parore(help)
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Topic: parore(help)
Posted By: Booooooom!
Subject: parore(help)
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 3:16pm
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i want to know where to catch these boys in the north shore or near the shore!! and i need to know how to catch them(tips)
thanks!!
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Posted By: Tagit
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 3:20pm
| Bread or dough. We used to catch them by the sackload when I was a kid at what is now the ferry terminal area downtown Auck. |
Posted By: STEVIE WONDER
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 3:25pm
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Don't know where you from but saw people at birkenhead wharf catching black snapper if thats the same fish as Parore ------------- ONLY WHEN THE LAST TREE HAS DIED AND THE LAST RIVER BEEN POISONED AND THE LAST FISH BEEN CAUGHT WILL WE REALISE THAT WE CANNOT EAT MONEY. NATIVE AMERICAN CREE |
Posted By: Toad2
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 3:35pm
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Most wharfs will hold them. I usually burley them up with bread, corn and carrot together. Sometimes if they are confident enough they will come up to the surface to eat as well. As tagit said use bread and dough. For bread, float it down to the feeding parore. Or if you can't see them put a small trout hook on and inbed it with bread or dough so the hook point is just out. let it sink naturally and if the line moves odd you have one and strike softly. ORRR if its too deep use a ledger rig with size 1/0 hooks and balls of bread/dough on it, wait for the load to come on and strike. If you feel little nibbles it probably is sprats or spotties so don't bother, you will loose your bait if you strike. Hope this helps, Good luck Toad2
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Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 3:59pm
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bread dough lol sprats will be the parore won't they I alway use little shellfish baits and 2/0 mutsu ledger rigs caught buckets full there everwhere were there rocks or any structure best bait for them is he green seaweed stuff on rocks they cant resist it
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Posted By: Finatic
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 4:02pm
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Saw heaps of them, tails and dorsals out of the water, grazing weed from rockpools on the top of a ledge that was awash at Omaha last weekend. ------------- What's the cheapest type of meat? Dear balls. They're under a buck. |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 8:09pm
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Yep the fine green seaweed is a top bait for them. Can make a nice burley for them with that seaweed mixed with sand.
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Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 9:02pm
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Craig Worthington did an article in NZFN a while ago recommending frozen mixed vegetables as bait. Apparently the spotties and other ooglies leave these baits alone, but the parore love them. The one time I've targetted them with bait I used mussels from the supermarket, and they lost their sht over it. This was at Matiatia wharf at Waiheke, but as Tagit remembers, there are no shortage of them in the main Auckland ferry terminal area.
If you want to eat them, fillet them quickly, or gut them carefully, making sure you don't pierce the stomach, as the iodine in the gut can taint the flesh. The fillets are delicious if treated right.
Funny name, "black snapper", as they're not (a) black, or (b) snapper. I've heard them called "luderick", "blackfish" and "old maid", as well as "shtfish".
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 9:05pm
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whenever i have cooked them they roll up and go tough...especially steaming them....Gave up trying to cook them years ago...is there a special way? ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Doubie
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 9:29pm
I used to catch plenty of them in the estuary at Mangawhai when I was a teen (many years back now  ). Low tide they used to run in the channel and would readily take pipi's I collected there - good fight in shallow water on light gear 
Maybe my memory of taste isn't so good (or my Mum was an even better cook than I remember), but pretty sure they were eaten and just fileted with butter in the pan.... no salt ice or chilibin for me back then
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Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 10:11pm
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Grew up eating them in fish pies as money was scarce absouloutely beautiful use to catch them fillet them beautiful white meat ------------- http://www.facebook.com/groups/hibiscus.coast.fishing/ |
Posted By: makka
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 12:39am
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Ahab wrote:Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 9:08am
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if you check out some of the Aussie forums they have whole sections on how to catch them regarded as a sport fish thier ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: Maydogg
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 9:23am
| Haven't been for a eyar or so - but used to catch them off the little walking bridge on the edge of the big pond at chelsea sugar factory. go into the pond a little and grab some of the fine light green weed off the ground there in the shallow - hard to miss its everywhere. Although certain tyimes of the year had more than others. Wrap it around a small trout hook a few times and put it out under a thin pencil float with a couple of split shots. There is a little angled wall that runs from the pond as an overlfow down to thw sea. First started fishing for them there as one day i was walking around there and noticed them feeding on bits of the wall. would have been 5 or 6 casually feeding - a coupld a good 2-3 pounds! |
Posted By: xsspeed
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 9:49am
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Are they actually good eating? They are a type of drummer? no?
