New toys....
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Popper and Topwater Fishing
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Printed Date: 06 Jun 2026 at 5:49am
Topic: New toys....
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Subject: New toys....
Date Posted: 11 May 2011 at 10:38am
Just got me some new toys from Gourocks, new colours in the R2C Doggies, in preparation for going to the Sollies in a couple of weeks.... they look very yummy! :-)
 the pic doesn't show it that well, the bottom is a mirror-shiny chrome. The gold one looks very sexy to me, just the colour of a lot of the schools of trevs and buma up in the islands. Should be fun trying them out anyhow! ;-)
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Posted By: JOLLY
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 12:12pm
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How do they go on Kingi's? Has anybody used the other R2C models with much success? - Widegliders & Rovers
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Posted By: Nomis
Date Posted: 18 May 2011 at 9:27pm
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wide glides are ok. not to sure on rovers had kings chase but only caught a big kahawai on the smaller wideglide,
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Posted By: sid fishus
Date Posted: 18 May 2011 at 9:34pm
rovers 
imho
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 18 May 2011 at 10:23pm
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How muchy for thems?
------------- LedgeNZ LBG
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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 12:00am
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Ummmm.... I think... like $25 or so I think. I will be giving them a bit of a bash, along with a few other interesting lures, next week...roll on brother, roll on! :-)
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Posted By: riga
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 9:02am
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I like the doggies, caught plenty of kings on them, they are cheap and work pretty well, don't like the rover either really, either that or I can't use it right.
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Posted By: Bushpig
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 10:28am
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So how are these different from the ones you have posted many times before?
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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 11:10am
New colours.... I thought I had made that apparent. "Just got me some new toys from Gourocks, new colours in the R2C Doggies,"
The gold one looks very nice to my eye (actually they all do), although I suspect that the top one pictured there might be my favourite, don't know why, it just speaks to me.... :-)
The older pics and colours, ummm... let's see if I have an old pic here somewhere....

and, ummm....,

So as you can see, the new colours are... well... new! :-) cheers mate, Stu.
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Posted By: crazyfisho
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 1:11pm
The Doggies do work well with Kings!,
I have got a couple (see below) that I can move for $22 each if anyone is interested?


P/M if interested - these are v/cheap kingi s/baits!
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Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 10:36am
JOLLY wrote:
How do they go on Kingi's?Has anybody used the other R2C models with much success? - Widegliders & Rovers
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Done very well with the R2C's, change the hooks out though if you gear has reasonable drag as they do break the hooks
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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 3:13pm
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Really, trouble with the hooks? That surprises me, they are owners. Still, surface lures are very hard on terminal tackle, so I shouldn't really be surprised I guess.
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Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 3:55pm
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Yeah broken a few of them on the doggies now. the welds sheer off
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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 4:06pm
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Wow, now that is very interesting! I will have to check the hooks more carefully....
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Posted By: JoshW
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 4:13pm
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pretty sure they are owner copies not actual owners
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Posted By: ET487
Date Posted: 30 May 2011 at 11:08pm
Capt Asparagus wrote:
New colours.... I thought I had made that apparent. "Just got me some new toys from Gourocks, new colours in the R2C Doggies,"
The gold one looks very nice to my eye (actually they all do), although I suspect that the top one pictured there might be my favourite, don't know why, it just speaks to me.... :-)
The older pics and colours, ummm... let's see if I have an old pic here somewhere....

and, ummm....,

So as you can see, the new colours are... well... new! :-) cheers mate, Stu.
| i already use them on the islands.I do not have lots of experience with stickbaits but found that this doggies is spinning if retrieving to fast.I slow down and they start to perform but i think that its to slow.The spinning just mailto:p@ssed - p@ssed me off and i change back to poppers.Can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong.
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Posted By: 2cold
Date Posted: 30 May 2011 at 11:41pm
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Are you straight retrieving them or doing a bit of rod work as well?
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Posted By: sid fishus
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 10:46am
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Those are a sinking stickbait. They should run just below the surface (or deeper if you wait a bit), try a rod sweep and then a wind up with the bait under the surface until you feel the waggle.
Will behave like poos, with a fast retrieve across the surface, if that what you are doin.
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 12:38pm
riga wrote:
I like the doggies, caught plenty of kings on them, they are cheap and work pretty well, don't like the rover either really, either that or I can't use it right. |
I have used the rover 230 a lot and they dont work well with your standard "sweep and wind technique" In fact they swim poo like that....I just do short stabs with the rod and they walk the dog very nicely! Try different actions with them...."sweep and wind" is not the only technique for stick baiting! Some have rattles and some dont.Experiment. 
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 12:42pm
Posted By: PoppinTonga
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 7:10pm
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For GTs, I have not had much luck with the Doggies. It could be I am working them wrong. I find that they corkscrew when even moderate speed is put on them. I would be interested in what techniques anyone uses for the Doggie. On the other hand the wideglide and the rover have worked rather well. The wideglide swims really well even at speed. I am going to try mine trolling one of these days. The Rover was a pain in the arse to figure out. I got one for Christmas from my son and figured I had to fish it. I tested it at home and I did not like the way it worked. I took it out one day and tried to use it as a stickbait and saw nothing. Then one time I ripped it in and the lure started chopping at the surface as I bounced the rod tip. It sent a bunch of water flying and got hit for the first time. I have continued this method and have had clients use it and it continues to be real productive. Needless to say, I no longer have that lure, as a tank came and stole it.
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Posted By: ET487
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 9:06pm
2cold wrote:
Are you straight retrieving them or doing a bit of rod work as well? | Just straight retrieving and slow.At modarate speed they corkscrew.I even used two ball bearing swiwels as i used a short piece of steel wire all the time.
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