back in action (cant bloody wait)... till next time folks Tongue


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Posted By: gromph
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 9:10pm
Nice thread - will be posting once i get my 15 footer out next.


Posted By: rocko
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 9:50pm
nice!!!! 17ftr incl??LOL... how ever found tidy little 12ftr and 15hp  got me eye one once someone buys mine LOL

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Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 8:38am
sure is mate! get out there and share the stories!
 
Im heading out this coming sat - launch westhaven and maybe head out to the Aha's or may go in close. Weather is supposed to be sunny?? 
 
Putting the softbaits away this time - going to break my "no bait on board" policy and get the straylining happening!!
 
Report to come.
 
 


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Posted By: The cook
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 1:06pm
Like the idea for this thread. I know most of you are Auck based but cant hurt to have a Northland presence. Good to have a spot to write a quick report rather than start a new thread.
 
Got a 16ft ply runnabout we made ourselves, not everones cup of tea but we love it.
 
Went out last weekend from Whangaroa harbour, on the water by 6.45am & full live bait tank by 7.15am.
 
On our spot no long after, stunning morning without the forcast rain or wind. All looked promising. Heaps of bait turned up in our burley trail, blue koheru, usually a great sign for Kingi's.
 
3hrs later & y mate had lost 3 baits from under a baloon with no hook up & I hadn't even had a snif. Heaps of picker snappers & one med pannie in the bin. Time to move.
 
Tried several pins out the back of Stevies on the drift with livies & dead bait. Despite plenty of sign nothing.
 
Last resort, an hour at arrow rocks before getting my mate home for a long drive to Tarua.
Started dead slow and after half an hour were about to bail when my mate drops down a fresh livie & bang. Straight around the burley & goneAngry.
Another bait& hes straight on again, this time his knot pullsAngryOuchEmbarrassed.
Re-ie drop another bait & on again, two minutes later & a kingi of around 15kg under the boat. Talk about green, took another 10min to actually gaff it, got quiet wet in the processLOL.
 
Through all of this my 2 livies not even sniffed, still struggling to work it out. He was running 100lb trace to my 60lb, presentation the same, bait the same. I kept changing mine to make sure they were fresh etc... Only thing I cant think of was that his trace to the swivel was about 1/2m longer than mine. Go figure.
 
While he was dealing to the kingi I cast out a butterflied mackeral leaving it in freespool so it could slowwly drift to the bottom. Kind of forgot about it while messing about with my livies. Heard a whurring noise, looked at my snapper real to see it hosing out line. Grabed it quick & in gear, thankfully no birds nest. Ended up with a nice 7kg snap.
Funny how quick a c**p day can turn around


Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 1:10pm
Nice boat mate - perfect fishing platform! Welcome to the thread - bring on the reports!
I look forward to the day I get back up Whangaroa Harbour - have enjoyed many trips up there in the old mans boat in my youth. Climbed dukes nose once or twice to spot the workups out the harbour!

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Posted By: skidder
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 12:25pm
Hey Alanimal dont give up completely on the SB's. Out yesterday in my 4.9m RIB and Zman still working well in under 6m water. Avoiding smelly bait for as long as possible.

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Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 12:35pm
Yes, last night I was about to get the bait rods ready, then I looked over to the Stradic C14/Veritas rod and it had that neglected look on it - she almost dared me to put the baitunner/beastmaster setup on the boat - you know that look of "if you do it, you will regret it".
Carefully, I stopped and thought about what I was doing - its was almost like I was opting to date the whale over the supermodel - WHAT WAS I thinking!
 
Softbait rods are on the boat :)


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Posted By: Shark-Bait
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 8:30pm
Cool, a new thread for my boat size, sweeeeeeeeeet.
15FT Tin
Yep out today & the Zman doing the damage again all right.
Half dozen around 350 400 at Sunday Rock so put them back then off to Scullies for a smelly bait fish, what a waste of time that was.
1 small KY so straight out under a balloon, 5 min later it got smashed, 30 sec later all over, Kingy 1 me none.
With the bearly out all i could get was small snaps & i mean small, so flagged that after a couple of hours & straight back to the Zman, straight into the fish, got my 9 snaps to 60cm in no time.
A Pod of Dolphins came for a look, made my day, flat as on the way home, shaw beats working.
My little Tub.
Wink


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Posted By: Brimel
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 8:37pm
Niiiiice, heading out in the 18ft tomorrow, any particular flavour of Z Man working?