We used to catch them all the time down in Whitianga on the pipi beds by the wharf. Used to use the pipis at your feet, we were targetting other table fish so mostly put the Parore back, (or fed to the animals).
They do put up a reasonable fight on light line. Have some nasty spines IIRC
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Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 10:51am
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[yep, they are called Luderick or Blackfish over here, pipi's and cabbage or ribbon weed are the gun baits. they take lures more often than you would expect too, with vibes being what seems to take them the most[/QUOTE]
Interesting that they take blades, Makka. A mate got a monstrous one on a softie the other day, we thought it was a fluke. Blades are on the point of taking off over here, still a bit new and hard to find in the sports shops.
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Posted By: makka
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 2:47pm
Interesting that they take blades, Makka. A mate got a monstrous one on a softie the other day, we thought it was a fluke. Blades are on the point of taking off over here, still a bit new and hard to find in the sports shops. [/QUOTE]
In certain areas around there they can actually be a pain when fishing for bream, they certainly go well on light gear though!
Blades are great, I have packed a few in my tackle box for my trip to nz (fly out tonight) I have caught heaps of different fish on them, they are great for trout in lakes because they cast so bloody far and the trout love them!
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Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 3:54pm
Blades are great, I have packed a few in my tackle box for my trip to nz (fly out tonight) I have caught heaps of different fish on them, they are great for trout in lakes because they cast so bloody far and the trout love them! [/QUOTE]
Yeah, my brother brought a couple of tiny trout/ bream blades back from Melb over Chrissie. They look amazing, haven't tried them yet. Where are you fishing in NZ, mate? Be sure to post here and let us know how you get on, and if you need any advice there'll be plenty of people here who can help you.
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Posted By: makka
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 4:47pm
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fly into wellington tonight, spending a few days there then up to taranaki for a few days then across to whangamata and back to welly, should be good!
On a side note, the best blades I have found are the TT, Strikepro and Damiki ones
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Posted By: viper
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 3:39pm
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Hi all Does anyone know were to fish for Parore at Milford marnia. I have been there but am not sure were to start. I was thinking on the road side grass bank were the culvet enters or to the left of the bus stop on the last jettie. Any info would be great. PM me if you dont want it up on the site. I am planning to give it a go this sat. Thanks
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Posted By: jaypeegee
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 4:01pm
Bro Link for the Blades Please ------------- "You don't have to be smart to laugh at a fart, but you have to be stupid not to." |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 4:16pm
Just for Jaypeegee http://www.ttlures.com.au/" rel="nofollow - http://www.ttlures.com.au/
------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: jaypeegee
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 4:42pm
Cheers Mr Moto ------------- "You don't have to be smart to laugh at a fart, but you have to be stupid not to." |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 5:25pm
Either of those places. Mark Kitteridge fished the roadisde there with Adam Clancy on one of his shows and didnt do so well but did catch a flounder. Have seen them in there before so worth a shot. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: Highroller
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 8:17pm
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Pipi or mussel bait I have usually caught them while targetting trevs. KL style hooks work good, 4/0 should keep small ones at bay.
I sometimes keep the odd large one, 2Kg+, and have cooked them a variety of ways. As it was mentioned earlier, fillet straight away. obviously gutting them works too, but it is quite time consuming to remove all the black stomach lining which I believe holds some of the iodine & ammonia. I have had some success cooking whole, stuffed with lemon and onion, with herbs and garlic rubbed into scores in the flesh.
This summer i bagged a couple of big ones while freediving, when water viz made it tricky to get a feed. I filleted them immediately, skinned and boned and cut into bite-sized pieces, beer battered and fried- awesome. Everyone who ate it agreed.
I have eaten them serval
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Posted By: viper
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 5:53pm
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Hi all I went to Milford today with my coarse fishing gear & caught 8 good size Parore on light float gear with worm as bait from my worm farm. Boy do the parore fight on light gear. PS i would like to thank John (if he is on here that is)for taking the time to come down & giving me some great advice. Here is to the next time.
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Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 7:03pm
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Well done mate! Yep great fighters on light gear that is for sure
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Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 8:00am
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Good work mate! Another bait you can try is veggie mix from frozen veg bags. Craig Worthington had an article in NZFN a few years ago about it. Means you avoid the spotties and sprats. I've also had success with dough. White bread is supposed to be good too. Sounds like you're onto a winner with worms though.
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Posted By: Wanda_Ra
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 4:27pm
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yes a great fight on light tackle.Caught loads as a kid/teen.Delicious to eat if cleaned asap. Bread brumbs in the water along with the green weed grass they eat brings them around. they will also take pipis and some lures. Biggest one i ever caught was on a chunk of gravy beef left overnight under the panmure bridge marina to hopefully hook a monster eel that i had seen. Inbetween the harbour bridge and herne bay ia a huge area of flats covered in sea grass,anchored up you will catch plagues of parore.. ------------- If you think you are too small to make a difference,try sleeping with a mosquito in your tent. |
Posted By: "Scooter"
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 4:50pm
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Any rocky point around the shore will hold them and they like a little bit of current when feeding. I caught them by the Takapuna boat ramp as a kid,used fresh lawn clippings mixed with sand for burly and the fine green weed as bait,but they also took peas,pipi's,corn kurnnels. Before cooking them,clean the black out of the spine area like you do the red with Kahawai then soak the fillets in milk for a few hours an fry em' up as you would any other fish,,,ok but they ain't gurnard that's for sure. Most of ours would be club trophy pin fish in Oz. |
Posted By: Clemmo
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2012 at 8:39pm
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Hey fellas Had a crack at the Parore at Milford marina. To cut a long story short we did no good. Plenty of Mullet, no Parore though. Has left me with a couple of questions- What depth are the Parore (do they feed on the bottom?), or are they hard onto the wharf structure? Has anybody fished the marina recently? Cheers. ------------- >)))))> www.harbourheatpumps.co.nz <(((((< |
Posted By: Wanda_Ra
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2012 at 9:56pm
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When you say mullet, you mean Sprats ? If you've found a way to reg catch Grey mullet you are set.. At incoming tide right after low tide you will see the parore feeding at the waters edge in huge numbers(well i do at halfmoon bay marina when im up that way). usually on or near the bottom for parore is where i catch them.
------------- If you think you are too small to make a difference,try sleeping with a mosquito in your tent. |
Posted By: ycha223
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2013 at 1:13pm
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Just saw a lady catching heaps of these black snapper (parore) so that made me search for this thread...would like to try catching one myself, I saw her using very small hooks, mussel as bait, just underneath the bayswater wharf and she was pulling one every 10s!! Not big though, only about 15cm average size I'd say. She must have caught about 20 of them I think...along with the spotties and sprats...
The other day I saw a man catching parore with fresh seaweed! don't know how to get them he said he hand picked the seaweed from a nearby beach.
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Posted By: Wanda_Ra
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2013 at 8:46pm
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Look at the steps going down into the water by the ferry terminals,at high tide they are covered by hundreds of young parore.. ------------- If you think you are too small to make a difference,try sleeping with a mosquito in your tent. |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2013 at 9:02pm
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Yuk ..Parore have no taste,even if smoked they are like cardboard,Sharp as bits on them as well,The only thing exciting , they are a real good fighter,after that let them go I say. Or just smoke a card board box,deep fry in batter lol
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Posted By: Wanda_Ra
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2013 at 10:16pm
Respectfully sir.. Bollocks ! gut them immediately after landing and remove the black stomache lining and they taste as good as most other fish. Probably a decent cook makes a big difference huh..  ------------- If you think you are too small to make a difference,try sleeping with a mosquito in your tent. |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2013 at 10:30pm
Everyone for their own as far as food goes ,yes I know about the black stomach lining .Just found them tasteless ,think I will stick to eating sweetbreads instead
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Posted By: ycha223
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 11:58pm
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Posted By: Wanda_Ra
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2013 at 12:18am
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was talking about the main downtown terminal.. Princess wharf ? ------------- If you think you are too small to make a difference,try sleeping with a mosquito in your tent. |
Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2013 at 7:11am
I've found that some parore are great eating, while others are pretty tasteless. One I caught on Waiheke in very clean territory on Sunday was fantastic, while one from the inner harbour was blah. I've always followed the rule about cleaning the gut lining out. Could be the environment you get them from?  |
Posted By: Clemmo
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2013 at 4:17pm
Hey fellas. I am also keen to put myself and my grandparents onto a few parore at Milford as it is too rough to take them on the boat at the minute :( we have been trying there but only had one which bust me off on the jetty. Great fun though. If anybody has some info on spots and tactics to use that work at the marina a pm would be hugely appreciated. Thank you. Tight lines ------------- >)))))> www.harbourheatpumps.co.nz <(((((< |
Posted By: Highroller
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2013 at 7:49am
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I sometimes cook parore when there isn't much else around- have had some very good results. As others have said it is crucial to fillet IMMEDIATELY . I like to skin & bone it and cut into nite sized pieces and do a beer batter. Put a teaspoon of chill and garlic into the beer batter too. Then shallow fry til golden brown and serve will sweet chill & aioli dipping sauces . I have done this for people and not told them what it is- have had people say it was the best fish they've ever eaten. You should see their face when you tell them it's parore!! I either spear them when the goings tough or they are a by catch on pipi bait when I'm targeting trevs |
Posted By: Failbait
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2013 at 11:47pm
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Caught a decent sized one using a piece of squid. |
Posted By: viper
Date Posted: 18 May 2013 at 9:15pm
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Hi all Went out today at Milford Marina for some Parore fishing. Well I had a good catch of 16 Parore from about a 1lb to just under 3lb. All caught on my 13ft coarse rod using 6lb line & size 10 hook. Great fishing with light gear. PS does anyone know were at Gulf Harbour it would be good to catch some Parore??
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Posted By: Doctordr
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2014 at 10:42pm
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I know they're in Gulf Harbour, as they're 'everywhere' around the boats, but fishing isn't allowed in there dammit. Have tried the south facing rocks adjacent to the harbour entrance, but as yet, am still Parore-less up here!
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Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2014 at 10:57pm
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maybe the wharf in the Wade river ? ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: Doctordr
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2014 at 11:01pm
| yep only caught one there..on mussel....Im wondering if I could fish the boat club wharves further up the river? |
Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2014 at 11:54pm
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asking would be the best way to find out.What about on the rock breakwater at gulf harbour ? ------------- The People Protest Actions Speak Louder Than Words |
Posted By: Doctordr
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2014 at 10:05pm
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...yep done the rock breakwater but to no avail...will try using peas/corn next, as the green seaweed/grass or mussel didnt work there for some reason. 100m away in the Marina, there are a tonne of the damn things!
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Posted By: zimbo
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2015 at 6:54pm
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Hi Guys, I'm a very keen specimen hunter, and would love to catch one of these parore, I will be heading down to the milford marina tomorrow morning, early when the roster crows, I have sweet corn and worms for bait. can some one please PM or advise me on the appropriate area to fish for this fish? thanks in advance Craig. 
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Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2015 at 7:25pm
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gren weed on a small troutfly ------------- http://www.facebook.com/groups/hibiscus.coast.fishing/ |
Posted By: zimbo
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2015 at 7:45pm
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Is weed easily found around the marina? Burley I will be using is bread crumb and sweet corn, 4 pound line, small course fishing hooks on a 3lb leader. I will ledger and float fish do u think this tactic will work? |
Posted By: Tagit
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2015 at 8:16pm
| My son catches (and releases) them by the bag full, to the point where they are now his 'nuisance fish' because he wants to catch snapper (yes they will eat squid, bonito baits etc if hungry). Some of the sizes are pretty good and he has been targeting them on 6kg line so they give a reasonable fight. If someone has a young child that is keen to catch one (and pref release it) I can probably help out after school one day or possibly on a weekend day. Shouldn't take more than 15 - 30 minutes most times to get them into a reasonable size one. The public aren't allowed to fish where we are, but I can arrange it to be OK for a child or two. Just PM me if you want to try it and I will help if I can. |
Posted By: zimbo
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2015 at 8:58pm
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Thanks Tagit My son is still a little young to go out fishing with once he is old enough, I hope your offer will still apply, could you help with pointing to a spot that is allowed to be fished at the marina? as I have never been there before. don't want to intrude were i am not supposed to be. |
Posted By: pure--lure
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 8:36pm
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seen plenty of themcaught a pony club ledge very small hook pipi baits ------------- http://www.facebook.com/groups/hibiscus.coast.fishing/ |
Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 11:12pm
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What a bloody generous offer Tagit, awesome thing to do for someones lucky kid. Good stuff. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/user/troutboynz |
Posted By: zimbo
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2015 at 7:16pm
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Hi lb softbaiter Thanks for he info, were is the pony club? I went to Milford marina 2 weeks ago, and caught 5 yellow eye mullet, but., no parore Still trying to catch one, if you could pin point in the direction to go I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks CRAIG |