Sticky Business
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Popper and Topwater Fishing
Forum Description: If you're into a bit of action on top, this is the forum for you
URL: https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63072
Printed Date: 07 Jun 2026 at 9:00pm
Topic: Sticky Business
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Subject: Sticky Business
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 6:47pm
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Bit of a change from the poppers,...It is 200mm and will be around 100g when finished, just on the roto now getting a final coat of epoxy...I think I am up to 6-7 coats now...Has been good to get detailed with the finish and away from popper paint jobs. I have left the cheeks/gill plates in a aluminium finish, I am abit unsure of the look but next one I will paint to compare looks...What do you think??
Pic whilst painting-
 Alu cheeks/gills applied and ready for final coat-
 Close up of aluminium finish sides-
 Looking foward to swimming it and sending off for field testing... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
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Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 7:00pm
| Really looks good, amazing detailing . |
Posted By: snapazapa
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 7:02pm
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Nice job!,great detail. ------------- Live life to the fullest... |
Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 7:11pm
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Very cool, well done ------------- www.extremesportfishing.co.nz. Agent for Carpenter, Orion and ASWB products |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 7:24pm
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Thanks fella's, the gill area is hand carved so the bait a 3D quality to it... What do you reckon about leaving the gills aluminium?? I am liking the paint on alloy look.. really pops. Next will be in a Kahawai livery...
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Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 10:00pm
| very very nice.... |
Posted By: chef
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 11:32pm
| mean work man. popers look great too !how do they swimm? any videos would be great to check these out. |
Posted By: YeeHaa
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 11:37pm
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very nice looking, well done
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Posted By: swanie
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 6:32am
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Artworks rather than lures mate. Awesome ------------- "Love the smell of Napalm in the morning" |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 9:02am
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Mint! Superb craftsmanship there RAL, must of been a fair bit of work gone into that puppy. If it swims as good as it looks the kings won't have a chance. How do you find making stickbaits vs poppers? Take longer to make? I'm getting close to finishing 4 of my own, just waiting on some supplies. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 9:23am
| That is top notch Sam,very very nice! well done. |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 11:20am
Working on the video...hopefully I can put something together and get it on here.. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
chef wrote:Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 11:42am
Thanks again guys for the kind words...
Marx, I think the more you make the less mistakes you make, so it gets easier but in saying that it still is abit of work...
The key like you said is if it swims well, alot of time and R&D is put in here so no matter how fancy it looks if it won't swim it is pretty useless... Time will tell.
As for poppers they are a bit quicker because they are concentric shapes easily turned on a lathe...stickbaits definitely are alot more time consuming even more so for a one man band, that explains the price difference on the market for the smaller makers.
Let us know when you finish yours and I am also running low on supplies that why the poppers are for sale, need to place another expensive order in the US, damn freight is a killer! ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 11:51am
Hey Andrew, will wire it up and send it up to you to give it a swim...working 12hr night shifts at the mo, so will get it done when I can...
If all is sweet and no major changes are needed I can knock up a few more and go from there...
Cheers ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: tas-tackle
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 12:20pm
Very nice..... what about a bit of red for the gill plates...?? just thinking 
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Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 12:35pm
Can be done
 , I have often wondered if it makes any difference for the fish...I know they see the action and profile of a lure but the detail???It has a little red under the chin for the angler when the lure is in the water. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 9:44pm
Yep at the moment with my production rate, time charged out at minimum wage and NO profit my lures would cost more than gammas  Yeh will be keeping my paint schemes pretty simple for now until I've got some designs I like and the skills to replicate them. I'm finding replication pretty difficult at the mo, got the feeling its just a matter of doing heaps. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2011 at 8:22am
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Few casts this morning...and it swims! Action is a bit tighter than a gamma but just as erractic...Looks good so far, just needs some feild testing. Watch this space. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2011 at 9:01am
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[/QUOTE] Yep at the moment with my production rate, time charged out at minimum wage and NO profit my lures would cost more than gammas Yeh will be keeping my paint schemes pretty simple for now until I've got some designs I like and the skills to replicate them. I'm finding replication pretty difficult at the mo, got the feeling its just a matter of doing heaps. [/QUOTE] Some makers use duplicators for stick baits, I have thought of making one but need to make time for it...It would definitely speed up the making process...Hell some are just made from polystyrene.
Come up with a way to layout and template the lure, so next one is layed out the same and the templates can be used for shaping, scribble down your measurements also. When I come up with a bullet proof way I will let you know... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2011 at 8:37pm
| Sam, that is looking amazing in my opinion. I saw it on the 360 site too and there are some outstanding lure makers on that site, you are without a doubt as talented as any of the finest lure makers around! |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 7:51am
Thanks Murph  , as you said they are outstanding...Got to get started on my lure to represent for NZ in the Feb/March Lure building challenge, should be good to see what guys from all round the world put together for the challenge... Off to the shed! ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 8:34am
| If that pictured above is anything to go by, you won't be letting the side down. Can you get a deeper green back with black fleck to mirror a kahawai... you know, matching the hatch so to speak? MAybe something larger as well, say 30cm? How about a hinged piper imitation? |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 1:04pm
Most definitely CA, the next to be painted will be in a Kahawai paint scheme... And yes the bait could be made as large as you could cast and successfully fish, at 300mm the weight would come up to balance the lure out, unsure as to what weight that would be without making the lure...