Posted By: Shark-Bait
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 9:30pm
Zman Smokey Shad for me.
Wink


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Posted By: Capnnod
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 7:53am
15 nice snaps at the Noises yesterday biggest on soft bait rest on pillys and squid

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Posted By: skidder
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 2:36pm
Nice setup Sharkbait...glad to hear of a good trip out. Doesnt seem to matter what colour Zman at the momemt Brimal. I used the light blue and goldie colours and both worked good.

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Posted By: jock
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 3:15pm
Went out solo on Friday10:00 am from Westhaven (in Huntsman Dorado 115hp yammie).and headed down to gardners gap area where my old neighbour had cleaned up on Thursday in 7 mtrs. Boys near me in biggish stabi and their mate in a wee tiiny were doing ok for a while but woe is me. I caught SFA. Tried a couple of spots around Rangi but other than a couple of barely 32cms snaps which went back I wasn't performing at all. BUT !! was a great day to be on water. Next time, eh?


Posted By: Still-Got-it
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 3:54pm
Originally posted by Shark-Bait Shark-Bait wrote:

Cool, a new thread for my boat size, sweeeeeeeeeet.
15FT Tin
Yep out today & the Zman doing the damage again all right.
Half dozen around 350 400 at Sunday Rock so put them back then off to Scullies for a smelly bait fish, what a waste of time that was.
1 small KY so straight out under a balloon, 5 min later it got smashed, 30 sec later all over, Kingy 1 me none.
With the bearly out all i could get was small snaps & i mean small, so flagged that after a couple of hours & straight back to the Zman, straight into the fish, got my 9 snaps to 60cm in no time.
A Pod of Dolphins came for a look, made my day, flat as on the way home, shaw beats working.
My little Tub.
Wink


Nice one! and btw where is Sunday Rock?


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Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 8:54pm
Originally posted by Still-Got-it Still-Got-it wrote:

Nice one! and btw where is Sunday Rock?
Between Ponui and Waiheke islands.


Posted By: Shark-Bait
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 9:19pm
Yep thats it, always holds fish on the outgoing.

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Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 12:43pm
popped out yesterday to Noises, 2x horse ky and 2x 32-34cm snapper - was very slow and not much activity with the wind direction not in favour. Had a 30 odd cm squid munching away on my Chart Neon Pepper crazy leg bait - was rather entertaining!   Allot of boats out but didnt see many pulling in the goods.
Dropped the long line  for 30 mins to find both buoys ended up within 5m of each other - nothing on the hooks but 1 trace missing and a bit of a mess to untangle - probably a dirty ray or shark.
 
Did anyone else do any good yesterday?


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Posted By: BuzzyBee
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 6:14pm
 mate of ours did back of rangi, rakino noises for nothing at all,  mof guys said not many fish came in yesterday at their check points either.


Posted By: Michael35338
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 7:30pm
Went out today at 10am with my friend and his 7 year old son for his sons  first fishing trip...
Fished coastguard bay on the western side of rangi  on the outgoing tide...
Salmon burley and pillies... we kept 8 over the 3 hours fishing and threw back at least 20. mj


Posted By: snapazapa
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 8:19pm
6.15am...1pm,Fantail bay area,
Left akld at 3am and headed for fantail bay for a fish,with these easterly winds it should be sheltered,got there and the wind was a sou-east but not a problem,havent launched there for a while so backed out with the motor slightly raised, went to far to the right and"bang""Doh!",my prop hit a rockAngry,have to get a new one now.
Headed round to my favorite possy and dropped a new penney c/legs and hooked up straight away,one for the bin,the next couple of hours was a good bite,using catch squid,bleeding pille,screamin pille,and a few others,as well as gulps,couldnt miss,the only trouble i had was balancing the weight with the drift which was pretty fast at times so i could stay on the bottom,the winds coming down off the mountain was25/30 knot gust at times but the water was quite calm,a few 12s were fishing around there as well,looked like they were doing ok.
Must have caught a couple of dozen but only kept 5,56,2x46,2x36,gave one to a mate on the way home,fish were in very good condition,water temp was about 15.2....
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Posted By: markallan
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 12:19am
Good stuff Ken! Nothing like a fresh feed of snaps. 3am start on the other hand... hahah


Posted By: The cook
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 8:52am

Hit Whanagaroa again on Saturday, stunning morning at the leasurly hour of 9am.

Still heaps of bait in the harbour, filled the livie tank in 20min.
 
That was about the end of the excitment for the day. Tried drifts all over the place. Anchored at the Frenchmans for a while & got a plague of Mice Kingis.
 
Ended up at the entrance of the harvour where it usually fishes well. Mac got a big Johnny (at least 2kg) & I got one snap of about 50cm. Wind got up around 2.30 & we kept dragging. Pain as they had just come on the bite.
 
Least we didn't get skunked, thought it was going to happen for the 1st time in 18months


Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 9:02am
Nice one Cook,
Skunked? Thats something I normally do to my fishing mates if I had a curry the night before.  
 
Northland has a different meaning?


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Posted By: The cook
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 1:03pm

Skunked; amongst my group of mates means nothing to take home.

Couple of them smell like skunks now yah mention it


Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 1:50pm
agh!!! see us jaffas call that a down trou!

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Posted By: skidder
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 2:00pm
Alanimal.........older jaffas like me know of the "skunked" term. Westie's use it mainly Wink

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Posted By: sbeehre
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 4:58pm
Well we eventually got out for a fish on Sunday after initially launching and finding the crank battery had died! so we had to drive back to Hamilton from Raglan and buy a new battery then head out again! We launched from Manu bay and headed around the points towards Ruapuke and managed to get two John Dory and 4 Gurnard in a few hours. I was pretty stoked to get the John Dory in so close and in only 13m of water Smile






Posted By: Gottafew
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 5:58pm
Lucky buggerShockedI have never caught a JD on that coast...onya

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Posted By: sbeehre
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 7:24am
thanks mate... im going to head out there next time and see if i can get some more! i we got then on half pillies on dropper rigs. I thought i might have caught one of a soft baits but only caught Gurnard on the softies.


Posted By: back2black
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 2:49pm
Wow a under 12's! and a over 12's under 20's thread....does this mean we will see a over 20's thread for the big boys!Wink

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Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 2:51pm
Well, possibly, I have only just upgraded from a 12 footer to a 20 footer - so your gonna have to wait until my next upgrade! haha

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Posted By: Still-Got-it
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 4:05pm
What does everyone use for ground burley? I had a boat drive past the other day and off load some old KFC which they suggested using....Worked real real well....but they got the KFC off someone who worked at a store and I dont know anyone who works at KFC!!!!
Anything else around the home you can use? Spaghetti? dog food?


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Posted By: ponty
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 5:25pm
I have bought a blender and starting to blend up the fish left overs, seems a waste to throw them away. Got tubes from plastic shop which i freeze them in so fits in my burley holder. Still getting my head around how to easily blend it (work in progress) 


Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 5:29pm
@ ponty, keep an eye on trademe, they often have burley mincers in the fishing section


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Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2011 at 9:37am
I have started making my own berley - and it is really easy and it works a treat. In fact last weekend I had kingy's swimming in and around the berley pot that was only 1m below the surface.
 
Ingredients are as follows:
 
  • 500ml fish oil or canola if you cant get fish oil
  • 3 (at least) cans of 600g Ocean Fish Chef cat food or similar
  • 1kg of wheatmeal (Binn Inn)
  • 1kg chicken feed (Binn Inn)
  • 2-4kg of salmon pellets (any fish shop)
  • 1 tub of glitter ($2 shop)
  • Zip Lock Bags
  • (optional) leftover fish guts and trimmings
The Messy Process:
  1. Combine all the dry ingredients into a large bucket - pref with a lid as you can shake it about to stir it about
  2. Add the glitter to the Oil, then mix cat food and any leftover scraps into another bucket. Add water as required.
  3. Mix the wet and dry ingredients together - I use my hands as the feeling and the smell is orgasmic...
  4. Put the contents into zip lock bags - shape well before freezing
This should make a few days supply :)
 


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Posted By: BuzzyBee
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2011 at 3:42pm

also try the gourmet sardine cat food.. it stinks something cronik but the cats seem to love it!



Posted By: The cook
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 9:00am
Woke to a stunning morning on Saturday, by the time I 'd organised a crew it was blowwing 20knt NW.
 
Launched from Te Ngarere & headed up towards the Mahinepua penisula. My brother inlaw got soaked as we crossed from te end of the peninsula past little flat & out to big flat. Sat in the lee of the island & it was quite pleasant. Huge chop rolling past out the end of big flat but we were sweet.
 
Took a while for the burly to work but 40min later & it was all on. Kept 10 fish between 2 & 5kg in 2  & 1/2 hrs. Boat on the trailer by 2.30pm just as the rain turned up.
 
Surprise of the day was my brother inlaw outfishing us on softbait. 37m, at anchor with a 3/4 oz jig head. Thought he had no chance, but after a slow start just as he was about to change to smelly stuff 3 good fish in a row. The 5kg number pulled a heap of string to.
 
Sorry no photo's to wet to take the camera out


Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 9:03am
nice work TC. Sounds like you need to enter some of the fishing photo comps to get a waterproof camera! 

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Posted By: gromph
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2011 at 7:42pm
Sunday 10/07 - 2.30 - 5pm
Well first post for this thread as an opportunity arose with my 5 year old daughter nagging me on Saturday to take her fishing!
With the forecast as it was thought it was a no goer but didn't seem to windy so thought why not, may not get an assist on the pass come up like that again for a whileWink Took my friend and his son out as well.

On leaving the estuary we spotted some birds and on following the general direction found a smallish work-up. On drifting through (was a quick drift) my daughter hooks up straight away, which was fun and gave her a bit of a work outLOL
The result:


Had another drift but concluded there was no snapper below and the kahawai were moving quite fast anyway so decided to go in closer next to the cliffs where we were out of the wind. On the way had a quick drift and picked up a pannie for the table.
We then anchored up and put the berley down but just got throw backs apart from this unusual fish my mate's son caught - any ideas?


Sun started to go down and was getting cold so headed back but on the way stopped for a quick drift over some sign, which resulted in 2 more snapper for the table - the largest (40) pulled some string for it's sizeBig smile

All in all a nice short trip and was actually calmer than most days i go out in the summer.....



Posted By: tab47
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2011 at 8:06pm
hey mate thats a goat fish id say from the picture. always seem them spearfishing they sit on the bottom in schools lazy buggers by all account and dont mind divers at all


Posted By: gromph
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2011 at 9:15pm
Do they taste any good?


Posted By: tab47
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2011 at 9:35pm
To be honest i've never tried eating one, but the dive planet site says they are "suprisingly tasty" if that helps


Posted By: Shark-Bait
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 11:53am
Yup, Goat Fish alright & yes they just lounge around on the bottom.
If you get a nice size one the arent bad eating, never caught one on a rod before but speared a few up north.
Fresh on the BBQ with some butter, salt n pepper they are yum.
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Posted By: Deer Hunter
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2011 at 9:23pm
I brought a $150 mulcher from bunnings. It eats whole kawhai, mullet, yellowtail, duck breasts, kina and mussels. I made 30ltrs on Tuesday in half an hour. Works a treat with a bit of modifying.


Posted By: ponty
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2011 at 10:24pm
Whats this modifying? i will look at it on the weekend my blender didn't really work sounds like you doing alot better.


Posted By: Jimm
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2011 at 3:21pm
mates is it just me or the metservice has a rougher forecast for auckland than what is on swellmap and windguru Confused




Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2011 at 3:23pm
I never did trust any weatherman


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Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2011 at 3:38pm
Mate, metservice ALWAYS has a far rougher forecast than any other site

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Posted By: Darwin
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2011 at 5:20pm
Great to see a forum for my boat size. Stuck between work and bad weather lately, so with the days closing in early, I spent a bit of time on the drawing board. 
We spend quite a few weekends away on our little tinnie and there have been quite a few changes made to the stock boat to make it a bit more comfortable for the Admiral. I have remained staunch throughout though that I am not making any mods that compromise the fishability. There is a fairly long list of things that have been "tweaked" on Darwin: Clears and a backdrop to fully enclose the hard top when required, an extension for the sleeping platform that folds out and clips in to make 2.05m bed base, hot and cold running water with a califont, shower and sink and a 75l fresh water tank underfloor (I know, I know), 3 piece table/bed infill which fits either in the cabin or in the cockpit, but one thing that has been a bug bear for us on the little Surtees has been the cooking facilities. 
I have come up with the following, and with a "small" investment and the expert welding skills of Nigel at Everyman, we're sorted. Baitboard/cooker! Perfect! drops in for weekend missions, holds all the cooking gear in a locker underneath, has gas plumbed in up the stem, no need to f**% around with portable BBQs any more.


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Date Posted: 17 Jul 2011 at 5:28pm


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Posted By: Jimm
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2011 at 5:23pm
launched out of kawakawa bay on sunday around 1pm.  weather conditions pretty calm  whole lot of thick thick fog on the water which brought visibility right down to less than 500m.  we headed out to skullys reef and into the ruthe passage and looked for sign of which there was none so we moved further into the pakatoa island foul and after seeing a huge column of fish in 16m of water we stopped and put the anchor/berley down, fished for a bit but got nothing but goldfish.

moved on again out to kauri point in 35m and did the same with the same results..... we was using softbaits, strayline and ledgers with mullet/squid/pillies but not much joy.  it was already 3pm the fog was still thick as but we felt we needed to moe so we headed back down to shag rock on the eastern side and anchored up in 12m just outside of the where the current was flowing.  constant stream of goldfish coming on board and did get a few keepers on the strayline both squid and pillies whole.  came back down to skullys again at sundown around 4:45pm and got a few more and by this time the fog had cleared.  fish went off the bite around 5:15 so we headed home, ended up with 8 keepers to 35cm between 3 of us so pretty slow day overall but happy we brought home a feed. 

oh we did catch this really pretty fish off kauri point...... bright bright pink with a black spot in the middle did get a photo on my phone will try to upload it later, any ideas on what it was?


Posted By: tones
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2011 at 8:31pm
Mint day out weather wise today. Fished outside of Kawau straylining for 4 snaps around 40cm and 5 med kahawai.

As the tide dropped started to pick up those nasty little rock cod.

 Gave up on that spot and headed in towards Challenger reef on the bottom end of Kawau. Pulled up close to our limit with more round 40 to 50 cm nout really big and very soft on the bite all in all a good feed or two!

Back just in time to make it a wet job getting the boat back in and not very bloody warm either!


Posted By: snellie
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2011 at 9:43pm
Well done tones out there today and good fish you got.


Posted By: MJ
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2011 at 6:44am
Sunday we managed 5 snap and a decent kahawai from 12 to 3pm between Rakino and Noises. My mate fished the same area an hour later and cleaned up with 16 snaps. Apparently the bite came on strongly around 4pm. Anyone else experience that?


Posted By: Jimm
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2011 at 4:53pm
yup they were biting from around 4pm and then stopped around 5pm on sunday


Posted By: simsim
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2011 at 6:28pm
MJ. We got a couple of snapper and a KY around 11am on Sunday at Woody Bay then went quiet. Had to come in at 2pm so missed the later bite. Were you and your mate using SB or smellies?


Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2011 at 10:36am
Yep gotta agree the metservice definatley plays a little harder than swell map.....After having a week off work to spend with my kids, and having a shocker of a cold, spotted a good gap for Kawhia Sat arvo, myself, the good lady and a workmate (oh and the Ramco 18 footer...) headed out. Got to the ramp, two others out and started to doubt myself. Maybe 10 knots of wind in the harbour. Committed anyways, and with the boat finally back on the water after too long off it headed out to the bar. Flattest ive ever seen it, maybe 1/4 meter swell, still 10 knots....all good. I couldnt believe only two trailers in the carpark.....
 
