new rod
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Printed Date: 08 Jun 2026 at 10:37pm
Topic: new rod
Posted By: JoshW
Subject: new rod
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 9:43pm
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after recomendations for a new rod, after something in pe 5-8 range to match to saltist 5000h for now but prob a stella 10000 later, i know i really need a separate popper and stickbait rod but where im at, at the mo storage is limited, I use use poppers 60% of the time and sticks, 40%. so need something that can mange both at a pinch. budget up to to 1 k max i guess. after something that that will mange yft to 50kgs or so. been looking at the shimano caranax. what are they like? zny other other recomendations?
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 6:56am
Try a Hots Gipang 79H Josh 
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Posted By: Elpescador
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 9:03am
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SMITH 80/35p |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 10:03am
| Josh empty your in box,I just wasted 1/2 an hour of my life! |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 10:50am
 yeah got to the stage where I copy stuff then send it to whom ever and get the box is full sign.Josh I have one you can use rated to 80lb and has a very nice action, you can have it for buger all if its any good to you |
falco wrote:Posted By: JoshW
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 11:28am
| bugger sorry falco, done |
Posted By: sid fishus
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 1:17pm
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Under a K you can get the smith 80P/35 or the GTK74 somethingarather. The 80P/35 is a sweet rod, maybe a little stiff for smaller 60gm etc stickbaits though, but good as a stickbait/popper crossover and will take a fair bit of punishment, the GTK is apparently more of a stickbait rod which you need to be more careful about high sticking etc.
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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 2:21pm
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Getting stuff to central america is 50/50 but I would try the east coast american sites for the gtk or the 80p. Los Suenos is probably a bit better than the Mexican or Panamanian ports. Ive got the gtk now and love it but it hasn't been tested on anything super large. sounds like a sick bite in CR right now. Maybe try Tony's builder up in Florida if you can find him the proper blank, we went to the factory in 09 and they put out some pretty rods
Los Suenos is probably a bit better than the Mexican or Panamanian ports. I had a large order disappear when it arrived in mexico and have just had the same problem over here in the Caribbean |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 7:18pm
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Synit TopShot Gulf Of Mexico (GOM) 7ft 10in
Max Drag : 20kg
Lenght: 7ft 10"
New Reel Seat joint method with forgrip attached tip section, greatly reduces the risk of breakages at joint as the hands support the joint during the fight.
It will cast a 100g lure 85mtrs plus and 60g lures out to 70mtrs just ask Nagged
 Under $1000
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Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 8:27pm
| I have a jig rod with the join like that - good work,nice rod. |
Posted By: Jonny rotten
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 9:14pm
how much under a grand.....im after a new rod myself ------------- Rocking the CROCS since 2011 |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 9:26pm
------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: JoshW
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 8:02am
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thanks guys, will look into those suggestions. Hadn't even considered getting anything shipped in mozz, tony going home soon was thinking about getting him to bring something back for me or will just wait till we get to the states.
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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 8:06am
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Graeme, How different is this to the GOM Nev sent me? Was it a carbon blank? Had a nice weave pattern in the blank... Looking at this rod it would be a little lighter (grams)?
The GOM I fondled had a nice feel to it, I loved the thin grips and of course the finishing was ridiculously good...How is the tip on this one Graeme, soft enough for some stick baits?
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Posted By: Nagged
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 5:57pm
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Hi Sam,
The rod I sent you was a prototype at 7'2" using Kevlar. Basically because I have a small surtees I wanted a shorter rod for safety reasons but at the same time it had to cast stick baits (60g-90g) 70mts. It dead lifts 20kg easily without the join failing, this took a bit of time to figure out as shorter rods are generally not good for casting. The newer GOM rods at 7'10" gave me a bit more flexibility with design as I could get the tips to cast a wider range of lures with the extra length.
As Graeme has mentioned even I can cast a 90g lure out past 80mtrs when we were testing them.
Most people will tell you need a rod at 8'4" to cast these distances but we asked people what weight lures they were going to use and what was their target distance. From there we deliberately designed the rod to be as short as possible so it would be easier to fight the fish once hooked.
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 6:53pm
At 7ft 10in it's a long rod for us in terms of where things are heading... but the design of this rod is such that it will fold away in the heat of battle to reduce the hurt on the angler yet still have backbone and lift to handle anything that swims in our waters, Giant Southern Bluefin Tuna being the exception as a shorter rod is required for these beasts ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: ET487
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 10:17pm
| Josh was asking for a rod what can handle both poppers and stick baits.The Synit is a stickbait only correct me if i am wrong. |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 11:17pm
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Graeme / Nev, thanks for that...I will have to put away some pinga's for one of these bad boys JoshW, What style of poppers do you fish? Large GT style or smaller cupped variety's? ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 7:33am
Not wrong it is a stickbait rod. What ever Josh settles on will be a compromise as a Stickbait and Popper rod are two different beasts.
Popper rods are heavier in the tip sections so they can work the larger open faces of the oppers through the water to produce the rooster tail from the concave face, where StickBait rods are as a rule slimmer and lighter in the tips as the lures don't require the same energy to move throught the water to prodcue the swimming action.
That said a heavy rated Stickbait rod will work smaller faced poppers sucessfully ------------- www.synit.co.nz |
Posted By: Nagged
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 7:38am
We have made blanks for Sail fish with very light tips to 8'6" throwing 300g poppers for GT.
You cant make a rod that will do it all, you need to know the size of the fish you are going to target and weight of the lures that you will use the most. Also most guys have a personal preference for length so when you put those three factors together it can be hard finding a rod sitting on a shelf that will fit what you want.
When Kojak was designing Popper rods with me we designed a rod with 3 different tip sections so he got around this exact problem. There is more than one way to get around this it just depends on what the customer wants.
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Posted By: mozz
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 11:01am
Probably easier to get Tony and B to bring it back for ya.......are you allowed to take the boat for a spin while they are gone? I've got a bit of stuff from saltywatertackle.com and the shipping is cheap down to Lauderdale. just get it sent to your ships agent and either fed ex from there or wait till you get back there(you going to lauderdale or up to the viking yard?) thats what I do and its like christmas when you get back to the states unwrapping all the new toys. We just got 3 go pro's and one mysteriously disappeared between the states and here out of the box so be careful. Mexico and Panama were even worse. If you decide on a new rod from nz I will get another rod and go you halfs in shipping if it gets sent to florida
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Posted By: JoshW
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 1:37pm
smaller cupped face through to things like yo-zuri surface bull and river2 sea dumbell kind of things mostly and stickbaits like 100gm nomad dogtooth for example, just been using a tcurve 15-24kg, it manages both fine though casting distance while ok could be better and the rods a **** to fight fish with esp when they go deep.
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Posted By: JoshW
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 1:39pm
| will fire you a pm mozz |
Posted By: LBGer
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2011 at 11:18am
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I have a tenryu spike tuna 8ft 4-8PE rod, max drag 15kg. The nice thing about it is that it weighs a mere 320grams. Great for tossing lures all day. It is a stick bait rod but I can work the large williamson jet poppers without too much trouble, just have to synchronise the jerk & reel retrieve to start the pull and get the water splashing off the cup of the lure.... the tip is a little soft I think but the butt section has the gohannas to handle some heavy pressue....
Having said that I am very interested in the GOM..... ------------- A king on the bricks is worth 5 in a boat. |