Separating stuck rod sections
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Topic: Separating stuck rod sections
Posted By: Ahab
Subject: Separating stuck rod sections
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 9:49pm
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Just bought a Kilwell powerplay Surf 200, 3 piece 14ft, second hand on trademe.
Am having trouble with the join between the bottom and middle sections. Is tighter than a camel's aris in a sandstorm, and I've already got it jammed twice. After wresting them apart the first time I massaged candle wax deep into the male end to lube it up. Then I eased it deep in to the hilt and it really got stuck.
I looked on the net and got some ideas involving boiling water, hair dryers and ice, tried these but the two bits stuck together like rooting dogs. I sprayed silicon spray over the join and left it for a bit but no joy. Then I took the butt plug off, caned down CRC and left it upside down for the CRC to gravitate down and work from the inside. This finally broke the rod apart again.
So now I'm wondering how to make them slide easily in and out. I'd guess that I should probably reduce the girth of the male end, probably by shimming it with fine sandpaper. Then I guess keep the join nicely slick with oil or a similarly slippery substance.
Any thoughts?
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Posted By: Gooner
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 9:54pm
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A mate of mine swears by rubbing the male end through your hair before assembling the rod as the natural oils act as a lubricant....have to admit that I've never had trouble seperating rods since this. I'm just worried about my lack of hair! ------------- Jonny Gooner Ooh ta ooh ta be ooh ta be a Gooner!! |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 9:56pm
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well thats an issue-- not really, if put you an ice pack (peas are best)on the top section and use a hair dryer heat up the bottom section and pull apart,also pull off the butt cap on the bottom as this creates suction, this will happen when both sections are wet or when really hot just be careful as the tip section mat split
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Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 9:58pm
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DONT sand anything down.!! Make sure both sections are really clean and just rub the entire inserted section of the male end with a soft graphite pencil. Put the rod together a bit until it starts to feel tight and gently rotate the two pieces around a few times .Remove clean and repeat again and you should be done. Just remember to give the sections a quick rub down with the pencil every now and then. |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:00pm
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should have read the hole post---- may have a split in the ferrel section not a good idea to put silicon on it if and when you get it apart clean it down also use a pencil and rub the lead over the bottom join this helps with sticking-- how old is the rod as Kilwell have a 5 year warranty on them ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:01pm
Don't know about you, but my reducing head hair is fortunately compensated by lush thick growth everywhere else! Should be able to just massage it onto my shoulders to get the same effect!
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Gooner wrote:Posted By: Naki-Fisher
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:02pm
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This may sound strange but i was shown it by and old guy after having the same problem.
Before putting the two pieces together wipe the outside of you nose (between side of nose and cheek) and rub this on the male end. This is normaly done after a bit of a walk so there is a sweat build up down the side of your nose.
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Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:03pm
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Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:07pm
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Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:09pm
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Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:13pm
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I use vasilene works perfectly no issues at all
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Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:20pm
Must Resist From Posting Silly Reply  
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Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:40pm
hehe ky jelly may work aswell 
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Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:41pm
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lollllllllllllllllllll ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 7:55am
put it back on Trademe problem solved  ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: SpidersWeb
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 9:49am
| what I do with mine (although mine is a cheap rod I dont care about) when it jams, is just to use the largest line-guide as a lever and rotate it, once its moved a little it will come apart easily. Been working fine for me for a while now. |
Posted By: jaypeegee
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 9:49am
Oh Dear...
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Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 10:07am
That's my last resort Baz! It's a beautiful rod though, keen to try slidebaiting for kings this weekend.
Might get in touch with Kilwell today.
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Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 10:14am
I've had similar problems with metal fly rod joins jamming, but they seem to respond better to oil and wax than graphite rods.
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Posted By: Aaron32987
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 10:45am
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Kilwell were awesome with a recent rod repair - I was fully prepared to pay the full cost of guides bashed on the rocks, but without even being asked they gave me the guides for free and all I had to pay for was the labour.
Big
 , I know who I'll be buying my next rod from. |
Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 9:41pm
| Pencil graphite worked a treat. Thanks all those who suggested it. Good to hear that Aaron. Am aiming to keep it solely for the beach, but good to know they back it up if something gives out... |
Posted By: Gareth27934
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 9:58pm
| If you put enough liquid and other slippery gunk in the join it will form a vacuum and you'll never get things apart. Dry joints are better. |
Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 10:31pm
| Makes a lot of sense. Thanks. |
Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 11:00pm
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Hate it when that happens generally in my experience it happens with newer rods I have had that with the Penn Surfcasters as I use them almost exclusively for the first 5-6 trips they jam then come right
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Posted By: BeachedAsBro
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 7:57am
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I can't believe how mature everyone is being about this subject after tha first post ------------- Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we can't eat money. |
Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 8:15pm
Just found a handy tip from Sam Mossman in NZFN from May '09. He discovered that a horse grooming glove called a "rubber grooming mitt" helps get a decent grip on the firmly jammed rod.
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Posted By: davethefisho
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2011 at 7:56am
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what I do is take a stanly knife and shave off about .01 or .02 from two places on the male end and use an automotive lube stick from repco or super cheap, never had a proble. did this about 2 years ago and only just thinking about applying the lube again. its great stuff.
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