15 - 20 mins later we get to Aotea 35m mark, baits down BOOM! What followed was 2 hours of non stop fishing. Getting a nice line off snaps, plenty of gurnard, ample kahawai and a few pesky sharks and cuda. A great day out had by all and a real good feed for all. Smoker got a thrashing....pity its no Bradley eh Unhappy but biiiigBig smile for us all. Kids, us and all the family and neighbours fed.....thats what its aboutWink I love winter fishing, and better still when you get smiles like this, shes happy, Im happyWink


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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2011 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by Jimm Jimm wrote:

launched out of kawakawa bay on sunday around 1pm.  weather conditions pretty calm  whole lot of thick thick fog on the water which brought visibility right down to less than 500m.  we headed out to skullys reef and into the ruthe passage and looked for sign of which there was none so we moved further into the pakatoa island foul and after seeing a huge column of fish in 16m of water we stopped and put the anchor/berley down, fished for a bit but got nothing but goldfish.

moved on again out to kauri point in 35m and did the same with the same results..... we was using softbaits, strayline and ledgers with mullet/squid/pillies but not much joy.  it was already 3pm the fog was still thick as but we felt we needed to moe so we headed back down to shag rock on the eastern side and anchored up in 12m just outside of the where the current was flowing.  constant stream of goldfish coming on board and did get a few keepers on the strayline both squid and pillies whole.  came back down to skullys again at sundown around 4:45pm and got a few more and by this time the fog had cleared.  fish went off the bite around 5:15 so we headed home, ended up with 8 keepers to 35cm between 3 of us so pretty slow day overall but happy we brought home a feed. 

oh we did catch this really pretty fish off kauri point...... bright bright pink with a black spot in the middle did get a photo on my phone will try to upload it later, any ideas on what it was?


http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/butterfly-perch_topic44347.html - check this post out  Jimm.





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Posted By: Seamower
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2011 at 1:09pm
Sweeeeeet!
Any of you fish with plactics on the west coast and if so, any suggestions? Me & my buddy got schooled on Saturday, 5 hours & not ONE bite at all Cry but yeah some others who knew what they were doing cleaned up Clap (they were fishing cut bait & heavy sinkers)...

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2011 at 1:17pm
Have never given plastics or softbaits a decent go really, something about smelly bait that keeps me going backConfused. Im sure I will, but yeah cut baits all the way for me...ive only been fishing for a year and a half so im sure Ill get round to it

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Posted By: The cook
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2011 at 1:42pm
Nice work, talk about a mint looking day.
 
Sunday out of Whangaroa was not so nice. Harbour was a thick brown & bait fish very elusive, particularly anoying as the old man had rigged some flash as bridle rigs for Kingis we didn't get to use.
Once outside there was a solid metre & a half of swell, comfortable enough as it was quite long.
 
Fishing was slow, fish were there but really soft on the bite, ended up with 4 in the bin, best about 50cm. Southerly picked up & showers started around 11am
 
In by 2pm, freezing or a##es off.


Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 9:10pm
Going to test out the new ramp at gulf harbor, may try tiri. Been a long couple of weeks of watching the boat sit their in the driveway, so time to get the beast out again! 0530 start - what better way to start the sat morn???

Anyone else poppin out?


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Posted By: Far Quirk
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 4:50am
Yep, but closer in, around Rangi

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Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 5:04am
Let us know how you go  - we are softbaiting it this time.


Posted By: JayDog
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 8:08am
Hi all. Not sure if this is the right place to go about with an intro, apologies in advance if it is the wrong place. I figured as I have just purchased my first boat, (a 14 ft Ramco with a 25hp) I had better go to the place where all that are in the know meet. Am on the shore and keen to meet up with others with similar boats. Thanks for an awesome site, had already learnt bucket loads of dos and don'ts.


Posted By: GingaMatt
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 11:11am
I have a 4.2m Centre console Mac, The only water thats seen latly is the rain!! LOL

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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 11:25am
Originally posted by GingaMatt GingaMatt wrote:

I have a 4.2m Centre console Mac, The only water thats seen latly is the rain!! LOL


I got no boat!


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Posted By: GingaMatt
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 3:31pm
Originally posted by JK JK wrote:

Originally posted by GingaMatt GingaMatt wrote:

I have a 4.2m Centre console Mac, The only water thats seen latly is the rain!! LOL


I got no boat!
Did you check out those Frewza's? - Boat, outboard and trailer $15k. Cheap mate..

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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 4:05pm
Nice avatar there dudeLOL The old days when we got out...


Posted By: snapazapa
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 5:31pm
Sunday 31/07...5am ...12.30pm
Left HMB and headed for the Noises/Maria area,seas calm, good forecast,life was goodTongue,it had been a couple of weeks since last out and i had a new solas prop to try out,noticed straight away i got up on the plane with a couple of revs less,once out of the river i gunned it up to 4800 and wow!,it sounded so smooth,way less vibrations,top speed had not changed but my cruising speed rpm was defiantly Dawn 200 odd revs,ClapThumbs Up,why didn't i get one of these a long time ago.
Once out to my chosen spot i cast out a catch bleeding pilly but no takers,sun had not quite got up and it was chilly to say the least,decided to head out to a bump i had found last summer a few ks north of the noises,dropping the piily again i hooked up straight away on a nice fish which i kept,(smallest kept for the day),Iwas using the 703 CTS rod (dads rod) but decided to put a new type of gulp s/b which Tony (yeehaa) had given me to try out...
Called Squid Vicious ,I thought the dangley bits would be hammered by the small fish and i wasn't wrong.
Decided to move out to the deep water (45m) and try my luck,was a good call as the fish were waiting,finding another quite sharp bump i marked it and headed back to drift over it,thats when squid v came into its own,no sooner i got it to the bottom and BAM,no biting just inhaling of the bait,for the next 2/4 hours i got some great hits on it ,hooking up instantly with fish really testing the certate,biggest was 58cm,but most were 45 to 55cm,had to bring them up slowly so as to let the smaller ones go.
Tony had also given me a spool of Nanofil,a new Berkley product,to try out ,so had it spooled on the FDstella and have to say i quite liked it,very sensitive,thin as,as it was only 10lb i was soft on it at first but after a while i started to crank up the drag,casts superbly,supposed to be able to handle more rubbing on rocks etc,but today it was a straight out bottom fish,reckon it would be good for wash fishing as the casting ability of it was very good,no need to get so close to the rocks,lots of dolphins around ,not really traveling but i think they may have just been feeding lightly around there because they did come back on several occasions.
After a massive drift i headed back to port,didn't realize how far i had drifted,took me 1/2 hour at planing speed just to get back to the noises,but no worries ,had plenty of fuel and time,great day,sunny weather,all goodThumbs Up
Kill shot (one less which i gave away)
 
The squid Vs i think would be awesome on a workup,I used some mustard jig heads on them,also used catch jig heads as well (they were just a tiny bit long,but the hook was in the place where you would want it).


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Posted By: The cook
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 10:23am

After a stunning hour of fishing out of Whangaroa on Saturday what else do ya do but go for another fish on Sunday.

 

Met a mate from work at mid day at headed to Te Ngare, on the water by 1pm & headed out to the Cavali’s via a couple of pins out in the middle the usually hold Terakihi.

Nothing but little snaps, with the tide not running the right way until around 3.30pm & the sea dead flat we did a bit of exploring North of the Cavs  in 70-80m. Lots of sign but nothing on the jig, mate got 1 nice snap of about 3.5kg.

 

Moved in to our normal spot & fish on the bite instantly, steady stream of fish in the 1-2kg range that then slowed right down. Realised that we needed more weight when a gannet dived on my bait, current was cranking with the largish tides.

Upped the weights to an oz & fish biting straight away, kept 8 as my mate is skint & keen as for plenty of fish. Big boys never turned up & once the sun set the sharks made a nuisance of themselves.

 

Stunning afternoon/evening on the water, back on the trailer by 7pm just as it started to get proper cold.



Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 11:14am
Sat 5:30am to Midday. Left Gulf harbour - new ramp with pontoons is brilliant!! Headed out the back of Tiri and drifted till the sun came up. Latched onto one decent sized red to have it bust off my SB, bit of yelling and abusing the nearest seagul but that happens! Next fish was a snap about 4 inches long. I think this little one managed to scare all the other fish away as no other bites happened - so we moved into the Tiri channel to find birds working all over the show. Dropped the lines a few times to only land one horse KY, wind came up so decided to call it a day.Confused
Was great to get out, in hindsight I wish I went out Sunday as the weather was so awesome - but unfortunately I had to put the inorganics out!!!!
Till next time!


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Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 11:21am
Originally posted by The cook The cook wrote:

 

 

 

 
Hey Cook, great minds think alike - is that a Mark5x next to the HDS5M?
I have the same setup. One thing I did was get the Lowrance EP-60R Fuel flow sensor unit so I can watch my fuel usage - fantasitc units eh!!!.            
 


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Posted By: The cook
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 8:04am
Hard case, yep exactly the same setups. Only had the HDS5m for 3months & loving it.
 


Posted By: GingaMatt
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2011 at 8:55am
Originally posted by Muppet Muppet wrote:

Nice avatar there dudeLOL The old days when we got out...
That was a very good morning mate, your right in saying 'when we got out' work to much these days.


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Posted By: Buzz.
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2011 at 3:01pm
Shot out his morning from Taka in the thundercat for a bit of a softbait. The conditions were as they had been predicted - absolutely perfect with no wind. Was on the water by 6.30 and slowly crawled over to rangi. I decided to try some spots that id got from leathal's fishing spot CD. After a few drifts i was getting onto some good little fish.

I ended up only drifting one spot and managed to get my limit with all the fish between 34 and 37 cm. And i was home by 10 cleaning the boat down.




Posted By: Buzz.
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2011 at 3:02pm
oh, all caught on a single Z-man Paddle tail which will still be sweet to fight another day!


Posted By: hogdog
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2011 at 3:15pm
Nice! I was supposed to hit the water first thing but the wife got a callout to a birth at 1am and wasnt back in time, will have to try in the morning



Posted By: PanicRoom
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2011 at 7:05pm
hey guys,Big smile me and the boys are looking at doing a trip out to HEN AND CHICKS in September, have any of you fished out there before or seen any rite ups on it? any info would be awesome!! just want to get a idea of what we are up against!!!

THANKS HEAPS!! 


Posted By: JayDog
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2011 at 8:06am
Got out the other morning and took 6 snapper on good ol' pillies, kept one of 29cm who had swallowed the hook deep and one of 42cm, all less than 500m off the shore. Roll on summer. 


Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2011 at 9:45am
Nice catch Buzz and Jay Dog! I was going to pop out for a while this morning but wussed out because of the wind warnings. Panic Room, I am keen to hear about your mission, I havent been to the H&C's for ages - but it is a great place.

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Posted By: The cook
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 8:07am
Got out for a fish from Whangaroa on Saturday morning.
Took a while to find the livies, but ended up with a good tank full including some horse blue macs.
 
1st spot just outside the entrance was slow, got a couple of sniffs on the livies but nothing hooked up. 1x40cm keeper amongst a hoard off little ones.
 
Moved across to the arrows in a spot that has been producing well lately. Started very slow but slowly improved, despite the fact we had no burley. For about 1hr just before the change of tide they bit steadily. Funny thing is they would only take pilchards or blue macs, the jack macs were completly untouched.
 
Ended up with 6 fish mostly around the 55cm mark. Pulled the hooks on a few good ones, typical winter soft bite making hooking them that much harder.
 
Livies unmolested apart frm a wee rat Kingfish. came in around 2pm when it absolutely p#ssed down


Posted By: alanimal
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 8:34am
Nice one Cook.
 
We went out Sat morning at 0632, used the ramp setup at Gulf Harbour. I think its mint.
 
Was foggy as - visibility down to 10 meters as we headed out into the gulf. Then it cleared as I headed out further and we met up with some swimming sausages that took the opportunity to have a play with the boat.
 
 
 
 
 
Then we popped out to the back of Tiri and had a few softbait drifts around shearers rock, not even a nibble!!!
 
Saw some boats sitting off the horizon so decided to head out. got about halfway between tiri and corro and dropped the lines - the wind picked up so we ended up drifting super quick. decided to pop back to Tiri again.
 
On the second drift over the rocks my bro caught this rather tasty specimen on a Gulp Lizard.
 
So, 1 fish. Normally we fill the bin but the last 3-4 trips there has been zero or 1 fish to take back. Either its bad luck or we just arent in the right spots!!
 
 


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Posted By: skidder
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 11:08am
Looks like we may need to deploy burley and smelly baits Alanimal.....SB's just not quite doing the bizz lately.

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