Jointed baits are really classic and I think a piper imitation would be great to build...It will be a busy weekend  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 1:15pm
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If you have any prototype almost-made-its' you want killed by GTs, I am heading back to the Solomons again in May..... just an idle thought ahem ahem..... :-) With the bigger stickbait.... how about a buzzer paddle in the tail perhaps? |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 4:00pm
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Awesome. Looking super nice there RAL, sex on a stick. What fish wouldn't want to chomp that. How do you get those sexy scale patterns happening? How did you end up weighting it?
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Posted By: Mr Plastic
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 8:18pm
Itd be good if you could make a 300mm bait at 130-150gm your lures look really good and the detail is nice. I guess its a hard road to make money from this unless you charge like a wounded carpenter! Its a wicked feeling making a lure like this and then seeing it get smashed, theres your satisfaction right there.. ------------- Synit Prototype bender |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 9:29pm
Couldn't help myself...I hand carved the head and turned the two body pieces... 350mm long and 115g with out hooks / splits    I need to swim it and see how she goes.... I have a few kahawai styles in the mix but time is tight but will get there some day ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 9:32pm
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Awesome! If you made that piper looking,it would be deadly on kings i reckon ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 9:38pm
Took this lure for a swim today....   Swam well enough for the kingy's to bite and trolls at 5-6 knots also  Needs to cast better although it was O.K.Lost the lure to a small kingy after being to lazy to 1. Use trace armour/thimble/hollow on my knot ( ag Chain knot ) 2. Check the knot after lots of C&R of 4-10kg fish, and some trolling tests. The knot wore through at the eye ( 60lb supple ) on the light setup... Nev if you read this, can you I.D a blank for me... I have what I am sure is a kilwell I need to I.D. Cheers ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 10:15pm
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That jointed one looks very interesting! Like the finish on that bottom one too.... man, you do very very good work! |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 10:37pm
Thats what I am thinking too maybe if I put a silver hologram finish on the sides along with a little black detail along the back bone to try and mimic a piper it could well be deadly....It is so hard to replicate nature e.g. fish patterns etc. Something to work on tho.  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 10:46pm
Thanks CA, the jointed one has a real US look to it... You don't see much of this style in the saltwater scene more so in the fresh water bass or even the striper plug style ( sand eel imitations )... I am picking it will cast well as weight is in the rear two body sections, will be quite a handful with three trebles and a angry fish tho As for the bottom lure, it was nice to have a lure the swam off the rod tip and also trolled if need be...as for the finish I am getting there still a long way off but I got a long time! Would be nice to get to or pass the "japanese" finish.------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2011 at 3:07pm
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Few more baits and poppers from my latest work - Pilchard and Kahawai- 200mm/100g   New shape popper - 200mm 85-90g Mahimahi-  Nev has the only prototype I have made so far which was made for a proto rod...This has one minor change, added a recessed grommet to protect the lure at the swivel.    A few small poppers made for F.Net members- 130mm 95g Electric blue...Great colour that shifts with light and angle.  Koheru-  Kahawai-  Still need more testing before I can nail down a solid stick bait design...But things are ticking along. The kahawai stickbait is currently get a finish coat of epoxy and the mahimahi popper has been coated and really "pops"... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2011 at 3:26pm
| Those top ones there, man, I would love to hve a couple of them.... and there is nothing wrong with the finish, they look perfectly japanesable to me! |
Posted By: unlimited
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2011 at 4:23pm
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there are some very impresive baits there Sam, very nice work ------------- keeping it reel |
Posted By: Red Hunter
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 9:15am
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Ar Ha , No hiding , I will be keeping my eye on you Red Hunter . |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 4:11pm
Welcome aboard Red Now we can talk about getting you some of those little poppers to try out on your resident GT's...When are you going to Jewel? No there is no rod building section/forum on F.net...but there is however some great rod builders, trolling through posts will bring up some of their work, probably more Soft plastic rod builders than you are used to but nice work all the same... Mods, any chance of a rod building section? Guys and gals could display their work and even include simple tips like replacing tips, guides etc... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: 2cold
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 4:24pm
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Posted By: Boulder
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 4:40pm
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well guys Grunta and I have just had a chat and have resolved to test this subject here with a pinned thread http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/topic64690_post922889.html#922889 If traffic builds we will take the next step and make it into a seperate forum. See we do watch and listen ------------- http://www.boulderguiding.co.nz">  http://www.boulderguiding.co.nz">www.boulderguiding.co.nz |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 4:53pm
I had no doubt you watched and listened Thanks for that  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |