Bait Batch
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Popper and Topwater Fishing
Forum Description: If you're into a bit of action on top, this is the forum for you
URL: https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63276
Printed Date: 06 Jun 2026 at 5:57am
Topic: Bait Batch
Posted By: marx
Subject: Bait Batch
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 12:26pm
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Well I've just completed a batch of stickbaits that I'm pretty happy with. Definitely my most complete effort so far but there are still quite a few imperfections to smooth out..... all in good time. I've got some pics and a little video of one swimming in the pool. Its pretty difficult to pick them up on video and the pool definitely isn't the best place for testing, there not much room and because there isn't much line out the movement of the baits is somewhat restricted. Good enough for a general idea. Taking them up North next week where I will be giving them a good hammering over a couple of weeks.   Really happy with the tail wraps  The indentations at the front are a personal concept of mine. Gives the baits a nice bubble trail and makes them easier to swim as they are less likely to scatter on the surface.   And finally a little video ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
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Posted By: Uncle
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 12:44pm
Wow! nice job marx
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Posted By: tas-tackle
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 2:21pm
I reckon... nice when you have those sort of skills... top job marx, just need a green and gold for the set 
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Posted By: Cbro
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 4:20pm
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Mint job bro, how much? What timber did you make them out of? |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 4:34pm
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Awesome thanks guys. Not for sale, I'm taking them fishing. They are made out of ceder. The top 4 are of two different designs at 200mm long and 100g. Some mistakes were made in shaping the bottom two blue ones, havn't tested those yet so they might still be okay. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 4:50pm
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Too much Mark, alot of work right there and well finished... What length are they? How did you get on with reproducing the weight for each bait...
Do you use a split body method? just looking at your belly hook hanger and the tail wraps, but can't figure out how the hanger is held in place???
Is the bait in the vid rigged with hooks? Has alot of roll and belly flash, looks good...
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Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 5:44pm
| Can't believe how good they look . Good fishing with them. |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 5:46pm
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Cheers Sam, yeh doing split body.... haven't got a lathe do drill the through wire accurately so I just start of with two lengths of ceder joined together with dowel to keep the two sides matched up throughout the shaping. I router out slots for the through wire. Drill a 10mm hole down the tail section before glueing, once glue is dry I pour the lead for tail weight then figure out much is needed in the belly. Probably makes the job a lot longer but I like the fact that the lure is completely sealed and very strong given its got epoxy running through the middle of it. My tail section by design is very narrow and would probably snap quite easy with traditional construction. I might do a step by step thread with the next lot, was in a bit of a hurry to get these finished. They are 200mm long, might try make them a with less weight next time. Design goal for this lot was to make them swim easily so that they can be used in all conditions but yes they have got hooks on them in the video. They sit a bit lower in the water than my cherry pie, but I can't swim the cherry pie in the pool.
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ReelAppealLures wrote:Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 6:08pm
Very nice Mark...I was wondering what those holes were for...saw them in your other pics. ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 1:45pm
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I just did some more extensive testing at the panmure yacht club and I'm pretty disappointed with them Not that easy to swim and action too lazy for my liking due to, to much tail weight. The action is better with no tail hook but I think those holes at the front is actually making them difficult to swim. Causing to much roll, going to fill them with epoxy and see if that help. Bugger guess you live and learn. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 3:47pm
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Mean bro mean. Very tidy job. Good to see you don't do things by halves, and go the extra mile in your R + D. Keep on keeping on. Look even better hangin' from the gob of a Northland rod bender. Time to get that TPSW screaming with joy. Thought those nice faces in your shapes would have sorted out the body roll. It'll get them flashing any how. Will be good to compare notes i.e. poke and hope vs math and science. Damn, I'm inspired. If only I could find my tools in the neglected Lab, let alone get in the door.
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Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 12:46pm
Sound good bro, heading off tomorrow. Weather ain't looking to hot but.......... well you know whats happens when I want to go fishing  Lures should be fine, was in a bit of a s*&t yesterday. At the end of the day you don't really know what it is exactly a king looks for in a lure action so you just got to put them in the water and find out. The cherry pie has a pretty lazy, rolly action and thats worked out for me all right. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: Nepptune
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 9:23pm
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Mate I've said it before, and I'll say it again, your entire approach to fishing is incredibly impressive, and these lures just prove that again... fantastic work bud, very well done and can't wait to see the report with one of these hanging out of a Kingies mouth, no doubt these lures are gonna get smashed...
Let us know when you willing to put a couple together for a paying customer, I know I'll get in line! ------------- TO RIDE, SHOOT STRAIGHT AND SPEAK THE TRUTH. 
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Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 11:33am
| Mean as Marx...... caught any fish on em yet? |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 5:59pm
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Awesome Marx...those look every bit as good as the others on the market....who knows where this may led for you?....nice! ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: JOLLY
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 7:59pm
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What gauge wire do you use, where do you get it? Where do you get your foils from? Inspirational work Marx, bring on the 'how to' and a display of the spoils!!
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Posted By: tones
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 9:44pm
| made a couple of stickbaits myself recentley wont post any pics not a patch on yours for finish shaped more like orion crazy dog lures as a side note to JOLLY got the rigging wire from mitre10mega 316 1.5mm stainless its in with the nuts and bolt department |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 3:17pm
Cheers mate unfortunately no topwater lures got smashed, not even the cherry pie. I just couldn't find the fish........... No surprises though really the coastline had nets all over it, reefs that normally guarantee boil ups were DEAD! Tried out deep, had bait fish up to 25m but the kings were underneath so it was jigs only. Think I'll do some charters, let the pros find the fish so I can test my lures out proper. Was intent on staying at Bach until I got some decent topwater sessions but a King I jigged up had other ideas. Loading up a video now and will post in reports section, its as painful as it is funny. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 3:28pm
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Cheers for the compliment boys, definitely a lot of effort involved in the process. Wire is 1.5mm 316 welding wire. I just get it from a local stainless steel welder for $1 a 900mm length. Not the easiest stuff to work with as its pretty stiff. Foils are from http://hooptapecanada.com/........ ahhh yep thats right, tape for hoola hoops  can't say its my thing but the tape is good quality, nice range and far cheaper than the stuff you get from fishing shops.------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |